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posted October 06, 2014 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, I looked through the last four pages for your convo with BF on the peppermint.
Is it on this thread?

T, That is awesome and such grace. Makes me want to be a sea nymph too

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posted October 06, 2014 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7thG,
I never met a psychic either. Oh, I`ve met more than a few who claimed to be and was happy to charge an arm and leg for their insights.

We are just honing that 6th sense that we all have. It`s like a muscle and exercising it makes it sharper and gives a higher degree of clarity .

Now I am really pondering your clues. In fact, they threw me off my focus...

Time for some of your energy potion . cheers!

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posted October 06, 2014 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Faith, I looked through the last four pages for your convo with BF on the peppermint.
Is it on this thread?

Oops, no, on the Bella thread in H & H.

Magic potion isn't helping me yet but....bottom's up! Maybe* it'll kick in while I'm sleeping.

*Probably not, though!

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posted October 07, 2014 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks girls. I think Poseidon and his crew need to put their hardhats back on and get to building the back deck. Now where can i get a minature grill and dollhouse tiki torches? LOL

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I never met a psychic either. Oh, I`ve met more than a few who claimed to be and was happy to charge an arm and leg for their insights.

We are just honing that 6th sense that we all have. It`s like a muscle and exercising it makes it sharper and gives a higher degree of clarity .


I'm debating on trying to relay my last two pychic experiences/readings.....

Not good.

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posted October 07, 2014 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 07, 2014 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Virgo Moon is WAY too polite sometimes. I smile and move on way too easily.

I should probably share the story about the "shaman" reading I got.

Also a joke. Maybe later.

Thanks for bringing this subject up, juni.

I think some of these bad psychic reading experiences are reminders to listen to your own gut, to your own voice and not rely on anyone else to tell you what's up, or which way to go. After lots of time and money, that's what I've gathered anyway!

You are right, we all have a sixth sense and it's in our best interests to use it.

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posted October 07, 2014 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and sorry, this is probably not the appropriate thread for these responses. This is an entirely new topic.

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posted October 07, 2014 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe we can share our 'worst psychic readings'' ever in another thread. lol

I'd rather pay a couple of people here to give me a reading than some of these people I've met in the past.

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posted October 07, 2014 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 07, 2014 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awful! $150 for nothing

The only time I went to a real ($$$) psychic, she was wrong about some things...

Psychic: Your mom is going to buy you a car.
Me: My mom isn't alive.

And there were some truly dull moments...

Psychic: When's your birthday?
Me: January 6.
Psychic: Ok, so watch your knees. You gotta watch your knees, careful on the stairs, careful lifting, remember ice packs...


But as it turns out, she was right about some of the things I was disappointed about or confused to hear at the time. I just didn't know it until it came true much later.

I've been watching videos of psychics and for a little while had a crush on John Edward. Until I saw how I sometimes ends a reading with a stream of predictions/"revelations" without letting the other person confirm whether it's true or not. He's like: "You're going to travel, probably to Disney World, so have a good time, just schedule it after your cat needs surgery on her leg again, okay? Bye now!" And the person looks confused but the show moves on.

Shady!

Yes I think he definitely picks up on stuff but there's a business end to it as well, and for him that involves wasting time acting very adamant about certain things that mystify the person being read (ie "there's someone near you whose name begins with an R"..."I'm like Rain Man, there's an R, find the R or I can't move on..." ) As if he can't admit to being wrong about anything. Whatever...

It's better to just have psychic friends

Though it would never even occur to me to try and be a "medium." I'm not 100% convinced that mediums communicate with the dead...I wonder if they are just tapping into the other person's brain, or the Oversoul or whatever.

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posted October 07, 2014 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
Thanks girls. I think Poseidon and his crew need to put their hardhats back on and get to building the back deck. Now where can i get a minature grill and dollhouse tiki torches? LOL

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posted October 07, 2014 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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- the object on the right - is an instrument - that's mostly appreciated by women. Guys can use it too (should have the same effect) - but in most cases the females are the ones who show an interest in it (they picked it up and try it on).

I can't think of any object that matches this description.

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- the object on the left - has the opposite effect: the females tend to gaze at it from distance - say few things about it and ignore it while going for the one from the right - while the guys seem fascinated by it and that's what draws their attention mainly (their object of pick). Boys will always be boys! ^^

Does it have something to do with an insect or creepy animal like a bat?

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posted October 07, 2014 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
juniperb,

I don't doubt the existence of people who are truly gifted as psychics (or cursed - depending on who you're asking). As far as I'm concern - they fall in same category as a Genius - and each field has its own. But same as Geniuses - they're probbaly rare, far from the millions of posers - who saw in this as a way to earn a easy buck - by scamming vulnerable people in their moments of weakness - through means of deceit. Even the posers have a limited potential as psychs (after all we're all psychs to a certain extent - we can all pick-up things about others) - but being manipulative - is where they truly shine. Based on my research on this subject - posing as a psychic, medium and so on - involves a set of manipulative tactics such as "cold reading (and other - similar techniques):"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading


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Cold reading is a set of techniques used by mentalists, psychics, fortune-tellers, mediums and illusionists to determine or express details about another person, often to imply that the reader knows much more about the person than the reader actually does.[1] Without prior knowledge, a practiced cold-reader can quickly obtain a great deal of information by analyzing the person's body language, age, clothing or fashion, hairstyle, gender, sexual orientation, religion, race or ethnicity, level of education, manner of speech, place of origin, etc. Cold readings commonly employ high-probability guesses, quickly picking up on signals as to whether their guesses are in the right direction or not, then emphasizing and reinforcing chance connections and quickly moving on from missed guesses.

Before starting the actual reading, the reader will typically try to elicit cooperation from the subject, saying something such as, "I often see images that are a bit unclear and which may sometimes mean more to you than to me; if you help, we can together uncover new things about you." One of the most crucial elements of a convincing cold reading is a subject eager to make connections or reinterpret vague statements in any way that will help the reader appear to make specific predictions or intuitions. While the reader will do most of the talking, it is the subject who provides the meaning.

After determining that the subject is cooperative, the reader will make a number of probing statements or questions, typically using variations of the methods noted below. The subject will then reveal further information with their replies (whether verbal or non-verbal) and the cold reader can continue from there, pursuing promising lines of inquiry and quickly abandoning or avoiding unproductive ones. In general, while revelations seem to come from the reader, most of the facts and statements come from the subject, which are then refined and restated by the reader so as to reinforce the idea that the reader got something correct.

Subtle cues such as changes in facial expression or body language can indicate whether a particular line of questioning is effective or not. Combining the techniques of cold reading with information obtained covertly (also called "hot reading") can leave a strong impression that the reader knows or has access to a great deal of information about the subject. Because the majority of time during a reading is spent dwelling on the "hits" the reader obtains, while the time spent recognizing "misses" is minimized, the effect gives an impression that the cold reader knows far more about the subject than an ordinary stranger could.


Other techniques:

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Shotgunning

"Shotgunning" is a commonly used cold reading technique. This technique is named after a shotgun, as it fires a cluster of small projectiles in the hope that one or more of the shots will strike the target.

The Forer effect (Barnum statements)

The Forer effect relies in part on the eagerness of people to fill in details and make connections between what is said and some aspect of their own lives (often searching their entire life's history to find some connection, or reinterpreting statements in a number of different possible ways so as to make it apply to themselves).

Warm reading

Warm reading is a performance tool used by professional mentalists and psychic scam artists. While hot reading is the use of foreknowledge and cold reading is the use of general presumptions common to human experience, warm reading refers to the judicious use of Barnum effect statements (also known as the Forer effect).

Peter Huston discusses this in his book More Scams from the Great Beyond!: How to Make Even More Money Off of Creationism, Evolution, Environmentalism, Fringe Politics, Weird Science, the Occult, and Other Strange Beliefs.

When these psychological tricks are used properly, the statements give the impression that the mentalist, or scam artist, is intuitively perceptive and psychically gifted. In reality, the statements fit nearly all of humanity, regardless of gender, personal opinions, age, epoch, culture or nationality.


And Yes - same can be valid for astrology. As can be seen in T's case - some people still dabble with the basics - yet, they practice astrology for a living. Which is not surprising - since most of their clients - lack even that basic understanding of Astrology. But even more than that - it doesn't really matter, because in their state - the state of those clients (feeling broken or lost in some way - if not both) - if one could point to "a different source for their pain or responsibility..." - that automatically makes them feel better. And that feeling can suffice for most people. Then there's also people who try Astrology out of curiosity - who are either testing their skepticism - or have an interest for occult practices. But that's a different story - which could cost nothing if you're whiling to learn. ^^

The more one would practice any of above - the better they get at giving people what they want... for a certain amount of cash. 150$ sounds outrages(things consider), did she do a full reading at least? O.o For 30$ i got a relaxing massage and a basic empath reading - which proved to be quite plausible. But - if it wasn't for the massage - i wouldn't even think about trying it. Though, i presume - that's around standard price - for a reading on most astrology sites. And i bet - i can do a better job than most. :P

The ironic part: people who are actually Pshych (the Genius kind) - might feel inclined to hide their powers - for their own safety. From governmental agencies to the local mafia - anyone might want to get their hands on them - and use their powers for their own benefits (spying, stealing and so on).

PS.And don't get me wrong - what i mentioned above is not about any of you. As the title of the topic says: let's "play" psychic - i don't see any harm that can come from that (kinda like "playing bank and robbers" - compared to robbing an actual bank ^^), it's not like you people ask money for testing your psychic skills... or do you?! I see it more like a guessing game - just for fun. ^^ So, I hope above info - didn't upset ya - cause it wasn't aimed at ya. ^^

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posted October 07, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,

Ok, i'll give more info:

- the right object is suppose to benefit our brain. ^^

"Does it have something to do with an insect or creepy animal like a bat?"

Hahaha! That's so american of you! ^^ Naaaah... nothing like that, yet - i did see your American homies playing with such - in more cases than one (more often than not - for pranks, especially a bf pranking his gf) ^^

If this object was the real thing - you wouldn't let your children play with it. Actually - even in its current state - you might feel inclined to scold them - to put it back to its place if they took it down. It's what other mommies did - when their children touched it... even though - i was the one who let them take it - since compared to their overprotective moms - i was sure they can be safe while I'm around. :P

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posted October 07, 2014 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, yeah I've been to one genuine one a long time ago. She picked up on names and everything. Was spot on about a lot. The others I wanted to believe some of what they were saying and sometimes added my own interp of what they probably meant. lol But looking back I can see it was a whole lot of nothing that really pertained or ended up pertaining to my life.

I know what you mean about John Edward. I notice that with many of them. And have also wondered if they are picking up on that persons thoughts or memories and not the deceased person.

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It's better to just have psychic friends

Yes it is!

7th Guardian, you brought up some great points.

Now I'm going to refrain from saying more because I don't want to lead the topic too far away from where it was.
Going to make dinner. See you all later!

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posted October 07, 2014 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Instrument...that you wear...that benefits the brain.

I haven't got the faintest idea-- guess that means I need to wear that instrument more.

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Hahaha! That's so american of you! ^^

Really?

I dunno, I thought I saw a spider plant for a second, but you said this thing doesn't have any energy, so I was thinking of other things with legs or even rotors.

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If this object was the real thing - you wouldn't let your children play with it.

Ornate dagger?

I think I'm finished guessing now. Closing up my gypsy wagon for the night

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posted October 07, 2014 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Faith, yeah I've been to one genuine one a long time ago. She picked up on names and everything. Was spot on about a lot.

I'm happy for you, that you had that experience. I love watching psychics pull in very specific things..it's like a spectator sport, watching people fish for information.

I linked to one super impressive reading many pages back but I'm too tired to find it now.

My friend is an empath and has known all kinds of things about me to the point where I feel weird and at certain times a bit paranoid. Not dramatically paranoid but sorta awkward, dunno-what-to-say-since-you-already-know-so-much.

Rule #1: Make sure your friends aren't TOO psychic.
Rule #2: If you broke Rule 1, give yourself time to adjust and clean up your life since you're being watched more closely now. <3

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But looking back I can see it was a whole lot of nothing that really pertained or ended up pertaining to my life.

Yeah...almost like my batting average on this thread..maybe 50%? Not worth paying for.

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I know what you mean about John Edward. I notice that with many of them.

Ugh! I still want to watch him but cringe when he does that. Doesn't he have an agent or someone to tell him to knock it off? He says he's a praying man, why hasn't God told him to can it??

^ Big theological question.

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Going to make dinner. See you all later!

Hope it was yummy! I'll get back to you with my guesses about your backsplash and work area later. I have my first impressions but want to see if anything else comes in.

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posted October 07, 2014 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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7th Guardian, you brought up some great points.

Yes, thank you, 7th ~ I've researched some of that already but perhaps not everyone has...good to have it posted here.

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posted October 08, 2014 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll add a photo:

- the object on the right is a head massage tool. ^^

- while the object on the left - is indeed an ornate dagger (based on a Gothic theme). So - yep, you got it right this time. ^^ Though, come to think of it - this is not the dagger i lend to children for playing with (just showed it for a sec - and put it back). It's completely made of steel so it's kinda heavy - which makes it unpractical as a dagger - other than it's real purpose (an object of decoration), though - if you drop it on your feed - that could really hurt. So no - this an adults only item. I have another one (another ornate dagger) - a wakizashi dagger with a dull blade. This one is lightweight and completely harmless - more like a cool looking toy. :P

"Closing up my gypsy wagon for the night"

For all you know - you could be a Romany to some degree. ^^ After all, except for Native Americans - the rest of you are ex-emigrants from all over the world. Did you check your family tree - or do you know where you're coming from (who are your ancestors - your roots)? O.o That could be a interesting research - in case you don't already know. ^^

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posted October 08, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my word

A head scratcher !

The dagger I get but never ever the head thing. Where on earth did you get it?

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Did you check your family tree - or do you know where you're coming from (who are your ancestors - your roots)? O.o That could be a interesting research - in case you don't already know. ^^

Indeed, I do know!


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I`ve had a awful head cold and can`t smell breakfast much less the items herein that I need to sleuth out.

I promise T, as soon as I can focus clearer, I`m on your splashboard and easel thingie

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posted October 08, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,

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I linked to one super impressive reading many pages back but I'm too tired to find it now.

Oh yeah! I think I remember that and I'd watched it before - very impressive!

The best psychics seem to come from a long line of psychics in their families, I've noticed. Some really are just naturally gifted.

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Rule #1: Make sure your friends aren't TOO psychic.
Rule #2: If you broke Rule 1, give yourself time to adjust and clean up your life since you're being watched more closely now. <3

LOL


Haha! Yep!

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Hope it was yummy! I'll get back to you with my guesses about your backsplash and work area later. I have my first impressions but want to see if anything else comes in.

Was homemade veggie pizza

Take your time on guessing. I have a busy upcoming few days and weekend and have to get to work on some things I've put off for too long. So I might not be back right away to respond.

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I`ve had a awful head cold and can`t smell breakfast much less the items herein that I need to sleuth out.

I promise T, as soon as I can focus clearer, I`m on your splashboard and easel thingie


Like I said to Faith, take your time & I'm liking the almost finished result of the painting mentioned earlier, but am feeling like I don't want to share it here now, for personal reasons. I could always email it to you when complete.

Feel better soon!

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This thread is Awesome for laughs LOL thanks
Might be my new favorite smilie too haha!
So much fun reading through this thing.

7th, way interesting objects.. Sorry I missed it. That knife really is quite lovely. I've never said that about a knife before. Might be a good idea for a collection..do you have one?

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Juni, Hi! (And Hanna? I think you were guessing on this one for a bit. I know Faith gave up on it ages ago haha--I know at least one of your guesses on this Faith wasn't really a guess, I could tell you were just throwing crap out there so..hmm! Not that I blame you, so frustrating or annoying, or something..)
But yeah, I'm gonna post a link to a pic that's the image on the pouch. I guess they got it from the Internet cos it's the exact same thing (via Etsy), or maybe they bought it from etsy then resold. 'Twas too lazy to take a pic so searched for skeleton + crown + raven and bam!
https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/6045189/il_fullxfull.265014488.jpg
Not what you expected? I didn't too much care for that trend at first, the whole skeleton thing with Pluto in Capricorn and all, but it's actually growing on me. Like the Day of the Dead. It has a certain charm.

For example this print that I was thinking of purchasing. Or something similar to it that i saw elsewhere, same type of image. Lovely and strange, unique combination. http://www.immortalitymedicine.tv/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/c4a3072825_Ali-Gulec-Flower-Skull-550x698.jpg
Man, I really do love this print! ^ The contrasting tones stand out so well.

I think i like it since it speaks to something surviving after death comforting in a way. Or sinking into mortality. Ok. Morbid! No, morbid would be saying someone looks better dead than they do alive, lol, just the skeleton tho. Not the skin parts, you know, the weird things crazy people think of cooking up. Sorry, I must be rambling. But speaking of faces and skulls, I just love seeing people made up in this fashion for the celebration, http://www.brit.co/sugar-skull-makeup/

Back on track! I thought of this specific thread and your guesses Juni so went right back to it and now I feel bad that I made you wait! I saw you were still musing about it. I think maybe i deliberately picked a relatively weird object in my home because i wanted to be weirded out that someone could close in on it. But you did get the floral and fleur de lis just a different thing (window), and like I mentioned earlier that image was occupying my mind /much more/ than the pouch :-) Very impressive! Especially for a younger person (I'm early 30s) ok not way young but anyway fleur de lis I think I associate with an older or more traditional aesthetic so that was /cool/ Tbh I was weirded out lol when you said fleur de lis but in the way that I wanted to be. I just had "pouch pouch pouch" in my mind but the image of my new window cover.

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