posted September 22, 2012 11:05 AM            

I am going to continue the research, based on my personal and mostly on the synastries of famous couples...

But now i can share what i've found most astonishing in these cases:

posted September 22, 2012 11:20 AM            

I am more and more convinced that this cannot be a coincidence, because you cannot choose two random dates and times which will repeat the same aspects exact. What are the odds for that, right?

So:

I made a synastry chart between me and Mercury guy, now and in our supposed past lives.

It turns out that:

Now:
My Saturn conjunct his NN EXACT
His Saturn conjunct my NN EXACT
Then:
My Saturn conjunct his NN EXACT

How is it possible?

Now:
His Galatea (74) conjunct my IC EXACT
Then:
His Galatea (74) conjunct my IC EXACT

Now:
His Mercury conjunct my Eros EXACT
Then:
His Mercury conjunct my Eros EXACT

Now:
His Neptune square my Venus EXACT
Then:
His Neptune square my Venus (4) but it still is a repetition, lol.

Now:
My Mars trine his Angel EXACT
Then:
My Mars trine his Angel EXACT

Now:
My Chiron conjunct his Psyche EXACT
Then:
My Chiron opposes his Psyche (1)

Now:
My Galatea conjunct his Lust (1)
Then:
My Galatea opposes his Lust (1)

posted September 22, 2012 11:37 AM            

Now:
My Sun square his Neptune
Then:
My Sun square his Neptune

Now:
My Sun semisextile his Pluto EXACT
Then:
My Sun semisextile his Pluto EXACT

Now:
My Moon conjunct his SN EXACT
Then:
My Moon square his SN EXACT

Now:
My Mercury squares his Chiron
Then:
My Mercury squares his Chiron EXACT

Now:
My Jupiter conjuncts his SN
Then:
His Jupiter conjuncts my SN

Now:
My Saturn squares his Moon
Then:
My Saturn squares his Moon EXACT

Now:
My Pluto opposite his Mercury EXACT
Then:
My Pluto opposite his Mercury (1)

Now:
My Eros conjuncts his SN EXACT
Then:
My Eros conjuncts his NN EXACT

Now:
My Amor conjunct his Nessus EXACT
Then:
My Amor opposite his Nessus EXACT

Now:
My Lust conjunct his Galatea
Then:
My Lust conjunct his Galatea EXACT

Now:
My Angel opposite his Lust EXACT
Then:
His Angel opposite my Lust EXACT

Now:
My Lust conjunct his Nessus EXACT
Then:
His Lust conjunct my Nessus EXACT

posted September 22, 2012 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusdeIndia:
This should also be of relevance
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017293.html

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Thanks! I'll see it!

The above is not a hypothetical charts by placing the planet manually, but adjusting the Pluto placements from ephemeris, e.g. last time it was the same position as the Pluto in our Draconic chart, till seconds.

posted September 22, 2012 12:51 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by VenusdeIndia:
This should also be of relevance
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017293.html

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posted September 23, 2012 02:37 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
However, if you don`t share the exact same Pluto-position, the PAST charts would relate to different timeperiods.

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I haven't worked it out that far.. But it's always possible to make a Draco for this new past chart thus have a new Pluto position and see if something's relevant.

For these ones we all have Pluto in Cappy so it's ok. But nevertheless, the similarities are amazing and couldn't get out of nothing .

posted September 24, 2012 05:52 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Aeline:
I haven't worked it out that far.. But it's always possible to make a Draco for this new past chart thus have a new Pluto position and see if something's relevant.

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That`s a good idea, esp. for those who might not have shared an immediate recent past life, but one of some time before.

posted September 24, 2012 06:00 AM            

That is what I found so far (his planets first):

ASC-MC-level
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then: ASC conjunct DESC (3)
now: ASC conjunct ASC (2)

then: ASC sextile Neptune wide (4)
now: ASC Conjunct Neptune (0) and Neptune conjunct ASC (0)

then: MC trine ASC (0)
now: MC sextile ASC (1)

then: MC square Sun (3) and Sun sextile MC (2)
now: Sun square MC (1)

then: MC trine Pluto (0)
now: MC conjunct Pluto (0) and Pluto conjunct MC (0)

then: Mars conjunct DESC (4)
now: ASC conjunct Mars (4)

then: NN square ASC (2)
now ASC conjunct NN (0)

nodal axis
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then: Venus square NN (4)
now: Venus conjunct NN (3)

then: NN sextile Eros (2)
now: SN conjunct Eros (3)

Sun-Moon-level
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then: Moon conjunct Moon (4)
now: Moon in same elements

Interestingly his Moon then was in the same sign as it is now

then: BML trine Moon (4)
now: Moon trine BML (0)

Venus-Mars-level
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then: Venus trine Mars (0) and Mars conjunct Venus (8)
now: Venus widely conjunct Mars (7) and exactly parallel

then: Venus conjunct Valentine (1) and Valentine square Venus (1)
now: Valentine opposite Venus (0)

then: Neptune trine Venus (3)
now: Venus conjunct Neptune (3)

then: Pluto wiiiiidely conjunct Venus (7)
now: Pluto square Venus (1)

then: Neptune opposite Mars (1)
now: Neptune conjunct Mars (0)

then: Valentine quinkunx Mars (0)
now: Mars conjunct Valentine (1)

asteroids
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then: Eros conjunct Vertex (3)
now: Eros trine Vertex (0) and Vertex conjunct Eros (3)

then: Eros square Juno (4)
now: Eros conjunct Juno (3)

then: Psyche conjunct Jupiter (3)
now: Psyche trine Jupiter (0)

posted September 24, 2012 06:13 AM            

- pr Saturn conjunct Draco Saturn
- pr Moon conjunct Venus (4)
- pr pluto conjunct Draco Pluto (!)
- pr Spirit conjunct Draco Valentine
- pr Uranus conjunct Karma
- pr SN conjunct Sun
- pr Mars opposite Venus
- pr Sun conjunct Saturn exact
- pr Venus opposite Moon
[n]- pr Neptune opposite Draco Neptune-ASC-Angel
- pr Angeln opposite Draco neptune-ASC-Angel[/b]
- pr DNA opposite Draco Venus

and using the Draco progressed chart

- pr DR Pluto conjunct Uranus
- pr DR Spirit opposite Karma
- pr DR Chiron and Amor conjunct Dr Pluto
- pr Dr uranus conjunct Dr Valetnine
- pr Dr mars conjunct IC and opposite Dr Karma
- pr Dr Sun conjunct Dr Sun exact (!)
- pr Dr Neptune and Angel opposite Sun
- pr Dr Valentine opposite Spirit
- pr Dr DNA and Psyche conjunct Dr IC and opposite Dr Pluto
- pr Dr Saturn opposite Dr DNA
- pr Dr Karma opposite Moon
- pr Dr Moon conjunct MC and Dr Karma

posted September 24, 2012 06:25 AM            

I am listing only those that got my attention, i did not do a systematic comparision

° pr karma is exactly conjunct his past life´s chart moon and today`s uranus-Moon-conjunction!

° pr Pluto is conjunct his Karma AND Dr Pluto(!) (this is the same I was having: pr Pluto conjunct Dr Pluto )

°pr Dr Saturn conjunct MC-Pluto and Dr Vertex

° pr Dr Mars conjunct Sun

° (LOL just for laughs: his pr Dr Sun is conjunct my natal Moon exact!)

° pr Dr Karma conjunct DESC

(actually the connections of his pr Draco chart to my natal Draco chart border the insane. lol)

posted September 28, 2012 12:13 AM            

Assuming I was born in the same town in this particular life as this current life, I would potentially have had:

Venus/Algol Rising.
Saturn on Descendant
Past life Mercury within 28' of Current Draconic Neptune

When progressing that chart to my current life's birthdate, I may have been slightly off on time, but:
Progressed Mars on past-life Moon (off by 2-3 minutes of a degree)
Progressed Venus on current draconic Moon (within 24'), also within a degree of draconic Chiron

It's possible I was a pioneer? Maybe that's why I feel the draw to the Western US. Or maybe I fought in the Civil War? (If this is correct, I would have been 22-23 around the time of the outbreak of the war).

It's also possible I was born elsewhere. Still, that time, at my current life's birth location, given a past-life Venus/Algol Rising-Opposing Saturn... hmmm.

The interpretation of Venus opposite Saturn seems to indicate difficulty in love. Funny, seems to have carried over into this life :/ I also don't seem to be able to find an interpretation for Venus conjunct Algol. So what did I do in an even more previous life in the love/romance department?

It's interesting, I also feel strangely drawn to American Indian lore... I wonder if I didn't fight in the Civil War, wind up going out West somehow, get involved with a woman of one of the western tribes and get in trouble that way? (Or maybe get out of trouble for a brief while? Hmm... ...this is almost giving me a "Dances with Wolves" flashback...)

(it's funny, I also have some sort of thought of being in California and heading out East only to find that Lincoln was shot. I need to research my history a bit more.)

posted September 28, 2012 05:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
I also followed your lead and progressed my Pl. past life draco chart to my this life birthdate and almost fell of the chair!

The Sun of this past life draco progressed chart is Exactly conjunct my Natal this life Sun!

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The exactness is amazing, isn`t it?
And see how the Draco`s seem to be very pertinent here, too?

posted September 28, 2012 05:41 AM            

"ried this, I have draconic Pluto at 17 Ari 51'02"."
Your Dr Pluto is only 2 degrees off my Dr Sun.

"Assuming I was born in the same town in this particular life as this current life,"
I used my birthtown as well, because first of all this is what I really know for certain, and secondly maybe it might work, since we view the past life in relation to this life?
Don`t know if it makes any sense or is just a crutch to justify me using the birthtown though.

"Progressed Mars on past-life Moon (off by 2-3 minutes of a degree)
Progressed Venus on current draconic Moon (within 24'), also within a degree of draconic Chiron"
That`s very amazing, how it seems to trigger either personality objects/ planets or those relating specifically to Karma (like Moon, Saturn, Pluto, Node, asteroid KARMA).

"given a past-life Venus/Algol Rising-Opposing Saturn... hmmm."
I get the image of a big bloody battle with a lot of people losing their lives. And for some reason that makes me think of a river flowing near the battlefield and the water is getting coloured red from all the blood pouring into it. And I also get the notion of a treck somewhere else following or accompanying the battle. And of course a lot of people lost their loved ones in this battle, on both sides.

That is a pretty ghastly image, but for some reason when I read about that Algol-Venus-SAturn, that was what I was seeing.

BTW my past life ASC is actually near to that on 29 Taurus or 00 Gemini, right on the Pleiades, the Weeping sisters.

"It's interesting, I also feel strangely drawn to American Indian lore..."
I feel draw to the American Indian as well. Have you checked the asteroids HOPI, SOOTYIO (starboy) and SOOMANA (stargirl).
In my chart Soomana falls right onto my Sun on the GC. And Hopi is exactly opposite Saturn.

posted September 28, 2012 11:06 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"given a past-life Venus/Algol Rising-Opposing Saturn... hmmm."
I get the image of a big bloody battle with a lot of people losing their lives. And for some reason that makes me think of a river flowing near the battlefield and the water is getting coloured red from all the blood pouring into it. And I also get the notion of a treck somewhere else following or accompanying the battle. And of course a lot of people lost their loved ones in this battle, on both sides.

That is a pretty ghastly image, but for some reason when I read about that Algol-Venus-SAturn, that was what I was seeing.

BTW my past life ASC is actually near to that on 29 Taurus or 00 Gemini, right on the Pleiades, the Weeping sisters.

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I have... felt a draw to a historical battle. Shiloh. If your image is correct, it sounds like I would have survived that battle.

I did also notice something else that I missed in the 1838 chart: Mars on Aldeberan.

"Great military preferment but attended by much danger; liable to accidents, fevers and a violent death. If at the same time the Moon is with Antares, especially in an angle, death will come through a stab, blow or fall."

Moon was not on Antares. It was, however, sextile the sun almost exact if the time is correct, and would have formed a Yod to Destinn near the theoretical Midheaven. (However, the time/place calcualtion gives that Destinn/Midheaven a 3 degree orb, too wide, but again I'm uncertain of the exacts.)

I also wonder, frequently, what the world would look like if the Confederacy had won that war instead. (I have also had similar thought about Nazi Germany).

quote:

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"It's interesting, I also feel strangely drawn to American Indian lore..."
I feel draw to the American Indian as well. Have you checked the asteroids HOPI, SOOTYIO (starboy) and SOOMANA (stargirl).
In my chart Soomana falls right onto my Sun on the GC. And Hopi is exactly opposite Saturn.

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o.O

Past life progressed Hopi exactly conjuncts this life's natal Venus in my Mars/Pluto/Venus stellium. This is opening up some questions. I also found past Hopi conjunct current Saturn, which was semisextile past Union. Plus, past progressed-to-current-birthday Apache Point/Karma conjuncted my Eros. The Karma progression was 1' off of my current natal... Lee.

Confederacy link? I know they had involvement out west too, and wasn't it the Army of the West/Army of Tennessee that fought at Shiloh? ...I also seem to have in recent months thought more of the Confederate general P.T. Beauregard.

Kind of funny, as I also found Past-progressed Union about 20'-ish from my current natal North Node.

Could I have been a Union Spy against the Confederacy? Or... something else going on?

This plus the potential WWII spy link on another thread....

posted September 29, 2012 12:22 AM            

My Dr Pluto is at 4SAG15... It was in Sag in the 90's so I was already alive
So I had to go back even further..

The last time Sag was at 4Sag15 was Nov 28, 1750(wow)

My first question though, what time do you use? because its at that degree for 2 days.
So Im not sure which day or time to use.
Am I doing this correctly??

What I notice as the same
was venus quinx neptune by 1 orb in both

Also
Now
A leo stellium
then
A sag stellium, and Scoprio

with mars just off to the side in both.

posted September 29, 2012 12:43 AM            

I closed my eyes and let the mouse guide me, I ended up clicked a link.

It took me to google book of Genealogy
The genealogy of the descendants of Henry Kingsbury, of Ipswich and ..

The only person born at this time
was the 8th Child (hummm.. Im an 8)
Anne- born to
Ruth Kingsbury and Jousha Edgerton