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CatMote
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posted March 09, 2014 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont think there is a "should" for confidence. i think confidence varies from person to person. i think true confidence is when you can just be yourself and not give a **** . its that simple. if you wait for things to come to you, you can still be confident. confident isnt an act, its a state of mind and comfort in knowing in and believing in who you are.

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Scorpiocat
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posted March 10, 2014 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpiocat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't find short men physically attractive, no matter how handsome they are.

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7thGuardian
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posted March 10, 2014 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sibyl:
Good post, 7thGuardian. :-)

I guess I'm one of those over-confident people you mention. I do constantly endanger myself (it's fun and always works out, so why not). Does that make me less feminine in your estimation?


I don't know what you mean by that - exactly, though i guess - that makes you the YOLO type.


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7thGuardian
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posted March 10, 2014 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Well since you are pulling out the urban dictionary to insult me why don't you look up the definition of confidence? Because Confidence has zero to do with character or the law of attraction crap. Confidence is: a strong feeling that you will succeed based off of past successes. Confidence is a context thing, you may feel more confident in some areas than others. It is not an all pervasive mental state that attracts things or people to you! Also it seems to me that some of you are confusing confidence with courage. A guy can have courage but lack confidence or have confidence and lack courage, they are not the same thing! Personally I pride myself on being courageous and think confident guys are usually worthless.

I didn't mention anyone while relating to crybabies - if you identified yourself based on above descriptions - you insult yourself by behaving in such ways. To be honest - i try to avoid you, it's what i consider - the wise thing to do. I'm here for almost 2 years and in all that time - i quoted you 2 or 3 times - which turned-up to be a mistake on my part - a clear waste of time. Was kinda stupid of me - since i already witnessed the way you behave with others (so - i should have known better), as in: you rarely show any understanding for what people are saying (you ignore most of what they write - and focus only on you want to see) - even if they give you undeniable facts as examples. You read between lines and - you keep getting stuck on a line, though - you like to argue for the sake of arguing. You only indulge those who agree with the things you say or pity you and... I'm not into that (i show pity only to homeless people - and not with words but with some cloths or something to eat). I've checked others people with aspergers and I'm aware that part of your attitude is related to you mental disorder - but insulting others cause they don't agree with your point of view (or pity you) and the degrading things you say about women (not to mention the hate you display for the opposite sex) - insulting things not just to women - but also to other men (since you made a habit in talking in the name of men - as if someone who acts like you could be representative for what it means to be a man - which is kinda insulting) - that's all you.

Here's a guy with aspergers who displays somehow similar issues in terms of relationship - though, he understands the importance of being self-confident (check minute 3): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E-V7gL6rUk His entire channel is dedicated to aspergers: http://www.youtube.com/user/InjuredMinds

Most people on this planet have a average or below average income - and same goes for their looks by fashion/modeling standards - and most of them have a relationship. That's a fact. Which proves that - you don't need to be rich or to look like a model to be in a relationship. Now... i don't know how many of those lack confidence - but being suffocating in a relationship cause of a lack of self-confidence (very insecure with low self esteem) - that's clearly a bad omen from this point of view - if we're to talk about a "healthy relationship".

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/confidence


1.full trust; belief in the powers, trustworthiness, or reliability of a person or thing: We have every confidence in their ability to succeed.

2.belief in oneself and one's powers or abilities; self-confidence; self-reliance; assurance: His lack of confidence defeated him.

Now check this guy again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9i6calKZwk (Sean Stephenson)

Next time when you quote someone - make sure you understand what they're talking about or - the things you might add while reading between lines - could make you look like a fool. Maybe - in this case, this could work in your favor - since your mentality when it comes to confidence ("...and think confident guys are usually worthless") - it's your biggest issue. If/when you change this mentality - your life will change considerably in a positive direction. And I'll stop here, as - there's no point in wasting anymore time on this - trying to convince someone who reads between lines. Though, you should talk about it (about the importance of Confidence) with someone you trust - like your therapist - if you have any interest in getting better.


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PixieJane
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posted March 10, 2014 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like confidence, but I can handle some mild insecurity (heck, my BFF is mousy and I'm protective over her as a result, even consider her something of a soul mate, but she's not neurotic about it), and even a lot of shyness. What I can't stand is FAKED confidence, it just grates on my nerves and I wonder if they're fooling themselves or think they're fooling others (I suppose they fool some). I'm fine with say Xander or Tara on Buffy (neither were that confident), and Giles and Cordelia (genuine confidence) were also good, but the girls who need each other to feel secure and constantly looking for someone to be better than or the guys with wide walks or chest puffed out yet also with strained voices, peery eyes, and inability to handle any setbacks (causing their fragile or false confidence to crumble) showing their insecurities just rub me the wrong way.

Oooh, like the 2nd archer here with the long, curly hair, can't stand that sort of fragile confidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfDyiCY57eo

Btw, I consider Merida there the archetypal Sag (quick thinking philosophy, blunt honesty, always believing there's a way, love of freedom and physical play, and being such a good archer is a nice touch) and her mother the archetypal Virgo mother, and father the archetypal Aries father (throughout the movie, not just this scene).

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aquaguy91
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posted March 10, 2014 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
I didn't mention anyone while relating to crybabies - if you identified yourself based on above descriptions - you insult yourself by behaving in such ways. To be honest - i try to avoid you, it's what i consider - the wise thing to do. I'm here for almost 2 years and in all that time - i quoted you 2 or 3 times - which turned-up to be a mistake on my part - a clear waste of time. Was kinda stupid of me - since i already witnessed the way you behave with others (so - i should have known better), as in: you rarely show any understanding for what people are saying (you ignore most of what they write - and focus only on you want to see) - even if they give you undeniable facts as examples. You read between lines and - you keep getting stuck on a line, though - you like to argue for the sake of arguing. You only indulge those who agree with the things you say or pity you and... I'm not into that (i show pity only to homeless people - and not with words but with some cloths or something to eat). I've checked others people with aspergers and I'm aware that part of your attitude is related to you mental disorder - but insulting others cause they don't agree with your point of view (or pity you) and the degrading things you say about women (not to mention the hate you display for the opposite sex) - insulting things not just to women - but also to other men (since you made a habit in talking in the name of men - as if someone who acts like you could be representative for what it means to be a man - which is kinda insulting) - that's all you.

Here's a guy with aspergers who displays somehow similar issues in terms of relationship - though, he understands the importance of being self-confident (check minute 3): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E-V7gL6rUk His entire channel is dedicated to aspergers: http://www.youtube.com/user/InjuredMinds

Most people on this planet have a average or below average income - and same goes for their looks by fashion/modeling standards - and most of them have a relationship. That's a fact. Which proves that - you don't need to be rich or to look like a model to be in a relationship. Now... i don't know how many of those lack confidence - but being suffocating in a relationship cause of a lack of self-confidence (very insecure with low self esteem) - that's clearly a bad omen from this point of view - if we're to talk about a "healthy relationship".

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/confidence


1.full trust; belief in the powers, trustworthiness, or reliability of a person or thing: We have every confidence in their ability to succeed.

2.belief in oneself and one's powers or abilities; self-confidence; self-reliance; assurance: His lack of confidence defeated him.

Now check this guy again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9i6calKZwk (Sean Stephenson)

Next time when you quote someone - make sure you understand what they're talking about or - the things you might add while reading between lines - could make you look like a fool. Maybe - in this case, this could work in your favor - since your mentality when it comes to confidence ("...and think confident guys are usually worthless") - it's your biggest issue. If/when you change this mentality - your life will change considerably in a positive direction. And I'll stop here, as - there's no point in wasting anymore time on this - trying to convince someone who reads between lines. Though, you should talk about it (about the importance of Confidence) with someone you trust - like your therapist - if you have any interest in getting better.



You were trying to be a wiseass by posting that and you know it and now you are backtracking because I called you on it. What undeniable facts are you talking about? Lmao

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aquaguy91
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posted March 11, 2014 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not have a problem with the concept in and of itself.. I have a problem with the fact that people act as if it attracts partners to you, it doesn't. Also like I have said before confidence is a context thing... Everyone is confident in certain areas and are unsure of themselves in other areas... Saying someone is confident or unconfident is not really accurate because again confidence is a context thing... I said confident guys are worthless because most people mistake confidence for arrogance.... I really hate arrogance...

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