posted July 10, 2011 10:18 AM            

i have previously been given advice from iQ and a pyschic on separate occasions to protect myself with purple shield.the psychic told me i was like a vaccuum absorbing others energies and that i need to protect myself. i think this relates to kaali astrologiclly. i feel it makes me able to take on others pain and relate but maybe too much. i am useless at shielding/imagining light around me (even if i have meditated which i haven't really successfully done on my own but have done in a group) and i have had some negative experiences on the astral plane and am totally and utterly scared of it to be honest. it happens when i sleep and i can't control it. i don't sleep much and don't like being alone because i don't feel protected ... others' energies seem to provide the static i need to be able to not feel negative energies of whatever it is that is around me (my ex describes this as 'dross')... changing furniture around and keeping things very clean seems to alleviate it somewhat. i would descibe myself as highly intuitive and aware (regarding spirits) but this also scares me because of my experiences with them since i was little.

does anyone have any advice for someone with my kaali placements?

kaali in aquarius
conjunct ASC (1.30 orb)
square Mars (0.52 orb)
square Sun (0.51 orb)

and opposes a lot of asteroids that sit on my DC

not sure if what i wrote above made sense to kaali but i thought i'd write everything so it might help?

posted July 10, 2011 10:25 AM            

I will think about the sq Mars and Sun.

posted July 10, 2011 10:27 AM            

hope noone thinks i am crazy?? :P i don't know if i am, but it is definitely there. i have a pretty strong grip of reality in all other areas of life.

posted July 10, 2011 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think the Kaali conjunct Asc would mean you are a "walking Kaali" lol
This may be a walking vacumn in which your Kaali could suck other people's energy in the sense of a magnetic pull i,e I don't mean it in any "bad" way like you are a psychic vampire
That may be what people mean. It could be like "wound" in the sense that you have to protect it from the elements with a bandage.

I will think about the sq Mars and Sun.

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thanks for your reply ami

when the psychic told me i was like a vaccuum it totally made sense. I dont think i am a psychic vampire (gosh i dont get any enjoyment out of things like that!) but i have the power to alter the mood of a room if i wanted to, in a negative way. but i guess that most people would be like that if they had the will. i can feel moods shift when i walk in sometimes (usually if i get the feeling they have been talking about me). i normally deal by not saying anything or chat about something else.

the power to alter the mood of a room, that would be more projection rather than vaccuuming though (like spreading the mess, rather than cleaning it up!) i know i can do it, but i don't because i don't get any kicks out of doing this (unless i use it to try to be happy when everyone is down! this is much harder though). the only time it happens is when i am intensely emotional about something and i can't keep it in (i am a very readable person even without saying a thing), everyone can feel what i am feeling. that is like the opposite of a psychic vampire (i think). it is like i ooze whatever i am feeling. if i am stressed everyone around me gets stressed. its really annoying for me because if anything i need people to be rocks for me when i am down or stressed and bring me back to normal, not reflect what i am feeling myself.

posted July 10, 2011 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
i feel like i am and have always been aware of a lot of other energies but i don't know how to deal with it.. like a total n00b
maybe it's because i wish it would all go away! i don't really want to confront it because of fear. but am willing to work on it if i know what on earth (or not-so-earth) i am dealing with.

hope noone thinks i am crazy?? :P i don't know if i am, but it is definitely there. i have a pretty strong grip of reality in all other areas of life.

any advice is definitely appreciated

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You are not crazy Darling not any more than I am

Explain this more--with as much detail as you can.
This is always an astrological explanation for things.
The hard part could be finding it but it is always there.
We can see if we can find it!

posted July 10, 2011 10:52 AM            

also i want to be a more private person but i dont feel i can bcause people are always asking me 'what's wrong' or 'what are you sooooo happy about' ... i need to read up more on kaali i think to see if this relates. the problem is not even showing my moods (maybe it is on my face? I can just be making a cup of coffee in the staff room and people can tell if something is wrong or not!) and if i don't say anything then i feel weird for keeping it to myself or that i am lying when i say everything is fine and it's not because i hate lying even to my own detriment.. i am definitely a very open book, what you see is what you get, but there are a lot of layers there too... noone understands me i don't think even though they think they do because they can 'read' me.

then again i can read others as well which works against me sometimes but also works well in certain situation as well (like if someone is in a bad mood i will 'back off' and let them have their space). i thought i was just good at reading body language but i can tell over the phone as well. but i am wondering if this is just me, or is it everyone? or is it just heightened intuition?

posted July 10, 2011 11:02 AM            

You almost have no defenses to KEEP yourself inside your own skin cuz the Kaali conjunct the ASC is so prominent.

Does that make sense .Do you know what I mean?

Let me try to explain better.
Kaali is Kundalini energy. it is very powerful and very INNER.

You are "wearing" it on the outside which is an anomaly of it ,if you could say that.

Therfore, yours is in the "wrong"place you could say as if one had a hand growing out of one's ear

Does this fit so far lol

posted July 10, 2011 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You are not crazy Darling not any more than I am

Explain this more--with as much detail as you can.
This is always an astrological explanation for things.
The hard part could be finding it but it is always there.
We can see if we can find it!

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You R A

hope my recent post just described it.

it is also to do with my feeling bad spirit energies. i never feel good ones! (if i have i haven't recognised it). i have forced myself to live 1 hour away from everything i know, my only affordable living option up til now, rather than live with my dad for FREE much closer to friends, family and work, while i have been looking for a house, because i cannot bear to be in dad's house (the house i grew up in). there is a nasty mean bugger that lives there, and this is where my bad spiritual experiences started. i freaked my mum out because at age 5 i would say that the mean eyes were looking at me through the curtains (when i was in my bedroom with the lights off trying to go to sleep). it's like they took up embodiment in the holes in the curtain thread with light shining through. i wasn't exposed to ghost stories or anything like that as a kid so it was just my own feeling. My mum guand myself have had bad experiences in that house and we only talked about it when i was muuuuch older and neither of us lived there anymore. she is a definite believer in this stuff too. when i was 6 i wrote about it in my school book that someone was woke me up by hitting my head, (they were tapping it hard with a fist or something, like you would knock a door) then mum opened the bedroom door two seconds later to wake me up for school. i was 6!! and went on to write it in my daily story book or whatever they called it. i remember this even now, 21 years later, very vividly. when my ex (mrPisces) and i were living in that house with dad for a while, mrPisces is very spiritual and much more evolved on this level than i (i am a relative newbie, even though it's always been there i just didnt understand it!) he banished it to the back room. it worked. i felt lost without him, spiritually, when we broke up and he moved out. when i used to live with my mum and i had just started dating mrPisces the same thing happened. he created all my 'shields' for me. i know this sounds a bit wacko, but its something i have not shared with anyone else in my life except for him. he is like my real life protector/spiritual guardian angel and definitely shields me from bad things. i am living with him at the moment (as friends) and am about to move out to live on my own again. i am anxious about this even though i have lived alone before just fine (anxious on a spiritual level .. living on my own, cooking dinnner, cleaning the house, paying bills etc is easy!) but he says i need to do it as he won't always be around to protect me like that. i asked him what kaali meant to him and he said that she was a bad spirit. :/ he doesn't do astrology though so it means nothing to him when i talk about my ascendant etc.

does this sound like it relates to kaali? i am not sure! or again, is it just heightened intuition?

i have also had one terrifying experience with astral travel - it was accidental astral travel - and it was when MrPisces wasn't staying with me that night at my mum's place. I came back into my body and woke up IMMEDIATELY (like i was just completely wide awake.. no tiredness, no fogginess which is unusual as usually I am foggy when i wake up) and whatever it was, i could feel hovering over me though i couldn't see it anymore. it was terrifying. it's like these things just come and attack me. i dont even know what they are. it was just a black thing.

so that's why i am scared of astral travel.

i tried to meditate one night recently and did a pretty good job (mr pisces was next to me again!) trying to create shields but not really able to do it. when i fell asleep I astral travelled again. i could see my body on the bed with a massive light around it. interesting. then i must have realised what had happened because i scared the bejeebers out of myself and went back into my body and woke up immediately again. i. freaked. out. and couldnt sleep again.
mrpisces thinks that in this instance it was my own dross and not anything untoward that i was freaked out about. he assures me that this house has nothing nasty in it because he has put up wards and makes sure the energies are good and charged.

posted July 10, 2011 11:26 AM            

OK First of all, you are NOT crazy.The energy world is REAL.It is as real as the molecular world of molecular particles.

Quantum physics can now prove this.
You are picking up on energies from the next dimension.

posted July 10, 2011 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
NOOO Don't be sorry Sweetie
I have to try to sense what is happening.
I think I get it now.

You almost have no defenses to KEEP yourself inside your own skin cuz the Kaali conjunct the ASC is so prominent.

Does that make sense .Do you know what I mean?

Let me try to explain better.
Kaali is Kundalini energy. it is very powerful and very INNER.

You are "wearing" it on the outside which is an anomaly of it ,if you could say that.

Therfore, yours is in the "wrong"place you could say as if one had a hand growing out of one's ear

Does this fit so far lol

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yes i think so. i am not sure what kundalini energy is other than it is powerful

i read a little bit about it but i am really not that spiritually advanced, i don't think.

i think also, that is why i am scared of astral travel as well because i am vulnerable and these things just see me as food lol

and i hate being an open book sometimes. everyone knows my life, good and bad and sometimes i would like to keep the bad things to myself and not overemphasise the good things either. it is SO frustrating. i am totally aware of it and try to stop it but it is so hard!

but i think what you wrote about the INNER me being so exposed is spot on.

when you first meet me everyone thinks i am a very social happy go lucky funny intelligent person (aqua ascendant, whats not to looove! hehe). I am a friendly person so tend to make friends easily. then they hang around me for a while and realise its not all roses. i wish it was all roses or that i could at least keep that up it would make life easier. and also people form judgments about me which has definitely worked against me.

so many times i have had people make a judgment on my character that is SO opposite from the truth. when i have found out on rare occasions (after they have gotten to know me) i have been totally shocked.

posted July 10, 2011 11:30 AM            

ALL those bad energies would be gone in an instant.
One must know how to deal with the Spirit world cuz one has authority over it.
You as a flesh and blood person HAVE authority over spirits which have no body so are inherently weaker than you.

posted July 10, 2011 11:32 AM            

You say" I cast you out in the name of Jesus"
It will leave--right away!

You do it next time so you don't have to rely on your friend.

Tell me what happens. You can contact me on the other site, too,as you know

posted July 10, 2011 11:35 AM            

Kundalini energy is a very inner thing.

Kundalini Yoga is not this big sacred thing,in my understanding.
It is simply an accessing of one's deeper energies.
*I* have had no huge things happen to me as people talk about.
I have just had more energy and better skin and hair

posted July 10, 2011 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am gonna talk to you from all of my hats--Born Again Christian, have done Kundalini yoga for 2 years, have done OBE's for many years, Astrology student.

OK First of all, you are NOT crazy.The energy world is REAL.It is as real as the molecular world of molecular particles.

Quantum physics can now prove this.
You are picking up on energies from the next dimension.

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you always know how to speak to me

thank you for not making me feel like i am crazy. i know a lot of people are interested in this but am not comfortable or am restrained in talking about this with anyone. people in my life think i am just a generally spiritual person (my best friend sees me as gypsy-like - i don't get that one but thats how she sees me!) i haven't really gone into it in depth with anyone, except with MrPisces and we can talk for hours and hours about energies and all that fun stuff. he has validated all the negative energies that i have felt since i was little as he has been in those places as well. they freak him out too i think he is just stronger than i am. he can have energy wars with them. i can't because of fear.

posted July 10, 2011 11:48 AM            

I am not afraid of the spiritual world, I would be if I did not feel I understood it.
I guess it is like anything else. If you feel you understand it, you are not afraid
My best friend is an electrician. I get freaked when he gets near wires. Water can even be near him but he is not afraid lol

posted July 10, 2011 11:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
To the Bible believer ,the Spirit world is not scary.If you had those experiences around me, I would deal with it--no sweat, no hassle.

ALL those bad energies would be gone in an instant.
One must know how to deal with the Spirit world cuz one has authority over it.
You as a flesh and blood person HAVE authority over spirits which have no body so are inherently weaker than you.

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this makes a LOT of sense. i never thought of it this way. and i know nothing bad can happen to me on the physical plane if anything happens on the spiritual plane. well i don't think it can.

i have tried, meekly, in the past and it has not worked. the only thing that works is swearing at them. it only works for a little bit. i am not quite sure what i am dealing with.

i am anxious moving to a new house because this house is older than my father's and am hoping there is not too much residual energy there.

mrpisces says that during my life i will come across bigger energies than what i have in the past and that i need to learn how to deal with it as well.

so what you are telling me is what he is telling me.

so i guess meditation is really going to be called for. i go to bed and read to get myself to sleep rather than meditate. i studied natural therapies and always felt like i wish i could meditate like everyone else who studies natrual therapies can. i understand how to do it but find it hard on my own. i probably don't look after myself the way i have been taught but i know what to do and am good at giving out advice to others when they ask for it

i am a very visual person and shoudl be able to imagine shields in meditation but i can't.

posted July 10, 2011 11:57 AM            

In the spirit world, words have energy. Everything is energy but in that world, it is more direct ,you could say.
In other words, the name of Jesus said in that way--used as a command will force any bad spirit to leave.
Please, tell me what happens !

posted July 10, 2011 11:57 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes ,I agree about Kaali on the ASC as "bad" from my own intuitive sense.

Kundalini energy is a very inner thing.

Kundalini Yoga is not this big sacred thing,in my understanding.
It is simply an accessing of one's deeper energies.
*I* have had no huge things happen to me as people talk about.
I have just had more energy and better skin and hair

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lol well that sounds like a good thing!?
funny .. i have nice hair and nice skin - maybe that is a result of kaali on the ascendant haha

i think maybe i should work my way up to kundalini yoga, if i ever did it. i read all those things too in other threads.. you are lucky it seems that it is a very natural energy to you.

posted July 10, 2011 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
lol well that sounds like a good thing!?
funny .. i have nice hair and nice skin - maybe that is a result of kaali on the ascendant haha

i think maybe i should work my way up to kundalini yoga, if i ever did it. i read all those things too in other threads.. you are lucky it seems that it is a very natural energy to you.

i am scared because it might do something bad to me lol

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Well, I know there are horror stories but I never experienced anything weird so I can't speak to them lol

posted July 10, 2011 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Awww Well Darling---Try this simple thing "Spirits, I command you to leave in the NAME of Jesus"

In the spirit world, words have energy. Everything is energy but in that world, it is more direct ,you could say.
In other words, the name of Jesus said in that way--used as a command will force any bad spirit to leave.
Please, tell me what happens !

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thank you for your advice ami

i will try and see how it goes. i probably won't use the name Jesus but i will say something to that effect. it's not that i don't think it will work, but as i don't follow the Bible i don't feel that it would be as effective. i know that i can find an effective alternative though. i don't actually follow anything, i just consider myself a spiritualist even though i was baptised roman catholic (italian family!)

if my alternative doesn't work then i will try what you say.