posted August 24, 2015 02:22 PM            

I recently bashed religions in general and some in particular, I apologize. It's a sensitive topic that should be addressed with great consideration.

I second Faith's question. I usually request for a moderator to step in, I haven't done it on this forum so far, but I will, if I feel insulted or that your policy is not respected. Is this the correct approach?

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posted August 24, 2015 02:28 PM            

Out of Sweet Peas or LL altogether?

Also as one who feels very damaged by my religious upbringing, I wonder if it's possible to explore those wounds here, so long as I try and give a nod of respect to those still following the religion whose people I hold accountable for injuries.

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AstroMandala

posted August 24, 2015 02:41 PM            

If you choose to label it as religion than go ahead but this just means you know nothing about morality outside of what religion has taught you.

Just because most religions speak about sexual purity and you had a bad experience with people who deep inside knew nothing about God doesn't mean sexual purity should be ignored.

@Goddessofthemoon

You can think what you want and do what you want. And no I didn't ever imagine having sex with someone as a child. The last thing on a child's mind should be such things, and if it is maybe that's why we live in a porn obsessed society who actually cause themselves to believe this is okay.

So you can try to bash this but at the end of the day deep inside your heart you know it is true. Yet you ignore it. You let yourself be led by your sexual organs.

You act as if our sexual organs were created merely to have pleasure. They were created for reproduction. What you do with your body, what you feed your mind with and what you see with your eyes is your business.

posted August 24, 2015 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, as a matter of fact, religion is not entirely on the same page with gender and race. One cannot choose their gender and race hence cannot be bashed in any way about it. Religions are more or less a personal choice in adulthood. You are free to follow them or not.
Not saying that religions should be bashed in an aggressive way, because it triggers the same defenses and emotional reactions in people; but stating one is not religious or discussing the shortcomings of religion in general or certain percepts in a respectful way is more about personal choices and philosophical debate.
Of course, I am totally against stigmatizing entire groups of people for their religion. I see the discussion, if it is, focused on the theory or the doctrine.

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I am just wondering if Randall is taking issue with my complaints about my Catholic upbringing.

I would not post about that in DD.

posted August 24, 2015 02:46 PM            

Also, I don't know why you insist with that, everyone since Freud knows human sexuality develops since womb, and that humans have a form of sexuality at any age.

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posted August 24, 2015 02:46 PM            

They had half of it right but were missing extremely vital information that God expects you to find yourself without any outside help.

Just because you had a bad experience with religion doesn't mean that all things God are entirely wrong.

posted August 24, 2015 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
If you choose to label it as religion than go ahead but this just means you know nothing about morality outside of what religion has taught you.

Just because most religions speak about sexual purity and you had a bad experience with people who deep inside knew nothing about God doesn't mean sexual purity should be ignored.

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Nobody said purity should be ignored.

It would be nice if you weren't so condescending and presumptuous when you push your purity beliefs.

posted August 24, 2015 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Athene, morality is also a personal choice. Moral codes vary. There is however a higher ethics all humans strive for, some universal good.
But the point is, your moral code is yours.

Also, I don't know why you insist with that, everyone since Freud knows human sexuality develops since womb, and that humans have a form of sexuality at any age.

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Freud? The same guy who thinks humans are inherently evil? That is false.

posted August 24, 2015 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Can't you see that all religions have tried to give you the truth yet failed?

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posted August 24, 2015 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I don't get my information from human minds.

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posted August 24, 2015 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Condescension and presumption.

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posted August 24, 2015 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

I don't get my information from human minds.

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posted August 24, 2015 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well that's wonderful for you, but I marvel that angels continue teaching you, since you are such a fiesty pupil, who cannot learn simple modes of showing kindness.

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Sometimes you have to be firm, especially with people who have massive egos.

I was never rude at all. You got insulted by my animal consciousness comment. Well, sorry to say but it's a fact. I'm sorry if the facts hurt.

posted August 24, 2015 02:54 PM            

Such a terrible way to go through life.

We never had the slightest conversation about lust before you pegged me as a hardcore lust fanatic who probably encourages children to masturbate to graphic pin-ups.

posted August 24, 2015 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
You aren't even aware of how many assumptions you routinely make about people.

Such a terrible way to go through life.

We never had the slightest conversation about lust before you pegged me as a hardcore lust fanatic who probably encourages children to masturbate to graphic pin-ups.

Before I got one word out, you had rolled out this whole long train of assumptions and dismissed me as an animal.

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Faith you act as if having animal consciousness isn't a fact of life. Look around you. Many humans have it. It's nothing to be sad over, accept it. And I never said' Faith you have animal consciousness'. I was explaining a state of mind.

The truth is you will never know higher consciousness than what you know today, unless you purify your lower chakras. That includes your root and sacral chakra. If you have issues in these chakras which spring from impurity, it's very difficult to access the beauty of the higher chakras which do not have anything to do with sex and lust.

If anyone chooses to lvie from their lower chakras that is their choice. The sad thing is most people actually believe impurity is ok. Re the porn watching thing.

I'm not about creating guilt. It truly is discernment. The point of life is to achieve God consciousness. Do you think a God would sit and watch porn and masturbate and lust after the opposite sex?

Animal consciousness means a person is ruled by their base emotional nature and not their higher nature. It's when the need for sex devoid of love rules them.

Have to go now.

posted August 24, 2015 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Randall,

Does it fall under the umbrella of the new policy, that members may not refer to each other as animals, when it is being used in the most pejorative way possible, ie, "You have no spiritual consciousness" ?

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posted August 24, 2015 03:30 PM            

I regard you as toxic and intrusive in the absolute worst way.

Please remove the above "advice" about my chakras, which reads more like a shaming, and is totally ignorant and wrong.

It is none of anyone's business, and to discuss that publicly without permission or respect betrays a rapist mentality, frankly.

posted August 24, 2015 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Also, presuming what Linda would or would not say is equally so.

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You said this in the other thread that got closed before I could respond. Considering all I have read in her books about how she is against porn and prostitution, promotes love while dispelling hate, says numerous times in her books that both lustful mindsets as well as dogmatic and orthodox thinking, especially when it comes to religions are the things causing the most damage and harm to the planet and human consciousness and posing one of the greatest dangers, not to mention the video clip of her on a talk show saying blatantly to the talk show host, "it doesn't really matter if you believe in reincarnation or not because it's real" I think I can presume a little of what she might say especially to outspoken bigots with these mindsets moderating a site dedicated to her name while insulting all the things she believed and stood for. I mean unless everything said and wrote was a lie and the deep conviction with which she expressed hers-Elf was a farce.

posted August 24, 2015 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
The point of life is to achieve God consciousness. Do you think a God would sit and watch porn and masturbate and lust after the opposite sex?

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posted August 24, 2015 03:41 PM            

I also loved her sense of humor, especially in regards to people misunderstanding each other or people trying to communicate when they have a very different understanding of the world.