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MsCandeh
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posted July 10, 2011 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Awww Thank you for your kind words ((MsCandeh))
You always warm my heart.

I am not afraid of the spiritual world, I would be if I did not feel I understood it.
I guess it is like anything else. If you feel you understand it, you are not afraid
My best friend is an electrician. I get freaked when he gets near wires. Water can even be near him but he is not afraid lol


((Ami)) i am glad. i am also glad you can see who i am for me, and don't judge me like a lot of other people do. i feel like you do understand me even after such a short time!

i wonder if that is to do with your kundalini energy experiences adn kaali being on my ASC? maybe that affects how i interact with people it depends on how their kundalini energy is faring??

i am afraid because i have only had negative experiences with the spiritual world (in my mind negative anyway) because i feel i only pick up the bad energies. that's a reason why i think kaali is bad to have on the ASC because she is a dark energy herself so may even draw them to me.

now having this square sun and mars i am not sure if it is as important but i am sure that there is something going on there too .. it seems like such a coincidence!

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posted July 10, 2011 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Kaali sq Sun and Mars

Where is your Sun?
Your Mars is in Scorpio --right?

Does Kaali touch any other asteroids?
Does your Mars or Sun touch any other powerful things like Pluto?

I am just meditating on this. Bump this thread if I don't get back cuz my Earth void gets me scattered

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posted July 10, 2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ms Candeh
Tell me your Sun aspects and Mars aspects including Asteroids.
I am thinking Kaali is pulling on something else.


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Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

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posted July 10, 2011 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes Kaali sq Sun and Mars

Where is your Sun?
Your Mars is in Scorpio --right?

Does Kaali touch any other asteroids?
Does your Mars or Sun touch any other powerful things like Pluto?

I am just meditating on this. Bump this thread if I don't get back cuz my Earth void gets me scattered



*bump!!* hehe

Kaali sits at 21.15 aquarius.

Mars in Scorpio (20.23 degrees) conjunct the MC (18.40 degrees scorpio)
Mars WIDELY conjunct Saturn at 12.23 scorpio (8 degree orb)

Sun in Taurus (22.06) conjunct the IC (18.40 Taurus) wiiiiiidely conjunct Venus (12.52 Taurus) (10 degree orb)

are these significant?

Kaali opposes a few asteroids but does not conjunct any that i have looked up.

she opposes Pandora, Union, and Narcissus which all sit on my DC.

there could be other astroids i haven't looked up.

no asteroids conjunct my sun or mars.


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posted July 10, 2011 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

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posted July 10, 2011 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
she has an especially tight opposition with narcissus which sits at 21.08 leo, as opposed to kaali which sits on 21.15 aqua.

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posted July 10, 2011 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Bump


bump!!! hehehe


sorry, couldn't resist

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posted July 10, 2011 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
she has an especially tight opposition with narcissus which sits at 21.08 leo, as opposed to kaali which sits on 21.15 aqua.

You mean Kaali when you said she?


I need to meditate on this. Remember to bump in due time

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posted July 10, 2011 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe sure. yes sorry i meant kaali when i said she. i see this asteroid as more of a personification than any others!!!

i'll be back tomorrow.. maybe around this time tomorrow night because i am moving my new couch into my new house tomorrow after work. yay

bumpity bump!

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posted July 10, 2011 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darling
BEFORE you leave WHO is "SHE"?
"She" has a tight opposition with Narcissus? lol

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Jung
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry love i wrote it above your post!!!

she is kaali

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posted July 10, 2011 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
sorry love i wrote it above your post!!!

she is kaali


OK
Talk tomorrow!

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Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks again for all your time and effort

goodnight!

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posted July 10, 2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
thanks again for all your time and effort

goodnight!


Aww You are very ,very welcome MsCandeh Sleep well

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posted July 10, 2011 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pandora, Union and Marcissus on the DSC
I was thinking there was some pull on Kaali which was making her harder than normal.

OK--this would make a lot of sense.
Pandora is chaos--opening up and flying out.
Narcissus is self love which is often too much so could be called malignant self love.
It is a grandiose self,often(not always Nicki )

so--here we may have part of our answer.


Your Kaali has the opposite pull of Pandora which is Chaos getting ready to open up and let all your hang ups fly out unstopped, unable to be stopped from flying forward.

That makes PERFECT sense from what you describe.

You have Kaali on one end which is pure Kundalini energy.
Opposing it and puuling as a see -saw going up and down,you have Pandora which wants to fly open and expose ALL your secrets--all of them.

So, you are trying to pull your Kaali back ALL the time so the opposite end--Pandora does not fly out.
That ,to me, describes your dilemma almost to the tee.
What do you think?

I will meditate on Narcissus and see what I come up with lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conj the IC
Mars conj the MC

Sun oppose Mars

Let me think about this

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Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Kaali is between these two STRONG forces on the angles
So--you have 4 strong forces on Angles if you think about it
You have a strong number of asteroids on the DSC
So you have set up a grand cross --would it be?
I am not good on the chart shapes.
Is it a grand cross?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what? I think I figured it out
You have Kaali conjunct the ASC. Kaali is almost a black hole. It is our deepest INTERNAL energy . For you,it is on the outside which is an anomaly.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pulling on the Kaali energy from the opposite is Pandora and Narcissus.
Pandora is the opposite force of Kaali. Pandora is an opening of deep things and propelling them outward.

So, on these two angels alone you have a HUGE struggle.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you add Mars on the MC, you have the strong pull of Mars squaring the Kaali energy.
This would be a force of frustration to both Kaali and Mars.
They would be warring to see which side would be dominant.
A square is even harder than an opposition.
A square would make you not feel comfortable in either side of the square.
The Mars drive would not feel comfortable with the Kaali huge force of energy.

Kaali would not feel comfortable with Mars wanting to exert drive on it.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 10, 2011 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have the Sun on the IC getting in to the picture.
Your ego is warring with the Kaali energy for resolution.
Also, I have not even looked at how other angles are warring/frustrating/thwarting each other cuz this is the energy of the square.

The energy of the opposition is see -sawing between one side and the other.

The square is harder.

I think this one part of the chart is a huge
part of the struggle you are talking about.

What do you think?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 14, 2011 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am interacting with 3 ladies who have Kaali conjunct Ascendant in Pisces at the moment.
They have the most bizarre Astral experiences and yes, Psychic Shielding is COMPULSORY for them.

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posted July 29, 2011 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have the Sun on the IC getting in to the picture.
Your ego is warring with the Kaali energy for resolution.
Also, I have not even looked at how other angles are warring/frustrating/thwarting each other cuz this is the energy of the square.

The energy of the opposition is see -sawing between one side and the other.

The square is harder.

I think this one part of the chart is a huge
part of the struggle you are talking about.

What do you think?


oh my goodness yes I think that is absolutely on the mark. Everything.

Though I am a bit confused about pandora on the DC. So my Internal Kundalini enery on the OUTSIDE of me (Kaali conj ASC) is warring against my energy wanting to shout all my secrets out to the world? I relate to them separately but not sure how they are workd with each other!

I feel that people *see* my kundalini energy and it freaks some people out. Not sure what I do to do that but its weird Usually when I make eye contact with people. I don't understand it though but always known that its there.

So when I am exerting my Sun and Mars energy, especially as they are conjunct the angles and naturally opposing each other, this is affected by the Kaali / Pandora energy. It is frustrating yes and I feel very misunderstood... sometimes find it hard to understand myself most times! I am just considered a 'quirky' person :P

Not sure if I am making sense as I am at home sick with flu

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posted July 29, 2011 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Am interacting with 3 ladies who have Kaali conjunct Ascendant in Pisces at the moment.
They have the most bizarre Astral experiences and yes, Psychic Shielding is COMPULSORY for them.

I need to work on this iQ. I am not good at it at all. I am not sure what constitutes a bizarre astral experience (would you mind elaborating on this?) but I definitely don't like it from my experience.

My dreams are bizarre, but these aren't astral experiences I don't think. Never had a flying dream or anything normal like that!

Are these women you are working with dealing with transit Kaali conj asc?

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posted July 29, 2011 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well
What is on the DSC will be projected out.So that is where I got that. You may have a lot of Pandora but you seek for it or find it on the outside perhaps by manifesting it yourself to the outside but NOT owning it so other people see it in you and you are looking for it in other people but you don't see it in yourself.
Does that fit at all? I am basing it on my Venus and I will explain why

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