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Lei_Kuei
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posted January 27, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Pixie is no bully.

ETA:

It'd be nice if Randall asked you to back up that allegation with some proof, rather than allowing Pixie to be slandered.

You say she makes a habit out of targeting new members and roughing them up? Tell everyone where you saw that happening.

I'll bet you can't come up with a single example.


^^^Hear! Hear!

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posted January 27, 2014 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
She did it to Dee on LL2 and I stepped in because I saw it.

Dee isn't new, Ami. She's a mod with almost 3,000 posts. And no offense to her, but her reaction to a very mild comment from PJ shocked me.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/004536.html

Maybe some people don't like PJ's style, but to me, "bullying" is an extreme term for extreme behavior, and should be reserved for situations where it actually applies, not tossed out lightly.

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posted January 27, 2014 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
^^^Hear! Hear!

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juniperb
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posted January 27, 2014 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have known PixiJane for far longer than many on the forum. I have watched her mature ,gain experience and become a Mod.

She is a forthright poster not a chatty cathy [like me at times].

If someone posts something of substance and she has an opinion on it, she shares it as we all do . She will ask for clarification and dig for it. No claims of beliefs as truth flies with her.

Is she brusque and outspoken at times ?
Is she also sharing, informative and fun to have around?

I think all the above is a solid yes.

Like Charmaine, I too have thought she was snarky to me a time or two but I`m not perfect and I certainly don`t expect her to be either.

At the end of the day, it`s nothing but perspective anyhow.

Anyone here who claims they are happy dappy all the time and it don`t affect your posting is fibbing.

To construe her as a bully, by it`s true definition, is misleading and uncalled for here.

And I have been around here as has Pixie longer than the "claimed" six years .

It is time a little wisdom is used here.

If yon`t like her, don`t engage but for goodness sakes, don`t call her out as a bully and trounce her with emotional outbursts.

Sorry Odette is this gets closed now

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posted January 27, 2014 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone's opinion is valid. Randall has it right about closing threads when there are outright nasty insults, not discussions which this thread is.

I really don't want to dump on Pixie, even though it may look otherwise but if ONE newcomer leaves due to her bullying, I think it is worth bringing this out. That is my opinion.

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posted January 27, 2014 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I made my point and by her silence she agreed.

A bold unqualified statement. There is NO tacit understanding here and her absense can mean many many different things.

One for certain is she doesn`t have a darn thing to prove by replying .The accusser has to provide proof.

Many have left Lindaland and it wasn`t due to PixieJane .

Newbies or oldies but goodies, none deserve bullying so mind the store and keep ones self above reproach.

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posted January 27, 2014 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so mind the store and keep ones self above reproach.


Juni, try to be civil as Randall asked you and I to be to each other, please.

You don't have to give me one of your hidden insults. I know that you wait with bated breath for me to screw up, so you can jump on me.

One day, I am sure I will screw up and you will be right there to point it out lol

However, until the time comes, give it a rest, please. If you don't, I will have to close the thread.

Everyone has been good, so far. Please, try to keep that record up, Juni.

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posted January 27, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are right though, Juni, that Pixie not coming on does not mean she agrees. I stand corrected there. Thanks for pointing it out.

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posted January 27, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's move on from Juni and me. No one wants to go there

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Randall
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posted January 27, 2014 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want my Mods going at each other; nor do I want any one being singled out. It is not acceptable to call out a Mod in public. If I see a problem, I will handle it myself. Dee reacted, because it is a sensitive topic with her. We all have our hot buttons. I'm happy with Pixie. And thank you, Pixie, for avoiding the fray.

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posted January 27, 2014 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one can be happy all the time. Mods are human. I will leave this open, but everyone move on from this tone of discussion.

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Odette
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posted January 27, 2014 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the record, the only issue I brought up with Pixie is re: gender-based generalisations.. primarily because these generalisations are often made on a very negative/pessimistic tone.
I don't want to elaborate on that. What I see as generalisations - Pixie sees as merely expressing her opinion.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding Pixie & others, (who I also feel go overboard on the generalisations) or perhaps I have a point. Some would share my personal impression and others would not.

In any event I have never felt bullied by Pixie, nor have I seen her bully other knowflakes.

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Ami Anne
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posted January 27, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I felt like Pixie attacked me by saying I always close her threads, so I gave my opinion but Randall told us we should do this in private and I will from now on.

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posted January 27, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
For the record, the only issue I brought up with Pixie is re: gender-based generalisations.. primarily because these generalisations are often made on a very negative/pessimistic tone.
I don't want to elaborate on that. What I see as generalisations - Pixie sees as merely expressing her opinion.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding Pixie & others, (who I also feel go overboard on the generalisations) or perhaps I have a point. Some would share my personal impression and others would not.

In any event I have never felt bullied by Pixie, nor have I seen her bully other knowflakes.


I know you didn`t Odette. You made the intent clear and no bullying was implied.

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posted January 27, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami is quick to close them but I'd be surprised if she passed up the chance to slam me before she did.

For the record

This is what I responded to. Pixie should not have insulted me in public and I should not have given my opinion in public.

Randall told us how to act in the future and so we will do that from now on.


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posted January 27, 2014 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Different styles can be misinterpreted. I am on board with specific instances being not3d but I consider it bad voodoo for anyone to go around the board stating that "so and so is a bully" espevially since this opinion is often reciprocal...ie the person you think is a bully likely thinks you are one. there is far too much defamation of character here and often behind the accused's back.

I find Pixie's style blunt at times but I wouldn't call her A BULLY that is an opinion. Stick to addressing actual behaviour and not labelling people and you may achieve more understanding on both sides, as we saw in Asteroid astro this past couple of days.

As to emailing mods...going to teacher...not everyone's style. Perhaps mods who don't have time should simply not spread themselves too thin?

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posted January 27, 2014 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stick to addressing actual behaviour and not labelling people and you may achieve more understanding on both sides, as we saw in Asteroid astro this past couple of days.

Yes, very true. The Asteroid is getting a beautiful vibe because we are all working together to make it a nice place for everyone.

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posted January 27, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bottom line, everyone is a work in progress. Randall allows everyone to try to be the best they can be on here and, more importantly, perhaps, to fail.

He has the heart of a true mentor, wanting to see people be all they can be.

I think that is a big part of why the vibe at LL is so special and why we all love it so much.

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posted January 27, 2014 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I don't want my Mods going at each other; nor do I want any one being singled out. It is not acceptable to call out a Mod in public. If I see a problem, I will handle it myself. Dee reacted, because it is a sensitive topic with her. We all have our hot buttons. I'm happy with Pixie. And thank you, Pixie, for avoiding the fray.

You're welcome.

And my silence does not imply agreement. I almost replied but decided it would do no good and decided to let the fires cool instead of fanning the flames by responding in kind.

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posted January 27, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charmainec:
Pixie, I don't know about you "bullying" newbies and all that so I will just speak for myself. You were not so nice with me either in the past and for no apparent reason. It bothered me because we very rarely engage with each other here. What did you do? Snarky remarks at posts I posted at.
I also mentioned this last year in a thread I'll have to dig up because you were genuinely nice and it came as a huge surprise. You didn't reply so I assumed you never saw it.

I'm not saying you are mean. Maybe I don't understand you when it's just your way of communicating. I've seen you offer lots of constructive advice and being kind to various members here so I took it that you just find me annoying or something. :/


I'm sorry you felt that way. You should point it out the next time you feel like I'm being mean to you...but please consider that maybe I'm not meaning it the way you think. I've observed that many on the net, and even more at LL, automatically assume the "worst tone of voice and intent" which can drastically alter a message so it seems completely different, and not just a tongue in cheek comment being taken badly or someone wrongly assuming a response was about them but more than once people thought I was judging them harshly (and lashing out at me for it) because I asked questions out of pure curiosity. I've had people flame me for COMPLIMENTING them because they automatically assumed sarcasm. And it's not just me, I see a lot of flame wars on LL because people assume the worst about the intent of what someone posted and then the person responds in kind and they blame each other for starting it and I can see how they both believe themselves attacked for no reason because of wrong assumptions about intent (which didn't even occur to the other person and sometimes amazed me that something innocent was taken so wrongly--and it happens a lot).

That's not to say I don't have bad days and hot button issues or that I always turn the other cheek, but the times I actually get fed up and lash out are rare (I usually don't let myself online when I realize I'm in a foul mood). And sometimes I tease a bit, which I mean in a nice way, but I usually stop myself from even that because I've learned people online often react poorly to it (I mean if they think I'm being mean when I'm being neutral or even NICE then you know even good natured teasing isn't going to go over well).

You are correct I never saw a reply saying you were surprised I was nice to you because I definitely would've responded.

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posted January 27, 2014 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

Btw, some may have noticed I almost never reply in birthday threads. I have a strict policy against that though given that this is an astrology board and I spend more time on this board than I usually have on other boards in the past (so I'm less likely to miss birthday threads) I've been reconsidering.

The reason is because on previous boards (many of which weren't as hypervigilant against personal attacks as LL) I'd get people upset with me because I wished someone a happy birthday but not someone else (usually because I didn't see it), or try and be civil to someone I normally don't get along with and they blast me for being on their birthday thread. After awhile I decided there was already enough drama on the net (and real life) to not step into anymore minefields so I wasn't replying to anymore birthday threads on the internet, and I've continued to do that at LL (where it seems people are even more alert than usual to possible personal attacks), though again I have been reconsidering my personal policy on that.

But happy birthday all.

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posted January 27, 2014 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, people really got upset about birthday nonwishes?

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posted January 27, 2014 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As in real life, some people take such things very seriously. I rarely go on them unless it's someone i know and even then LLC2 is not my most frequented forum so I miss a lot. It's not a popularity contest as far as I can see and I haven't noticed Emily Post here !

It's nice to recognize everyone but if it were expected for everyone or even all mods to chime in there would be no "personal" to it, would there?

As to people leaving because they felt shy or put upon, it's not only newbies but many oldies who habe done that and it's their choice...personally i have seen people come and go and come back again...including myself, and I have also seen members here teasing people for coming back which I actually consider far ruder than someone being blunt - even overly so - causing someone to retreat.

No one gets along with everybody, most people understand that...don't they?

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posted January 27, 2014 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, people really got upset about birthday nonwishes?

Yeah. In some cases they thought they must've offended me somehow that I snubbed them, after all I posted in someone else's birthday thread, why not theirs? But the very last time, and the time I resolved to never post in a birthday thread again, was when it was assumed I did indeed snub her and thinking myself too good for her when I was shocked by that, I hadn't even realized the thread was up, nor did I have any grudge against her. 'Course after she sent that tirade to me in a private message I sure didn't bother to post anything in her thread and did start snubbing her after that when I hadn't before.

Btw, I wanted to let people know I appreciate their standing up for me.

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posted January 29, 2014 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I've annoyed Pixie before and she doesnt care for me much (a vibe i've gotten a few times) but i also consider her writing style (& that i can be annoying here sometimes ).......she's not all hearts and fluff and goo-goo gah-gah, lovey dovey and i actually appreciate that about people in general.

I would never think to consider her a "bully". You'd have to be really hypersensitive and reading into tones that arent there to do so. Funnily enough, i have been called and accused of the same - & worse! by THE SAME people (person?) here. Then i watch as they pull the same on others, calling them "mean" like a 2 year old would and thinking they are shaming them and giving newbies the wrong impression of the accused.

Lately when i come here i read and get a bad, sick feeling in my stomach after reading the same insanity from certain people. It takes a lot to disturb me, but this entire forum has become like an insane asylum and it makes me nervous......heightens my anxiety.

We never had to walk on eggshells like this before. It used to be loving and supportive.

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