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Topic: IQ - on "lustful" asteroids
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 10:15 AM
Lara,sorry to be a wet blanket, but could you do the list again with the parameters I suggested? I want to do some counting. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 26, 2010 10:23 AM
How do you mean? Do you want the orbs listed cos they are all within your criteria or would you like houses etc put in? (me confused!!) lol IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32804 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 26, 2010 10:27 AM
DD On composite A----can I look at the houses???? I know that I need to ignore the houses on the other composites.------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 10:28 AM
I am a bit lazy today, so I am only listing the conjunctions of these composites (and other aspects under 1 degree): A: Lust conjunct Valentine conjunct Angel in Scorpio in 10th house
Mercury conjunct Neptune in Sag in 11th house Ceres conjunct Isis in Pisces in 2nd house Eros conjunct IC in 4th house Amor conjunct NN (conjunct Mars) in Libra in 9th house exact aspects: Moon sextile Valentine / Lust / Angel Moon sextile Ceres Moon trine Juno Moon square Mars
Venus square Pluto Saturn square Angel and Lust (but not Valentine, how interesting) Saturn square Juno Saturn opposite Osiris NN conjunct Amor NN trine Osiris Chiron square ASC Ceres sextile Juno Ceres trine Valentine Isis trine Valentine Juno trine Angel Juno trine Lust
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 26, 2010 10:32 AM
oh ok, so you'd like me to do the composite one again? So the synastry i did ok? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 10:35 AM
composite B:Amor conjunct Pallas in Pisces Aphrodite conjunct SN Lust conjunct Eros in Libra Sun conjunct Pluto conjunct Osiris conjunct Angel in Libra Isis conjunct Valentine Vesta connecting both sets of conjunctions; Vesta is directly conjunct Osiris and Valentine Mercury conjunct Venus in Scorpio exact aspects: Sun conjunct Angel Sun conjunct Pluto Sun conjunct Osiris Sun sextile Neptune Sun trine Psyche Mercury trine Amor Venus trine Pallas Saturn trine Chiron Neptune sextile Osiris Pluto conjunct Osiris Psyche trine Angel Psyche trine Sun Pallas square Juno Juno trine Lust Eros conjunct Lust Valentine conjunct Isis
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 10:41 AM
composite C:Angel conjunct NN Mars conjunct Mercury Osiris conjunct Vesta conjunct Isis Psyche conjunct Pallas exact aspects: Sun sextile Ceres Jupiter trine Pallas Saturn trine Mars Pluto square Vesta NN square Amor NN sextile Aphrodite Chiron opposes Lust Valentine square Pallas Angel square Amor Angel trine Juno Eros trine Psyche
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 10:43 AM
Ami,yes the houses are right in the first one. Lara, no, no, I was thinking about synastry, but really am only interested in those aspects I mentioned. Like for example: Ceres conjunct Sun For now I am not interested in something like Ceres conjunct Kaali. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32804 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 26, 2010 10:58 AM
Your listing the aspects ,DD, makes it much easier I will be back and forth during the day .------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 11:01 AM
I thought it would. Helps me wade through the mass of information.The second one looks slightly "dark", doesn`t it? Just that Sun-Pluto-conjunction there and then even connected to that bunch of asteroids. Osiris is not really "light" either. I wonder what Kaali and Siva are doing in that chart. lol IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 11:09 AM
WEll, Kaali and Siva are not doing much in that chart.Kaali being exact conjunct Ceres and roughly opposing Sun-Angel-conjunction. But the Sumerians are pretty active there. Adonis conjunct Inannen precisely and exactly sextile Inannen and trine Ishtar.
And then there is Anubis... on 18 Cappy squaring the Sun/Pluto/Angel/Osiris-stellium. JEEZ, what is THIS about? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 11:11 AM
Can you stomach some more? Nessus is on 20 Cancer, opposing Anubis and squaring Sun/Pluto/Angel/Osiris. *starting to slowly back away from composite chart* Maybe, just maybe, it`sn ot such a good idea to be in a room with him, even if it will be full of other people, too? Especially in a rather, mmh, "gothic" environment?
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 26, 2010 11:12 AM
yeah and i think i did only list the aspects you mentioned, didn't i? Where there were cj's to the aspects i just added them! IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 11:18 AM
Actually on t hat very day there will be a conjunction of Sun and Mercury on 21 and 20 Libra, so having just transited over the Pluto/Angel/Sun/Osiris stellium and approaching Valentine, Isis and Vesta.And Tr Moon will just have transited over Anubis, which - of cousre - falls onto my Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp. Luckily the composite Nessus is aspecting neither Venus nor Dejanira, not in composite, not in our natals. Though composite Nessus on my Eros / Vertex and his Lust?
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 11:20 AM
Lara,yes, that might have been wehre the confusion stems from, the adding of all the conjunctions. Though I generally think it is important to see it alltogether, for that special purpose, it is actually countereffective. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 32804 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 26, 2010 11:52 AM
Yes, the second one seems darker. I wish I was better ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 11:53 AM
DD, I am going to look at our aspects for you. Do you want me to use Lust, Eros and Aphrodite only? Do you want me to include any others?IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 12:20 PM
ViG,"Can you check in your synastry following ones? conjunction / oppositions: 3 degrees trines / square: 2 degrees sextile / quinkunx: 1.3 degrees Moon/Ceres/Demeter/Amor
Venus/Juno/Valentine/Psyche Mars/Aphrodite/Lust/Eros to
Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, ASC, chartruler and to Karma, Destinn, NN and Vertex?" Moon / Ceres / Demeter / Amor for platonic and family love.
Venus / Juno / Valentine / Psyche for romantic love Mars / Aphrodite / Lust / Eros for sexual attraction. and only to identity-objects: Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, ASC and chartruler. and in a second step karmic / fate markers like Karma, Destinn, NN, Vertex. So in the romantic category something like: Valentine conjunct Sun would fit,
but Valentine conjunct Eros wouldn`t appear there. This is just for checking how the attraction markers are distributed.
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Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 26, 2010 12:22 PM
Here you go DD (not much has changed) moon/ceres/demeter/amor my moon/amor cj (in aries) cj his mars my moon/amor sextile his venus (in gemini) my amor trine his AC my ceres sextile his AC
his moon sextile my destinn his ceres trine my sun his ceres opp my karma his demeter trine my AC his amor trine my AC/moon/venus his amor quincunx my mars Venus/Juno/Valentine/Psyche my venus cj his mars my venus sextile his venus my venus quincunx his karma my juno opp his sun/jupiter my juno trine his NN my valentine square his mars my valentine trine his karma my psyche cj his moon/karma his venus sextile my venus/moon/NN his juno sextile my AC his valentine opp my moon/venus his valentine quincunx my mars his valentine square my destinn his psyche square my sun/karma Mars/Aphrodite/Lust/Eros my mars opp his karma my aphrodite cj his venus my aphrodite sextile his mars my aphrodite quincunx his karma my eros square his NN
his mars cj my venus his mars cj my NN (4) his aphrodite cj my AC (0) his lust cj my destinn his lust square my NN his eros cj my mars his eros trine my vertex IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 12:39 PM
*sighs*I think I must communicate very unclearly today. I actually meant it like this: moon/ceres/demeter/amor my moon cj (in aries) cj his mars my amor cj his mars my amor trine his AC my ceres sextile his AC my moon sextile his venus (in gemini) my amor sextile his venus
his demeter trine my AC his amor trine my AC his amor trine my moon his amor trine my venus his amor quincunx my mars his ceres trine my sun Venus/Juno/Valentine/Psyche my juno opp his sun my valentine square his mars my venus cj his mars my venus sextile his venus my psyche cj his moon
his juno sextile my AC his venus sextile my moon his valentine opp my moon his venus sextile my venus his valentine opposite my venus his valentine quincunx my mars his psyche square my sun Mars/Aphrodite/Lust/Eros
my aphrodite sextile his mars my aphrodite cj his venus his mars cj my venus his aphrodite cj my AC (0) his eros cj my mars karmic markers ----------------- my venus quincunx his karma my valentine trine his karma my psyche conjunct his karma my mars opp his karma# my aphrodite quincunx his karma his ceres opp my karma his psyche square my Karma --------------------------------
my juno trine his NN my eros square his NN his moon sextile my destinn his valentine square my destinn his lust cj my destinn his Venus sextile my NN his lust square my NN his eros trine my vertex IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted September 26, 2010 01:25 PM
oh i see!! You wanted the aspects to be grouped together Thanks DD, i didn't realise that IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 01:34 PM
Yes, exactly that.As you can see you have very many and beautiful loving and romantic aspects, but not so much sexual ones. Yet the sexual you have seem to be extra juicy. So I think it shows that though the sexual is NOT the primary factor in getting together, it must be very fulfilling. I think it is also important to have mutual aspects, meaning that there is some balance. I wouldn`t want a synastry in which only one person`s love or erotic asteroids are being triggered, while the other stays un-triggered. Might be very disbalanced. What do you say about my composites, especially the first two ones? IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 02:10 PM
I guess this would be a very disbalanced synastry:Moon/Demeter/Ceres/Amor dialoge in my head: -do I really have to limit myself to 1.3 degrees for sextiles? - Oh well, yes, I think we must. - But we have such a nice Moon-Sun-sextile at 2 degrees? - stick to the rules! We layed them ourselves, and with good reason, missy! Remember? You even considered leaving out quinkunx and sextile alltogether! - oh well, if you / we think so. Enough of my mental weirdness.
Moon / Ceres / Demeter / Amor ----------------------------- my Ceres square his ASC -------- his Ceres trine my Vertex his Ceres trine my Destinn his Amor quinkunx my Vertex his Amor quinkunx my Destinn Venus/Juno/Valentine/Psyche ----------------------------- his Venus square my chartruler his Psyche trine my chartruler his Valentine quinkunx my ASC his Valentine opposite my Venus his Valentine quinkunx my Mars his Juno conjunct my Mars
my Venus conjunct his Sun my Juno sextile his chartruler my Valentine conjunct his Mars ------------------ my Juno sextile his NN my Juno sextile his Destinn his Venus conjunct my NN Mars / Eros/Aphrodite/Lust ----------------------------- my Lust conjunct his ASC my Aphrodite sextile his Venus ------------------------------- my Eros quinkunx his Karma my Eros conjunct his Vertex his Eros trine my Vertex his Lust sextile my Vertex EDIT: my personal conclusion:
There is a heavily karmic theme here, but not enough substantial connection. With that I mean connections to "identity"-planets/points. It`s not our personality that is the reason for any possible attraction. Attraction could of course still be there, as we left out all the other neat aspects like asteroids to each other or Venus-Pluto etc. There are also some "core" aspects like ASC-ASC-conjunction for example, which would imply a belonging to the same soulgroup. BUT with so little aspects to identity-points, there might not be enough meat to the attraction. Nothing to keep it anchored by our personalities. There are of course some "highlights" still. First of it is very clear, that this is not about a platonic/ family connection, which also, to a big time, excludes unconditionality. Only one aspect in this first sector, and then a square. Oh please! The romantic sector seems to be considerably stronger. On first glance it seems like he might be more drawn to me with that mass of aspects, but looking a little closer we find:
his Sun and Mars are having conjunctions to very loving energies in my chart (Venus and Valentine). Sun and Mars are representative of male behaviour, so probably they are stronger in a man, could be even emphasising the attraction. Aspects to his love-asteroids are considerably weaker. The quinkunxes might be indicative of a certain cluelessness what to do about me. Something that just doesn`t sit entirely right. There are two stronger connections, too, though his Juno conjunct my Mars his Valentine opposite my Venus Now, Mars is not a gender planet for a woman; many women tend to project it onto the men. So he loves my animus, that what I like to find in a man. Since my Mars is conjunct his ASC (by 4 degrees, that is why I did not list it), could it be that he would love or like the way I see him as my "ideal man"? On the other hand, though Mars usually is not an identification object for most women, it`s different in my case, as Mars is conjunct my ASC. So Mars is very much a part of my own package. (Adding to the conventional gender representations I think that first of all EVERYONE identifies with their Sun - and maybe even Moon- PLUS all planets conjunct Sun, ASC, chartruler and the genderplanets become identification objects themselves). But if there was some attraction on his side, it probably would take place, if I am exhibiting "masculine" characteristics. He sort of would be drawn to "the man in me". lol Funnily though his Venus is conjunct his ASC, so an identification object for him, too. So any aspects to his Venus could also meant that I am drawn to "the woman in him". how confusing! Then there is his Valentine opposing my Venus - I guess that would add some spice, and probably potential attraction, too, but not a smooth one. Might even oscillate at times. In the third category it becomes clear that he is "just not into me". My Lust and Mars conjunct his ASC are speaking loud and clear, as well as the fact that there are no aspects from his side (though I wonder if it has any meaning that his Cupido is exactly conjunct my ASC and also conjunct my Mars. lol). EDIT 2: Modifying factors could be through houserulers: my 4th house ruler conjunct his ASC my 7th house ruler --- my 5th house ruler conjunct his Sun (my 8th house ruler ---) his 4th house ruler -------- his 7th house ruler -------- his 5th house ruler square my chartruler his 5th house ruler conjunct my NN (his 8th house ruler conjunct my Venus) IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 03:17 PM
After that first step I would check aspectsWITHIN one categore, for example Ceres - Moon and then YIN to YANG, especially 2nd to 3rd category; I think even though people are not each other`s type normally (as shown in little involvement with identity objects), if there are strong aspects, there seems to be an attraction out of the nowwhere, which might even seem unexplainable. "You are so not my type, sowhy can`t I stop staring at you?" In the case of my example synastry. Aspects WITHIN one category: (1) his Demeter quinkunx my Demeter (2) his Valentine opposite my Venus (3) his Lust sextile my Eros his Eros trine my Eros Mix of Romantic and sexual attraction (2)-(3) his Venus sextile my Aphrodite his Juno conjunct my Mars his Valentine quinkunx my Mars
my Juno conjunct his Eros my Valentine conjunct his Mars Of course we could also check how the emotional mixes with the other two categories.
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venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 26, 2010 03:23 PM
DD, Here is my group of aspects. Jupiter is my chart ruler, and Mars is his.Moon, Ceres, Demeter, Amor My moon quincunx his moon My moon sextiles his venus My moon conjuncts his Jupiter My moon trines his destinn My moon sesquidrates his ASC His moon opposes my sun His moon quincunx my moon His moon quincunx my venus His moon square my mars His moon square my Jupiter his moon square my north node his moon opposes my vertex his moon quincunx my destinn his moon semisquare my ASC my ceres sextile his venus my ceres conjunct his Jupiter my ceres conjunct his Pluto my ceres sesquidrate his ceres my ceres trine his Demeter my ceres trine his amor my ceres squares his karma his ceres quintiles my venus his ceres squares my vertex his ceres sesquidrates my ceres his ceres squares my amor his ceres squares my karma my Demeter quincunx his moon my Demeter conjunct his Jupiter my Demeter conjunct his Pluto my Demeter trine his Demeter my Demeter trine his destinn his Demeter square my sun his Demeter trine my moon his Demeter opposes my Jupiter his Demeter opposes my north node his Demeter squares my vertex his Demeter trines my ceres his Demeter trines my Demeter his Demeter squares my amor his Demeter quincunx my destinn his Demeter sesquidrates my ASC my amor trines his mars my amor semisquares his Jupiter my amor squares his ceres my amor squares his Demeter my amor squares his destinn his amor trines my venus his amor trines my ceres his amor trines my Demeter his amor squares my destinn Composite Moon trine venus Moon biquintile mars Moon semisquare Jupiter Moon quintile Pluto Moon sesquidrate Demeter Moon semisquare karma Ceres square Jupiter Ceres trine vertex Ceres conjunct Demeter Ceres square amor Demeter sesquidrate moon Demeter conjunct venus Demeter square Jupiter Demeter sextiles vertex Demeter conjunct ceres Demeter square amor Demeter square karma Demeter conjunct destinn Demeter quincunx ASC Amor square venus Amor opposes mars Amor conjuncts Jupiter Amor semisquare north node Amor sextiles vertex Amor square Demeter Amor conjunct karma Amor square destinn Venus, Juno, Valentine, Psyche my venus conjuncts his sun my venus quincunx his moon my venus conjuncts his venus my venus sextiles his mars my venus sextiles his jupiter my venus squares his ASC his venus sextiles my moon his venus conjuncts my venus his venus sextiles my mars his venus trines my Jupiter his venus trines my north node my juno semi squares his sun my juno trines his north node my juno semi squares his vertex my juno quincunx his juno my juno semisextiles his psyche my juno trines his destinn his juno biquintiles my moon his juno quincunx my juno his juno trine my destinn my valentine sextiles his sun my valentine squares his north node my valentine trines his valentine my valentine semi squares his psyche my valentine squares his karma my valentine quincunx his ASC his valentine trines his valentines his valentine opposes my psyche his valentine sextiles my karma his valentine quincunx my ASC my psyche trines his mars my psyche quintiles his Jupiter my psyche sextiles his north node my psyche opposes his valentine my psyche sextiles karma his psyche squares my Jupiter his psyche conjuncts my vertex his psyche sextiles my juno his psyche semisquares my valentine his psyche conjuncts my karma his psyche sextiles my destinn Composite Venus square mars Venus square Jupiter Venus sextile vertex Venus square karma Venus quincunx ASC Juno sextile vertex Juno trine valentine Juno trine destinn Valentine trine moon Valentine square mars Valentine trine juno Valentine conjunct destinn Psyche sextile sun Psyche sextile north node Psyche conjunct karma Psyche quintile destinn Mars, Aphrodite, Lust, Eros My mars sextiles his sun my mars squares his moon my mars sextiles his venus my mars semisquares his mars my mars trines his Jupiter his mars sesquidrates my sun his mars semisquares my mars his mars sesquidrates my north node his mars quincunx my Aphrodite his mars trine my karma his mars square my ASC my aphrodite quincunx his mars my aphrodite trines his north node my aphrodite opposes his eros my aphrodite trine his karma my aphrodite trine his destinn my aphrodite trine his ASC his aphrodite square my sun his aphrodite trine my moon his aphrodite trine my venus his aphrodite opposes my jupiter his aphrodite opposes my north node his aphrodite squares my vertex his aphrodite quincunx my destinn his Aphrodite sesquidrates my ASC my lust squares his Jupiter my lust conjunct his north node my lust sextiles his vertex my lust conjuncts his karma my lust sesquidrates his destinn my lust trines his ASC his lust sextiles my moon his lust trines my jupiter his lust trines my north node his lust sextiles my vertex his lust squares my destinn my eros squares his sun my eros squares his venus my eros biquintiles his Jupiter my eros trines his north node my eros opposes his vertex my eros trine his karma my eros conjuncts his ASC his eros sesquidrates my venus his eros opposes my Aphrodite his eros quincunx my karma his eros sextiles my ASC Composite Mars square venus Mars opposes Jupiter Mars biquintile moon Mars square sun Mars quintile Aphrodite Mars square destinn Mars sextile ASC Aphrodite quintile mars Aphrodite quincunx north node Aphrodite quintile vertex Aphrodite square karma Aphrodite square lust Lust sextile moon Lust square Aphrodite Lust opposes eros Eros trine moon Eros opposes vertex Eros opposes lust Eros trine destinn Eros sextile ASC IP: Logged |