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Topic: kaali conjunct ascendant
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Ami Anne
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posted July 29, 2011 08:03 AM
  
I will tell you about my Venus and tell me if it fits.
She is a Gemini Venus in the 7th house and unaspected.
I can give love out.People see that in me but I feel thirsty for love and can't give it to myself well.
I seek it in others/in relationships.
The point of it may be that others see that disowned Pandora in you even though you may not feel you can access that part of yourself.Does any of that fit? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 29, 2011 08:15 AM
I suppose the answer for 7th house planets or asteroids is to force ourselves to absorb that energy in to ourselves.
Actually,YOU KNOW WHAT --Lightbulb moment lol
I have Nessus and Venus in the 7th.I do not own my own Nessus.I find it so,so hard to face the Nessus in myself.That has beenmy struggle on here from the beginning.
I have said that I cannot own my own "bad".Nessus is our "bad".It is the deepest,darkest worst part of the person.It is the abuser energy.
Think of torture and the worst crimes against humanity.That is Nessus.
I still cannot own it to this day.
You know what? I find it in abusive men and my mother but I had no choice in her.
However, I have not stood up to her using my own Messus cuz she beat me down so badly for any show of my own power.Anyway, that furthers my explanation of what you have in the 7th ,you project out.
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Ami Anne
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posted July 29, 2011 08:17 AM
However,it adds another wrinkle to it. People do not see Nessus in me.I have cast it off so much that it is like a dead limb.However,we all seek balance in everything so I FIND it from the outside.
With Venus, people feel it in me but I am not able to nourish myself with it. I hope that makes sense.This is all a discussion obviously not me making pronouncements.
I want to discuss all this stuff so we all can grow and learn! Tell me what you think lol IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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posted July 29, 2011 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I will tell you about my Venus and tell me if it fits.
She is a Gemini Venus in the 7th house and unaspected.
I can give love out.People see that in me but I feel thirsty for love and can't give it to myself well.
I seek it in others/in relationships.
The point of it may be that others see that disowned Pandora in you even though you may not feel you can access that part of yourself.Does any of that fit?
Yes I think so. People see me as chaotic is this what you are trying to say? I feel like chaos happens to me, and is around me and I keep trying to get away from it but it follows me. People view me as a chaotic person. I feel frustrated and tied up on the inside with all the little things that happen. People would put that down to a low capacity to 'cope' with things. Or in other words I need to toughen up. I don't feel like it is me though. I feel like I have more things constantly happening than others seem to. I crave that stability deep down. But I can definitely see others seeing my pandora when I dont feel it's my fault, or that it's me. (maybe it is?) IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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posted July 29, 2011 09:06 AM
I think that you have some *very* good insights  So planets/asteroids in the 7th are 'projected' but not felt in the self? This would make sense. Would you say this is similar for planets in 7th 8th and 9th houses or just 7th?
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Ami Anne
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posted July 29, 2011 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
Yes I think so. People see me as chaotic is this what you are trying to say?I feel like chaos happens to me, and is around me and I keep trying to get away from it but it follows me. People view me as a chaotic person. I feel frustrated and tied up on the inside with all the little things that happen. People would put that down to a low capacity to 'cope' with things. Or in other words I need to toughen up. I don't feel like it is me though. I feel like I have more things constantly happening than others seem to. I crave that stability deep down. But I can definitely see others seeing my pandora when I dont feel it's my fault, or that it's me. (maybe it is?)
YES totally. That is what I am saying.Thank you for taking it so well. Why be fake lol
I should change my Sig to "Why be fake?" Look at my Sig ! ------------------
It doesn't happen all at once.You become.It takes a long time.That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily,or have sharp edges,or who have to be carefully kept.
Generally,by the time you are Real most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby.
But these things don't matter at all,because once you are Real you can't be ugly ,except to people who don't understand.
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Ami Anne
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posted July 29, 2011 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by MsCandeh:
I think that you have some *very* good insights So planets/asteroids in the 7th are 'projected' but not felt in the self? This would make sense. Would you say this is similar for planets in 7th 8th and 9th houses or just 7th?
No Darling This is purely a 7th house thing. Now ,go back and read about my Nessus and Venus though.
One is projected --Venus.
The other one I find in others but reject in myself totally for fear of it. I had to throw my personal power away as a child. I am afraid that my personal power will make me "bad" as I was punished for wanting any kind of separate identity from my Narcissitic mother.
I threw away my own Nessus for sheer fear of all those demons and goblins which we all have.
This is a big issue for me cuz I have stomach aches and hold this cast off part of me in my body in a frozen kind of way. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 29, 2011 09:49 AM
So the Nessus I found in abusive men or men who would act out Nessus on me.With Venus,people feel it but I do not drink it enough.That is my quest --to drink from my own pool of love not just give it away.
I have an unaspected Venus which can run wild if not tamed. I am trying to do that  IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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posted July 29, 2011 10:21 AM
ooo okay. So how come the Venus is projected, but the Nessus is something you reject in yourself and find in others - if these are both found in your 7th house? I feel that I project Pandora.. I find most other people less chaotic than myself (or that, they have more control over their outer selves than I do and I wish I could come across more controlled and calm. When I do try it feels weird and that I am not being myself. Actually I feel that I need to be considered chaotic otherwise people wonder what is wrong with me!). Although i do have other asteroids aspecting this. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 29, 2011 10:31 AM
Yes Ms
That was my question.Why do I project one but cast off the other.
Prolly Venus is a nice pretty energy and Nessus is scary.
However IQ did my synastry with my mother.I had to throw away anything of my own power so i am prolly scared to death of the abuser energy in myself.
That is why I threw it away.It was too scary to have .
Environment works with the chart so that must be the answer here .IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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posted July 31, 2011 04:06 AM
Ahh that makes perfect sense. So it can manifest in more than one way.REgarding my Pandora, my mother is very chaotic as well, we are similar people, though it frustrates me seeing that in her and I wish she wasn't so like that. She is not a stable person. I still love her with all my heart and we have had an up and down relationship but we can talk for hours about things. But she's someone who will jsut change things at the last minute to suit herself without regard to anyone else. She never used to be like that when we were younger, but when she left my father when I was 16 she turned into a very selfish person (I believe). That is really hard for me to say. Anyway My dad sees pandora in me and he abhors it. He keeps telling me I Am like my mother.. which I don't think I am, though I don't like stagnation like my mother. My dad has Saturn conjunct Sun, he seems to thrive of constantness. He lives n a very stagnant house (the one where I dont like staying). I think you need a good balance though. I try to achieve balance between Pandora/chaos/change and stability. I feel that my quest IS to be stable and I keep changing things so I feel more stable, eg house (I swear I am never moving again now! Have moved 4 times in the past 3 years). That apparently also comes with Sun in 4th house as well. I want to settle here and have some constancy. People have said tht I am flighty which upsets me because I dont see myself as flighty. I keep my word and am honest. I am down to earth and I SEEK stability. I am loyal to my relationships and friends and I ususally have long friendships and relationships so its not like I am flighty like that. So I totally agree with Pandora being projected (although its not entirely me). I seem to attract chaos to me and I wish that I didn't. It does affect me greatly. Everytime something happens now my boss says 'what is it with you? Why are bad things always happening to you?'. It doesn't matter how organised I am things still seem to happen that dont happen to other people (frustrating!) NOT happy about narcissus being conjunct my DC as well!! Gosh. Dont want to even go there. Still not sure how Kaali affects my DC planets though. IP: Logged |
BelligerentPygmy
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posted September 24, 2011 03:54 AM
What's in the OP reads like a classic Neptune boundaries issue. Hang around any astro board long enough and you'll see plenty of threads like this where it turns out the person who started the thread either has a really strong, prominent Neptune or a really afflicted one.The answer is always grounding, shielding, stuff like that. Which I know is sometimes easier said than done - I've tried the mental imagery shielding thing and it never works for me, I have to go other routes to protect myself.
But to get back to Kaali specifically - what would Kaali quintile Mars indicate do you think?
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sand
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posted September 24, 2011 04:18 AM
kaali 20 aquarius 7' 36"square sun square mars IP: Logged |
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