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Kerosene
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posted April 28, 2014 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bad boys are a phase only really the dumb ones marry them but would really want a dumb spouse anyways?
LOL

To understand why they got out with bad boys is because its exciting for them, or thrilling.
that's a simple truth.

it's a parasitic relationships
The bad boys are doing their thing and good girls latch on for the ride and jump out when they had their fix.
They may continue doing this until they mature and actually looking for a real partner.

Yeah it's hard for good guys, but be exciting, move across the country do something crazy.
Reinvent your self.
Be young

compete with the bad boys.
even they will mature at some point or just wash up

I mean the constant complaining suggests that you just sit there, the way you're going you'll probably finally find a partner when your 40 but that's long time..

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posted April 28, 2014 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not everything is about finding miss right find miss wrong

Good girls get boring.
hit up your local bad bish and go on an adventure.

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posted April 28, 2014 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Perhaps it touches a nerve for you but just in case you or anyone else doesn't realize it I wanted to point out that it's intended to be comedy.


Good humor has truth ingrained inside it.

The cure of course, is to have an interesting life.

something AG does not want to hear of course

Did find the "no, stalkers have balls" really damn funny. When one is doing your own thing, this stuff does not happen.

Once again, AG won't listen

Psst, the difference is, being genuine and being about one's own business, and forever bringing whatever favor/effort it is up


I have -0- problem doing favors, i never bring them up. A good test is if it means a lot to you, and little to them

Hit the eject button

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aquaguy91
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posted April 28, 2014 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Perhaps it touches a nerve for you but just in case you or anyone else doesn't realize it I wanted to point out that it's intended to be comedy.


Yea. But... It just so happens that alot of people really believe this sort of sh*t and take it seriously and this only reinforces those stereotypes.

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posted April 28, 2014 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Good humor has truth ingrained inside it.

The cure of course, is to have an interesting life.

something AG does not want to hear of course

Did find the "no, stalkers have balls" really damn funny. When one is doing your own thing, this stuff does not happen.

Once again, AG won't listen

Psst, the difference is, being genuine and being about one's own business, and forever bringing whatever favor/effort it is up


I have -0- problem doing favors, i never bring them up. A good test is if it means a lot to you, and little to them

Hit the eject button



I know we have gone round and round on this and as much as you accuse me of not listening you are just as bad. I do live an interesting life and I actually consider myself more interesting then most people. I look around me and see tons of one dimensional people who are boring as hell and it makes me chuckle when you tell me to be "interesting". If I were a one dimensional cookie cutter person (as kerosene called them) i would probably be more successful in dating.

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posted April 28, 2014 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

AG, always keep in mind, the difference between love is not hate, it is indifference

I've said many times, you "are" me when i was your age

Which is why when i see the path you are taking, i shall warn you against it

I've learned a lot, from both sides of the coin..would i buy a woman a drink?

Yep, if she bought me one first

Would i tip my cap and say "my lady"?

Yep, if she was otherwise engaged to a man or woman (things are like that now)

Would i read poetry to a woman?

Maybe, if she liked it, we'd trade verses

Would i give a shot and half to a Nana in a nursing home?

Damn right, another set of eyes on mom is always worth the risk.


etc, there is a fine line lil one, b/t suppilcating and being interesting.

None of which requires very much $$ at all.

The only way i can clumsily put it, is, women have a radar for good men v nice guys. A good man will do those things, a nice guy will do them and then wait like a lil puppy.

Women have a sense for these things

Here is a question for you AG, that woman you want to make yours, would you go to her funeral?

Women know the difference

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posted April 28, 2014 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sibyl:
Why do you say you are a former nice guy btw? What do you do differently now?

I quit being the nice guy that society programmed me to be after seeing how evil and selfish this world is. I believe there is a verse in the bible that says something to the effect of "in the end times people will call good evil and evil good". As I said I'm not sure exactly what the verse says but it says something along those lines... And thats what you are seeing in the world today. You know something is wrong with the world when you see hoards of women spitting in the faces of decent men and pretty much worshipping bad boy thugs and criminals. A good example of this is all the women who went on and on about how "hawt" the Boston bomber was. So let me get this straight... A man who bombs a marathon and kills innocent people and children is "hawt"and a guy who is nice to women is a manipulative spineless prick? Clearly some people have elevators that dont go all the way to the top of the shaft. And all this talk of "confidence"... The world as a whole has grown incredibly vain and narcissistic. If you arent a braggart or an egotistical douchebag you must be "terribly insecure and not love yourself". The world has gone to hell in a handbasket.. And I am not going to cast pearls to swine anymore. Im not wasting my time on a woman unless she is above all the bs that is going on in the world today.

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posted April 28, 2014 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:

Here is a question for you AG, that woman you want to make yours, would you go to her funeral?

Women know the difference


Hmm... Is this a serious question or are you trying to be funny? Of course I would! But I am not getting your logic at all.. You are completely losing me with every post.

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posted April 28, 2014 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing wrong w/ being misunderstood AG

Heaven forbid one is completely understood, which is kinda the whole "interesting" point

And in answer to your question..yep, heard, 3-4 times in my life

It means, they really love you

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posted April 28, 2014 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if you are going by that logic you have to concede that I'm interesting because you are clearly misunderstanding me if you think i'm so heartless that I wouldnt go to the girl i like's funeral.

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posted April 28, 2014 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Well if you are going by that logic you have to concede that I'm interesting because you are clearly misunderstanding me if you think i'm so heartless that I wouldnt go to the girl i like's funeral.

and u r missing the point, beautiful women have many many suitors, ones i've dropped hands for

IE, not to be crude, I got into several fights over, i loved them very deeply, knew it would not work..they knew it, i knew it

If i showed at their funeral, they knew what would happen, so they always asked..would i be there?

I'm always there, always

All i can say is i got what i wanted, then lost it, enjoyed the ride AG, i'd not have you go through the same thing

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posted April 29, 2014 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're much too young to worry about nonsense. They will come in droves wen the time comes. Attain your success first.

The "nice guy" routine works differently for everybody. The big M has much success with that Beta unassertive polite smiley guy thing. I'm the diametrical opposite and the Alpha ******* thing works for me. He's got full of interest. Except he's not interested. He doesn't have time for nonsense like that. Success comes first.

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posted April 29, 2014 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:

Heaven forbid one is completely understood, which is kinda the whole "interesting" point

Hmmm...that's something to chew on....

I guess....if someone is mysterious/reticent, that can be interesting, but I don't find obtuseness interesting. Like, you won't find me reading super cryptic poetry in my spare time.

I like when people hit the nail right on the head, hard, rather than just insinuating and leaving their meaning up in the air.

A long time ago, I was reading this cookbook and noticing that I felt "cared for" because the author was so meticulous about recording every detail of the process, and her commentary on the flavors was spot-on. That's when I started equating love and clarity. Speaking to be understood, in depth, can be like a labor of love.

Which goes along with this saying:

I don't mean that in a romantic sense, more like a universal love sense. And that reminds me of what another Transcendentalist said:

"The corruption of man is followed by the corruption of language." -R.W. Emerson

^ I wonder if that's a chicken or egg puzzle. Regardless, broken communication and loose morals do seem to have a direct correlation...and in the single life, ambiguity can almost cruel, as AG was saying. I agree with that, though there is also a place for subtlety.

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posted April 29, 2014 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Well if you are going by that logic you have to concede that I'm interesting because you are clearly misunderstanding me if you think i'm so heartless that I wouldnt go to the girl i like's funeral.

Gotta admit this made me laugh.

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posted April 29, 2014 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hmmm...that's something to chew on....

I guess....if someone is mysterious/reticent, that can be interesting, but I don't find obtuseness interesting. Like, you won't find me reading super cryptic poetry in my spare time.

I like when people hit the nail right on the head, hard, rather than just insinuating and leaving their meaning up in the air.

A long time ago, I was reading this cookbook and noticing that I felt "cared for" because the author was so meticulous about recording every detail of the process, and her commentary on the flavors was spot-on. That's when I started equating love and clarity. Speaking to be understood, in depth, can be like a labor of love.

Which goes along with this saying:

I don't mean that in a romantic sense, more like a universal love sense. And that reminds me of what another Transcendentalist said:

"The corruption of man is followed by the corruption of language." -R.W. Emerson

^ I wonder if that's a chicken or egg puzzle. Regardless, broken communication and loose morals do seem to have a direct correlation...and in the single life, ambiguity can almost cruel, as AG was saying. I agree with that, though there is also a place for subtlety.


Well, as Emerson also mentions, the real individual can keep his own opinion in the face of the crowd with perfect serenity

There are also two currents running in the west, one is go along to get along, the other is to shoot ppl straight, ugliness and all. Since Christ and Christianity is largely mocked, telling the Truth in love is also not fasionable

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posted April 29, 2014 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Christianity is confusion, institutionalized.

That is my Radically Honest opinion.

http://www.radicalhonesty.com/

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ETA: Maybe you thought I was quoting the Radically Honest people when I said that "Christianity is confusion"?

No. That's my opinion after dealing with Christianity all my life.

I thought I was being rather blunt saying that to you, considering the fact that you are a Christian, and my bluntness made me think of the Radical Honesty movement. So I threw that in as a side note.

Of course, anyone who clicked on my link would have seen it had nothing to do with the comment I made before it.

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posted April 29, 2014 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Christianity is confusion, institutionalized.

That is my Radically Honest opinion.

http://www.radicalhonesty.com/


When one has to capture others words to state an opinion, then there is some pondering and thought required

Let me be honest here, how can you let someone else tell you how to think? Or speak for you?

Do you realize how weak that is? Mentally and Spiritually?

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posted April 29, 2014 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can speak without quotes, but I enjoy showing where there is a consensus.

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Originally posted by Padre35:
When one has to capture others words to state an opinion, then there is some pondering and thought required

Doesn't this apply to referring back to Scripture for the final say in everything?

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posted April 29, 2014 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Christianity is confusion, institutionalized.

That is my Radically Honest opinion.

http://www.radicalhonesty.com/


Awesome link!

I took a course once about communication with children. It stated much the same. Allot of children have issues because their parents say one thing yet their expressions say something else. It's extremely confusing to the child, as they are very good at reading people. For example, allot of children will nag their parents to play with them. Often, the parents will say something along the lines of "I'd be happy to", although they are clearly tired and don't really want to. The child can tell, and it confuses them. It also makes it harder for them to trust and understand the adult. The course argued that if you are too tired to play, you should tell the child so. Or at least say: I am very tired, but will play with you for a bit. It is much better than lying.

It is a difficult practice though, learning to be totally honest.

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posted April 29, 2014 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I can speak without quotes, but I enjoy showing where there is a consensus.

Consensus?

Laughter aside, good to know you arrive at an opinion based on other's thoughts

How mentally stout of you

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posted April 29, 2014 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sarcasm aside, you really are interpreting me in such a narrow way, it doesn't speak well for your mode of analysis.

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posted April 29, 2014 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Because Faith, there are basal things in this life, things that require consideration that should never be farmed out to others words and thoughts

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posted April 29, 2014 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sibyl:
Awesome link!
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It is a difficult practice though, learning to be totally honest.

Yes, I try to be honest with my kids, staying mindful of how they are taking things literally.

I actually haven't spent much time with Radical Honesty, I encountered the idea in the book The Year of Living Biblically (hilarious interview with the founder of the movement) and have just kept it in mind.

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posted April 29, 2014 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Because Faith, there are basal things in this life, things that require consideration that should never be farmed out to others words and thoughts

You assume that the consensus precedes my subscription to the mutually shared idea, when it fact these parallels usually emerge independently of each other.

ETA:

And besides, it's no shame to yield to persuasion when the persuasion consists of wisdom. In fact, that's the best reaction.

The words of wise men are heard more in quiet than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.
-Eclesiastes 9:17

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posted April 29, 2014 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
You assume that the consensus precedes my subscription to the mutually shared idea, when it fact these parallels usually emerge independently of each other.

HAH!

What happens is some opinion leader speaks, it is accepted then propagated, their opinion b/c your opinion, no thought required, after all, it is consensus!

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