posted July 25, 2011 05:25 AM            

I liked your description of Moon/Pluto especially and I agree. It really really hits you to the core. So powerful on an emotional level. The Moon is deeper than Venus, more emotional; Venus is about relationship and more romantic; in a way Venus is attracted to something / someone, and the Moon needs someone.

I think even in a trine Moon/Pluto can feel very strong, though of course one has to be equipped to handle the intensity.

On Juno.
Mmh, well, I donīt know. Maybe, but let`s not idolize her too much, she had her shadow sides as well, and I wouldn`t want to face Juno`s wrath and thirst for revenge, if she thinks she has been wronged.
"The wrath of a woman scorned", that is her as well, you know?

posted July 25, 2011 05:25 AM            

I liked your description of Moon/Pluto especially and I agree. It really really hits you to the core. So powerful on an emotional level. The Moon is deeper than Venus, more emotional; Venus is about relationship and more romantic; in a way Venus is attracted to something / someone, and the Moon needs someone.

I think even in a trine Moon/Pluto can feel very strong, though of course one has to be equipped to handle the intensity.

On Juno.
Mmh, well, I donīt know. Maybe, but let`s not idolize her too much, she had her shadow sides as well, and I wouldn`t want to face Juno`s wrath and thirst for revenge, if she thinks she has been wronged.
"The wrath of a woman scorned", that is her as well, you know?

posted November 29, 2012 10:02 PM            

sq Mars exact & Pluto by 1°

-------------- she's running away from Nessus in my chart~ hah

Nessus Thereus Diotima @ 10° Leo h12 (Diotima is where we get the term "Platonic friendship") - it's like encoded messages --- "beware friendships" - "beware those who would have you believe they are/want to be just friends"...

in which case~ >_<

posted December 01, 2012 12:33 AM            

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Originally posted by racole12:
mine is in the 10th... that DEFINITELY works for me. I was a professional musician and had a sinus surgery where the doctor hit a major nerve on the right side and now my right said of my face is numb. Completely ended my career as a professional french hornist... then went on to doing drawings/renderings professionally and now my left arm, shoulder and back is riddled with arthritis and tendinitis. I'm starting to pursue Photography... we'll see what happens! sigh...

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Yikes! I have Deja in the 10th as well.

I was wondering: what is the significance of Deja in aspect to the Sun and Moon?

I have Deja sextile Sun 1 orb and trine Moon 1 orb.

posted December 01, 2012 01:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok my theory of a 12th house Deja is that YOU do not accept your own weakness.
IOW,if you cry you would say to yourself"Get over it"
You deny your own weak parts.
Does this fit with you 12th house Deja's

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Just looked up my little sister's chart and she has Deja conjunct venus (0.45 degrees) in 12th house Capricorn AND her venus is unaspected

I feel so sad for her because I can foresee what she'll go through growing up and know her concept of love is going to be skewed... I just hope it doesn't mean she'll spend her life feeling victimized in relationships or by the people she loves.

Also my Saturn and NN are conjunct her venus/deja by about 1 degree. Don't know what to make of that. I guess it makes sense considering I'm 16 years older than her so I play somewhat of a parent role (hopefully more stabilizing than restrictive) and that she was fated to be in my life, being that my NN is Cap 7th house, she's definitely taught me a lot of important lessons about maturity in relationships.. Hopefully the conjunction with deja just indicates that I feel a strong responsibility for protecting her/helping her heal from wounds, and will always be there for her, which I will be...

posted December 02, 2012 11:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Sugarplum:
hi ami, what would Dejanira in Virgo 9th house conjunct Jupiter in Virgo 10th house mean? Also, it conjuncts my MC exact. May u give me some insight on these aspects please?

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Deja conj Jupiter would be a help to it, as Jupiter will help you not be so much of a victim as it gives you joy, hope and optimism.

Deja con the MC is not a good one, as your victim role will be played out on the social stage or career stage imho Can you relate?

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posted December 02, 2012 11:26 AM            

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Yikes! I have Deja in the 10th as well.

I was wondering: what is the significance of Deja in aspect to the Sun and Moon?

I have Deja sextile Sun 1 orb and trine Moon 1 orb.

(And in exact opposition Fortuna, but that one sounds fairly straightforward...)

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sextiles will allow positive usage of Deja. Were you victimized but learned how to deal with it, and make positive out of it?

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posted December 02, 2012 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Just looked up my little sister's chart and she has Deja conjunct venus (0.45 degrees) in 12th house Capricorn AND her venus is unaspected

I feel so sad for her because I can foresee what she'll go through growing up and know her concept of love is going to be skewed... I just hope it doesn't mean she'll spend her life feeling victimized in relationships or by the people she loves.

Also my Saturn and NN are conjunct her venus/deja by about 1 degree. Don't know what to make of that. I guess it makes sense considering I'm 16 years older than her so I play somewhat of a parent role (hopefully more stabilizing than restrictive) and that she was fated to be in my life, being that my NN is Cap 7th house, she's definitely taught me a lot of important lessons about maturity in relationships.. Hopefully the conjunction with deja just indicates that I feel a strong responsibility for protecting her/helping her heal from wounds, and will always be there for her, which I will be...

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That is a lot--Deja conj Venus and that conjuncts NN and Saturn.

Let me ask you this. When she loves, is she victimized? She may be too young to know. These placements do seem to indicate she will be victimized in love and will need to really, really struggle to make good come out of it. God can overcome any chart imho

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posted December 02, 2012 05:39 PM            

It is strongly trine my MC... and you know Ami, I have to admit, I certainly do come across the victim who needs help and comfort and usually gets it quite often. BUT only when I feel I really should. I don't take advantage of kindness or people offering to cheer me up. I just can't hide the way I have been hurt by people.

posted December 03, 2012 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
sextiles will allow positive usage of Deja. Were you victimized but learned how to deal with it, and make positive out of it?

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I think so! I'm pretty renowned among my friends for taking things really well. I'm not one to get too worked up about most things or panic. =)

posted December 03, 2012 06:01 PM            

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That is a lot--Deja conj Venus and that conjuncts NN and Saturn.

Let me ask you this. When she loves, is she victimized? She may be too young to know. These placements do seem to indicate she will be victimized in love and will need to really, really struggle to make good come out of it. God can overcome any chart imho

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Sorry I was being unclear, her deja is conjunct her Venus in 12th house. Her Venus is unaspected (not including aspects to asteroids)

I was looking at the synastry I have with her, and my Saturn and NN conjunct her Venus/deja...

But to answer your question, she's very young (she'll be 6 in January) so it's still too early to tell as far as adult relationships go. But I do worry a lot about how she'll view relationships when she's older.

It's a complicated story lol but my mom and ex step dad (her dad, she's my half-sister), got divorced about a year and a half ago, and it was a VERY messy separation. Physical violence (in front of her), constant fighting, lawyers, restraining orders, etc etc. Needless to say I think both of them are extremely selfish people for choosing to even have a child together but that's a different story lol

Anyway, they still are not on civil terms, and basically use her as a pawn to manipulate or hurt each other... They both want her to dislike the other parent, and it's to the point where if they (my mom and him) are ever in the same room, she won't even look at or acknowledge my mom because my ex step dad has guilted her that much about how "awful" my mom is and how she shouldn't show love to her (essentially), and my mom also guilts her in extremely childish ways such as crying in front of her when she leaves to go to his house.

There are other details but basically I know she feels torn and hurt, and probably like she's responsible in some way for their problems, when all she really needs is unconditional love and acceptance from both of them which she is not getting.

I can't even explain how angry and upset all of it makes me, because she doesn't deserve to be treated that way, and I know the damage it's causing, but I've had to distance myself from it because when it comes down to it there's not much I can do.. If I was in a position to raise her myself I would. But I know the best I can do is make sure she knows I'll always be there for her in every way I can be, and that she is loved very much and doesn't deserve in any way to feel victimized for showing love. (Which is where I think my Saturn/NN conjunct her venus/deja shows that this is my responsibility or fate...)

Sooo sorry for writing so much lol, but it was just sad to see that in her chart...

posted December 14, 2012 02:48 AM            

Pluto/Mars just passed over all of these (is now 2 degrees past) and it I think it was dredging up many old, painful family memories (and a lot of irritating things in my home.)
We are ok today but I had a very hard time w/ my Mother growing up & moved out permanently at 13. My father I get along with but he was never around (always working). I would definitely describe the family as high functioning "dysfuctionals." ;}

I do work in Real Estate/properties, as do many folks in my family and some of the worst power plays I've had to deal with over the last 3 years (beyond relationships) is dealing with several male workers on my home renovations & even tenant of my rental. I assumed it was just Pluto wreaking havoc thru my 4th but maybe Dejanira played a part? Weird.