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Radium
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posted March 11, 2017 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
standing for the truth is not supposed to be healing. But it's the right thing to do. This is why our world blows and good people struggle.

You haven't seen the posts mirage has said about me attacking my character. I don't play that game and I will not tolerate it. It is not right and it is not cool. I am all down for someone having a different opinion about me about you will not fantasize or demean my spirit. I am not a child. I am just going through a VERY rough time. I know she MEANS well, but it does not make it any better. Considering my situation it's a little hard to be kind. The only thing I have right now is the truth and faith. I am trying everyday and I have learned more about myself than I think most people do in a lifetime. I refuse to talk about this anymore, I'm sure mirage is a swell lady but I am not the one.

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posted March 11, 2017 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, standing up for truth is definitely the right thing to do. But not the way you have done it, allowing yourself to swear, that's being agressive. It does nobody good and especially to you. I have seen all her posts on this thread. You said you 'don't play game and don't tolerate it'. Ok, but what do you do in real life, not on the internet? If somebody random comes up to you on the street and tells things that are not true about you? Sometimes you just have to play a game and just Ignore. Very often actually. Be smart, think. Don't waste yourself on everyone around you. Did you see that I 'thumbed up' Mirage's post where she said all the things you didn't like? She gave you advice she could think of, something that made sense to her. You can choose to see only 'false accusations' and no advice or you can see both, defend yourself Honourably (no need to attack back) and consider her advice because she did try to be helpful. As you said, right now you are going through a very rough time. Even something small like this, argument on Internet forum can help you get stronger. "Considering my situation it is very hard to be kind" and this is Exactly why you should be, against all odds! Prove to yourself that you can be better. Anger will only produce anger, within yourself and after that in others around you, like an exchange, a vicious circle.

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posted March 11, 2017 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in Capricorn, in the 10th house. I have problems with my parents.

I sometimes have to defend myself, because people think I'm being 'arrogant' to my parents, but my parents have issues, and project them on me.

I think people can be presumptuous and assume Radium was arrogant towards his mother, when we don't know the full story. I'm not going to say him, or his mother, was/is in the wrong, because I don't know the details, or full story. But what if it was someone besides Radium that was the arrogant one? How can people be so sure?

Also, even if Radium came off arrogant, maybe it's because he's in a load of hurt, pain, and in an extreme situation. So I believe the 'arrogant' assumption was a bit much.

People can be ageist sometimes and assume all young people (under 30) are arrogant punks, when they (the ones judging) already have their own prejudices and biases in tact before they even listen to the whole story, and details.

It doesn't excuse Radium's rudeness, but perhaps Radium was reacting strongly to people's assumptions of him, and his situation.

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posted March 11, 2017 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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yeah mirage reflects her own kind of.. thing she wants others to be going through, like she wants there to be a lot of depth and pain

actually another old guy i know does the same thing, said i should take a philosophy course- and soon , he said. i was like wow, this guy is really not too smart to assume my life was so screwed and that i was lacking that i needed a college course. i told him what an idiot he is and college courses are not going to change anything, i took it as an insult.

but mirage feel free to post in this thread he didnt mean you cant post he just meant he isnt interested cause its not relevent


Actually, she's been through a hell of a lot more than me, and has a much better attitude.

Me? I was thinking this morning, that anything that would normally annoy me, or upset me, is just fueling my apathy. That was until someone blew their horn at my dad, for no good reason, in a parking lot. I was suddenly raring to tell this guy where to go. When a couple of guys yelled something at me, when I was walking the dogs with dad late one night last Summer, when mum was in the hospital, I almost ran after their pick-up truck (and I'm not a runner). I guess that's where people get that Aries are up for a fight. I'm usually not, but that sort of thing really ****** me off.

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posted March 11, 2017 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Radium
Just ignore the people who are nasty to you. I think it is despicable that you come on here in the WORST pain and people get on their high horse but that is life, so take all the love that many people have given you and drink from that. God loves you and many people here love you and learn the lesson of ignoring anyone who treats you poorly. You don't have to explain yourself. You can if you want, but you can just ignore, too!

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posted March 11, 2017 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Radium
Just ignore the people who are nasty to you. I think it is despicable that you come on here in the WORST pain and people get on their high horse but that is life, so take all the love that many people have given you and drink from that. God loves you and many people here love you and learn the lesson of ignoring anyone who treats you poorly. You don't have to explain yourself. You can if you want, but you can just ignore, too!


I'm not being nasty to him. I told him that I feel the same way. Stop stirring!

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Radium
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posted March 12, 2017 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so done with everyone's **** .
Those who get it - thank you. Those who don't, goodbye.

I ******* HATE people that think they are smarter than everyone else. You aren't telling me anything I don't already KNOW. If I wanted your opinions on my family life I'd tell you. You are no longer supporting me. You are trying to tell me what to do. You are really getting on my bad side Cap. STOP assuming. **** off.

This is the EXACT reason I want to kill myself. Shut up and look in the mirror Mr and Ms. Know It All.

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posted March 12, 2017 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in the past, i always did ignore that old guy constantly thinking i was for the worse. but recently i lashed out.

if you ever get the opportunity to lash out at someone and tell them what you think, its lucky. most of the time they are too closed off to consider it (not talking about anyone here) just in general. usually once they actually listen to what you say, they understand and stop being so "pained"

For example this old guy did some terrible things, but i said they werent that bad.

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posted March 12, 2017 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm so done with everyone's **** .
Those who get it - thank you. Those who don't, goodbye.

I ******* HATE people that think they are smarter than everyone else. You aren't telling me anything I don't already KNOW. If I wanted your opinions on my family life I'd tell you. You are no longer supporting me. You are trying to tell me what to do. You are really getting on my bad side Cap. STOP assuming. **** off.

This is the EXACT reason I want to kill myself. Shut up and look in the mirror Mr and Ms. Know It All.


I want to, as well. I was empathizing with you, so thanks. If this was aimed at me at all, you're doing to me, exactly what you're accusing others of doing. I would love to **** off. I don't want YOU to, though.

Ugh. I need to find a way to get some sleep. My life has been really ****** up, too, in ways. Especially in recent years. I get it. And I still don't want you to hurt yourself.

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posted March 12, 2017 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trust me teasel you would know if it was aimed at you

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posted March 12, 2017 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry erasing.

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posted March 12, 2017 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 12, 2017 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry erased oh and sorry for what i wrote i decided to erase

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posted March 12, 2017 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dont k*ll ursel

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posted March 12, 2017 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry there was a power outage and decided that i want to erase some stuff here erasing

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posted March 12, 2017 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 12, 2017 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You just told me to F off?? Really? I see. If you say what the person wants to hear then you support them and if you say something they don't like then you can "f off". Ok, good luck in life and goodbye.

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posted March 12, 2017 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I have learned from being a Mod for 7 years is that you have to ignore many people or you will be doomed. This is life, too. God will, always, send you good people, but this world has enough bad people that they will ALWAYS be a thorn in your side. Stick with the wonderful people God will send you. Do that here. Do that everywhere, God will send you angels. Embrace them

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posted March 12, 2017 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure why this is in the Astrology 2.0 Forum.

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posted March 12, 2017 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Sweet Peas.

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posted March 12, 2017 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ignoring everyone who does not agree with you or criticises will get you nowhere.
Telling them to "F off" can be said to be be a little bit better than ignoring, because atleast it does mean you have some courage to express how you really feel unlike ignoring which to me looks like an ostrich burying it's head in the sand. But this too will get you nowhere.

Not every advice people give you will be right for you, if it works, follow it, if not, discard and move on. I can actually relate to not wanting anybody's advice and wanting to learn everything on your own, but life is too short to do that and most of the times we don't even make new mistakes, we keep making the same old ones.

Good luck Radium.

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posted March 13, 2017 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I will not say I understand you or why you feel this way. Only you really know.
I am not going to give you advice or tell you what to do or try to cheer you up.
Why not?
Because such happy happy joy joy platitudes and panacea even when well meant, does not usually help me. It often comes across as greeting card sentiments.
In fact it can when I am in my deepest depths of abysmal despair, drive me away and make me more antisocial and more apt to give up.
Yes,the option of suicide is a constant thought in my mind. In fact I agree with Nietzsche
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“The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets through many a dark night.”
– Friedrich Nietzsche

This quote explains that the thought of suicide can help us get through tough times.
Just knowing it is a realistic option, can help me hold off from doing it one day at a time. That is one thing that works for me. However you are not me. Again; I am not telling you what to do.
So on that note I will say;
I wish for you to find the right direction for you. Only you know you and what may or may not work for you. I wish for you the best possible outcome for you in the long haul. {{{hugs }}}
Sincerely,
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posted March 13, 2017 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything that annoys you is teaching you patience. Anyone who abandons you is teaching you how to stand own your own two feet. Anything that angers you is teaching you forgiveness and compassion. Anything that has power over you is teaching you how to take your power back. Anything you hate is teaching you unconditional love. Anything you fear is teaching you courage to overcome your fear. Anything you can not control is teaching you how to let go.

Radium, I went threw the same thing awhile back were others didn't really understand my soul purpose. At heart I know I am here to be a psychologist\ life coach. I want to help others progress in life because the way that I progressed in life was to walk threw the darkest parts to understand the light, then to help others in the dark. Also who I can help vs who I can't. Some people were totally behind me and others were not so supportive. What I found is, that others didn't have the same drive as me to accomplish things they set their mind to, others were never able to obtain their dreams and some people are just negative in general, some are envious and jealous, some people just don't understand psychology or the need for it even though they have the most issues I have ever seen in someone. etc... What I am trying to get at is that others will project onto you their own , something made them that way and the way to relate is to understand how something made you. If you can see it from an objective stand point you won't take it to heart so much. Hardest thing I have ever had to learn but others really have nothing to do with you if you are giving things your all. ( STILL LEARNING) Simply just their projection of who they are on to you. IF you can separate yourself, you can actually smile at it because you just got a glimpse of who someone is because they are telling you who they are. ( I hope that makes sense maybe a pluto thing)

Don't get me wrong own your own faults but also you know who you are and thats enough. Just be the best you and help others where you can. Remember you are human too and that it's ok to be human. I support you and I wish you the best and others too!!!

Psychology wise , just for knowledge sake ,when one becomes older they seek to pass down who they are as an attempt to keep themselves alive. ( like you do to a child) Although you are not a child, youth( you) is still establishing adolescence or self and do this till mid life( 40ish) . If you can understand that she just wants to pass herself on to you so that when she dies, it will be apart of her that she helped you, is in like you wish to do with your music and being a legend ( unforgettable) . Also as people age their seritonin declines which makes them more untrusting of others, also happens when we get depressed. Dopamine can play parts as well( skipping the biology class, boredom etc because I am a HUGE NERD. lol )

I hope you can see it as a bridge of understanding. I look at older people in amusement anymore because I have learned this is what is really going on, to be objective the best way I can.( don't take anything to heart if you can as I can be very sensitive to criticism) Also understand accepting their advice is helping in ways to them because they feel they are passing their genes down to you. You will do this when you hit about 40 to 60. ( FYI)

In some ways you can see in yourself, you want to be you and excepted for who you are, your sense of self means more where her knowledge and legacy means more to her. Two different worlds same purpose in ways.

Opposition just needs understanding thats all. Astrology and psychology thought me these things. Maybe pull your charts up and see what is what and where ( still working on it though) you are alike, differences and how to bridge the gap. We use synastry for relationships but everyone outside of self is in actuality a relationship, just different than love relation.

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posted March 14, 2017 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You just told me to F off?? Really? I see. If you say what the person wants to hear then you support them and if you say something they don't like then you can "f off". Ok, good luck in life and goodbye.

She has a point with this.

Radium, you can't tell everybody that doesn't support you to **** off just because they have something to say to you that you don't like. I get that some people aren't worth your time but right now you're acting like you are above it all and know all; in reality you aren't. You aren't as knowledgeable and understanding of what goes on as you think you are because if you were you wouldn't be in this miserable state. You would be able to better yourself.

Getting angry at people all the time and ******** doesn't make you sound like a highly intelligent person, especially with how you're going about it now. Listen to what people have to say instead of hogging all the compliments and shoving all the criticism away. You'll never learn anything that way.

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posted March 14, 2017 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone is intelligent in their own right. Just because I didn't respond in a formal way doesn't mean I'm not grateful either. My situation doesn't define me, Just like yours doesn't.

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