posted February 28, 2014 11:00 PM            

Men are also generally allowed to be more hostile and aggressive whereas females generally aren't supposed to be, so the fighting has to be sneakier which can make it even more infuriating and dragged out (with extra strong doses of hypocrisy since they can't admit what they're doing) than when males engage in it but at the same time there's more potential for unintentional hilarity.

posted February 28, 2014 11:14 PM            

That is an allusion to the Greek Stage, the Hippocrite, was a mask a stage actor wore to id them as a "hypocrites"

"Hypocrisy is derived from the Greek word hypokrisis, which meant playing a part on the stage, or putting on a mask to misrepresent reality. In the ancient Greek theater, actors were known as hypocrites, without any negative connotation. In the real world however, being a hypocrite, pretending to be something while actually being something else, was and is definitely viewed as wrong"

Pity really, thought there was a great discussion to be had.

As to more to your point BG, keep in mind, like it or not, there is a dichotomy in society, the cluck clucking is an instrument of social control

Whether it is a positive one, or a negative one, is up in the air.

I really dislike a restraint on the free exchange of ideas./

posted February 28, 2014 11:28 PM            

For example if someone has made a habit out of lying all the time, especially about minor details, they truly may not understand why anyone would take issue with that. To them it is no big deal, just another white lie, one of thousands, so who cares. Their whole attitude towards the concept of "truth" is just very lax. And this frees their conscience up, to lecture other people about being good (and honest!) and doing right.

Really they probably just mean, "Treat ME right" and nothing more. And maybe that happens more with women because we feel weaker than men and want to be protected...so we encourage other people to be morally upstanding (translated: "back off") and maybe even religious ("back off or you're going to hell.")

It all boils down to primal instincts, couched in the language of "righteousness," I think.

posted February 28, 2014 11:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
^^ Ha ha. I caught that edit.

The Lurker is always lurking.

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posted February 28, 2014 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I just feared that one of the other definitions would be brought up, especially as it's the tendency of people on this site to imagine the worst possible interpretation of anything said. I wasn't trying to say he was being stupid when I said "obtuse" but rather unclear (perhaps obfuscatory was the word I wanted anyway).

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posted February 28, 2014 11:41 PM            

I don't find that women are more prone to hypocrisy than men.
All of us can remain unaware of our faults until we're ready to face them, regardless of gender (imo).

Sometimes, for example, I'll be completely unaware of my asinine behavior until I have to be around someone else who does the same thing I do, and then I'm like "Oh my God...THIS is how I'm acting?! Holy crap, I gotta do something about that."
Like a look in the mirror on a really bad day.

Personally, I dislike being hypocritical. It's actually a pet peeve for me (probably the Virgo Moon, wanting to be impeccable or something).

I think that sometimes, people are simply incapable of seeing their own flaws, or refuse to do so on some deeper level.

posted March 01, 2014 12:01 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
^^

You're being unclear again.

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No surprise, not in a bad way PJ.

My sort of inflamed righteousness compass is wayward and senseless ( Tolkein quote alert)

What I was aiming for, and it causes controversy vis a vis hypocrisy on a Societal level is "men studs, women ***** "

Which is one of what I'd consider the core Hypocrisies of the West.

posted March 01, 2014 01:36 AM            

I actually joined LL a looooong time ago, about 10 yrs.. I've gone through something like five or six nicknames - although at one point I was on an LL break for about a year or longer and then came back.

Faith you mentioned - AG (Acoustic God) .. I was 17/18 when AG joined LL and I went off at him on three different threads about a tiny, mildly offensive comment he made re: Aries people lol
Looking back - I was soooo childish. It's strange to see my old posts. I feel embarrassed sometimes

My first ever nickname was "aries-chick". This is my first thread, but I deleted my posts: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001385.html

Ironically I was complaining about Leo men ... lol... Someone mentioned young fire signs not always working out. In retrospect that was true.. because I now get along really well with the Leos in my life.

Anyway --- long story cut short... I've seen a lot of ups and downs on LL. We've had a lot of interesting threads, discussions and sometimes arguments.. throughout the years, and it's been fun!

At one point I got closer to a bunch of knowflakes (chatting outside LL etc.. ). I know that sometimes when you do get closer outside the forum.. you end up knowing people on a deeper level.. and you see things you might like about those people - and other things you might not like.
But that's just human nature.. I think that happens a lot in life, with everyone. No one is perfect.

I think each person has their life story and they have their joys and sorrows.
I know that sometimes we get frustrated with others.. I often feel like my tolerance level is too low. I made a thread about it in Sweet Peas recently, if you guys recall.

I completely understand the feeling of being *frustrated* when someone is maybe behaving in a way you find upsetting or reproachable... or hypocritical (or whatever negative 'banner' you believe applies) - and often the person we feel frustrated with might also feel upset with 'us', in return.

At the end of the day .. I've decided to stop judging people and try to focus on their good points.. because most everyone has them!

I don't want to specifically make this about Ami.. because my comments here are more 'general'.. But since you all ended up discussing Ami on the other thread (and since you are hinting at Ami again in the OP)... I'll say that I believe Ami is a very intuitive person, she is intelligent, emotionally attuned, and she has a lot of positive qualities. I really like reading her contributions to LL and I always find what she has to say interesting.

This ^ is what I see as the positive side to Ami.
She is definitely not a person who is 'lacking' a positive side.

Like every other human... she does not *only* have a positive side... But I am ok with that, because I think it is a part of life to *learn* to be ok with such things.

If you find someone or something more upsetting/annoying/unnerving - than others find that someone or something... then you should probably be a bit more detached and not engage at all.
There's room for everyone on LL.. because there are so many people here with varied personalities.. and we don't all have to be best friends or interact or get 'close'.

Basically, if you feel like you can't 'see the best' in an individual.. and they are annoying you - then disengage.. don't attack them... because if the person feels attacked - they will defend themselves or attack you right back - and it will simply perpetuate more unnecessary drama.

My advice is... don't bait - and don't allow yourself to get baited.. Simply move on to topics/threads you enjoy and talk to people you like talking to..

posted March 01, 2014 01:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
No surprise, not in a bad way PJ.

My sort of inflamed righteousness compass is wayward and senseless ( Tolkein quote alert)

What I was aiming for, and it causes controversy vis a vis hypocrisy on a Societal level is "men studs, women ***** "

Which is one of what I'd consider the core Hypocrisies of the West.

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posted March 01, 2014 02:49 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Because a man who can get sex and has access to lots of women has status (looks, money, or power or all 3). A woman who can have lots of sex is merely existing. Thats not to say that a woman who is having sex doesnt have those things, but it isn't required for her like it is for men. I was listening to Howard Stern one night and he was interviewing John Cena, one of the biggest wrestlers in the WWE. The guy is good looking ,rich,and famous and admitted to sleeping with tons of groupies. He specifically mentioned sleeping with a morbidly obese woman who offered him sex... Now let me ask you this.... Do you think a morbidly obese man could have a chance with a hot female celebrity? Hell no!!!! She would probably have him arrested or at the very least thrown out of the venue if he had the audacity to proposition her. This is the reason why men who get sex are viewed as studs and admired, because if a guy can bang attractive women he has something going for him... If a woman is having sex with attractive men it doesnt mean a whole lot.

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posted March 01, 2014 03:04 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
What's your deal with sex? You constantly bring it up.

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posted March 01, 2014 03:30 AM            

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t isnt fair that women can get sex whenever she wants.

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posted March 01, 2014 03:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Ridicu-lash.

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posted March 01, 2014 07:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I wasn't sure whether to post this or not... but I guess I shall..

I actually joined LL a looooong time ago, about 10 yrs.. I've gone through something like five or six nicknames - although at one point I was on an LL break for about a year or longer and then came back.

Faith you mentioned - AG (Acoustic God) .. I was 17/18 when AG joined LL and I went off at him on three different threads about a tiny, mildly offensive comment he made re: Aries people lol
Looking back - I was soooo childish. It's strange to see my old posts. I feel embarrassed sometimes

My first ever nickname was "aries-chick". This is my first thread, but I deleted my posts: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001385.html

Ironically I was complaining about Leo men ... lol... Someone mentioned young fire signs not always working out. In retrospect that was true.. because I now get along really well with the Leos in my life.

Anyway --- long story cut short... I've seen a lot of ups and downs on LL. We've had a lot of interesting threads, discussions and sometimes arguments.. throughout the years, and it's been fun!

At one point I got closer to a bunch of knowflakes (chatting outside LL etc.. ). I know that sometimes when you do get closer outside the forum.. you end up knowing people on a deeper level.. and you see things you might like about those people - and other things you might not like.
But that's just human nature.. I think that happens a lot in life, with everyone. No one is perfect.

I think each person has their life story and they have their joys and sorrows.
I know that sometimes we get frustrated with others.. I often feel like my tolerance level is too low. I made a thread about it in Sweet Peas recently, if you guys recall.

I completely understand the feeling of being *frustrated* when someone is maybe behaving in a way you find upsetting or reproachable... or hypocritical (or whatever negative 'banner' you believe applies) - and often the person we feel frustrated with might also feel upset with 'us', in return.

At the end of the day .. I've decided to stop judging people and try to focus on their good points.. because most everyone has them!

I don't want to specifically make this about Ami.. because my comments here are more 'general'.. But since you all ended up discussing Ami on the other thread (and since you are hinting at Ami again in the OP)... I'll say that I believe Ami is a very intuitive person, she is intelligent, emotionally attuned, and she has a lot of positive qualities. I really like reading her contributions to LL and I always find what she has to say interesting.

This ^ is what I see as the positive side to Ami.
She is definitely not a person who is 'lacking' a positive side.

Like every other human... she does not *only* have a positive side... But I am ok with that, because I think it is a part of life to *learn* to be ok with such things.

If you find someone or something more upsetting/annoying/unnerving - than others find that someone or something... then you should probably be a bit more detached and not engage at all.
There's room for everyone on LL.. because there are so many people here with varied personalities.. and we don't all have to be best friends or interact or get 'close'.

Basically, if you feel like you can't 'see the best' in an individual.. and they are annoying you - then disengage.. don't attack them... because if the person feels attacked - they will defend themselves or attack you right back - and it will simply perpetuate more unnecessary drama.

My advice is... don't bait - and don't allow yourself to get baited.. Simply move on to topics/threads you enjoy and talk to people you like talking to..

Ok! -End of extra long.. preachy post-

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posted March 01, 2014 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Let's honor the killed thread with a minute of silence...

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I know right!

For me, it had just taken a turn into the interesting!

As for AG, John Cena? Large women, Large men, sex?

AG, uhm, do you simply emjoy the company of women for who they are (while flirting heavily) or is it all about sex for you?

Psst, women like to have sex to, in many ways women are waaay more into it then men.

I ask that not as a condemnation, I say it because sometimes you send my WTF monkey swinging through the trees of the forest of my mind.

posted March 01, 2014 09:53 AM            

Maturity is hard to come by and we are all works in progress!

I have really grown up on here, not that I am perfect or near it, by any means.

I have learned amazing skills and it was to the credit of wise people like Randall and Lalalinda who allow people to grow and learn, without kicking them to the curb for mistakes.

No one has to be perfect on here, as Odette said.

People can screw up and come back the next day a little wiser.

It is rare to have a place that allows one to blossom.

I think the reason is that Randall is a natural mentor and that is one of his gifts to the world and to LL.

I will be ever grateful for the level of maturity I have gained and hope to gain more and more, although it is usually by screwing up

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posted March 01, 2014 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Ridicu-lash.

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Oh no Odette, see, women roam around like Reese's Monkeys merely waiting for the first tatt'd up Bad Boy to sleep with so they can then treat them like crap.

We massively disagree about **** Shaming, I see it as a overall good thing as when a **** does find someone to love, there is a problem as to be honest, really honest, is to drive them away, to toss it into the sea of "not going to talk about it" means repression and double mindedness.

For your part, the way I understand it, a woman's sexuality is hers to bestow or not and is not subject to outside control nor should it be.