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hannaramaa
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posted February 08, 2015 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

Nobody=society.... In American society we constantly hear about cheating men and etc. but nobody ever bats an eyelash or raises any protests. But the moment those discussions are about female behavior it becomes "a pitchfork" and "problematic" and that is not an opinion, that is a fact. It's a huge double standard.

Blame double standards, sure, but it's not a problem women created by themselves.

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DeepFreeze
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posted February 08, 2015 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes I wonder what world you're living in, AG.
Idk if it's just you or... wherever you live is like, behind times or something. LOL

Something ain't right man.
I'm not even really debating anymore. It's funny, but I do feel bad that you're stuck in that mindset. It just holds you back even more.

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posted February 09, 2015 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
@Padre - you said this: To look at relationships, esp marriage, the women holds pretty much all of the cards. Divorces are usually initiated by women, child custody usually goes to the fmr wife,

Something interesting is my boss actually won custody of his kid, and he initiated the divorce because she cheated. He said he fought for her in court and won because he makes more.

Since there is that glass ceiling and all, generally men would (always) make more than women, so a) why wouldn't they win custody more often and b) what advantage would a woman have in court? Assuming we're talking about a boring couple who got married, husband worked, mother was a housewife, and now they're getting divorced.


There are always exceptions to the overall state of affairs. Basically no fault divorce means infidelity would not disqualify a spouse from alimony etc for cheating.

Courts generally award custody to the mother as the thought is the man has to "go out and earn a living and not have time for raising children".

Now whether that remains the status quo remains to be seen as there are now more females in higher eduction than men.

ATM however, the status quo is the status quo

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hannaramaa
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posted February 10, 2015 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Courts generally award custody to the mother as the thought is the man has to "go out and earn a living and not have time for raising children"."

If that's the case then what an archaic system we use to uphold an "unbiased and fair" court of law.... truly baffling.

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Odette
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posted February 10, 2015 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't read through this thread... but in celebration of singleness - I'll say life is SO much easier when you're single.
I can't see much that's positive in a long term relationship.
The expectations bother me.. and I don't really have time for it in my life.
Right now, any guy I would date - would feel like I don't pay enough attention to him, and he would probably take it the wrong way, and then we would argue about it every single day.

I do believe that I will be with the right person one day though and that I'll be a mother, when I'm good and ready. But I'm pretty sure it will happen very late in my life and I'm not at all trying to rush it.
I'm happy with things at the pace they are moving.

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posted February 10, 2015 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
"Courts generally award custody to the mother as the thought is the man has to "go out and earn a living and not have time for raising children"."

If that's the case then what an archaic system we use to uphold an "unbiased and fair" court of law.... truly baffling.


I'd imagine they look at what's best for the children. Since usually a woman's job works around childcare (affecting her capacity for earning) she will most likely give more care. That's changing and men are expected to supply more, if not equal support (just as a woman is expected to work more) but I'd still say that's going against the grain if only because the mother carries the child and provides milk and that's at the least illustrated by the fact society would and is more disparaging towards mothers who leave their children more than men,. Just that alone indicates who is generally considered the primary caregiver even if there are individual cases that are different.

In those cases where it is different I do think men are in a precarious situation. Like anything, there are male and female who'll work things their way and be worked and then there are just a bunch of people with their own battles, different but equal and it doesn't need to mean hating on one sex. Directed to AG.


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Randall
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posted February 13, 2015 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Single Awareness Day is almost here!

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ikja
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posted February 13, 2015 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've definitely made a vow to stay off facebook and instagram. It's already started.

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posted February 14, 2015 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:

It's ridiculous how easy men get off the hook at times. And please note that women are worse about this (that is they're more likely to blame the female) than men are. Plenty of men who have actual integrity, however, know at the very least it takes two to tango and aren't going to let men off the hook as easily as women are prone to do despite that men seem to be far more expected to play the field than women because "that's what men do" (and why women work so hard to keep him interested--and get rid of any woman who might attract him more).


Right. I've been disgusted by the same sort of behaviour, first in my childhood, and also in recent years. I think I understand why, occasionally, but I'm also just too tired, and not in the mood to think about it.

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posted February 14, 2015 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ikja:
I've definitely made a vow to stay off facebook and instagram. It's already started.

I will have to avoid the bookstore tomorrow and Sunday - those couples who fill the tables up on Valentine's Day, will be all over them.

I'll need to go to Home Depot or Lowes, to get some paint. Hopefully, the presence of my Dad will keep anyone from thinking that I'm lurking there in the hopes of attracting a lumberjack of my very own.

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