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Jovian
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posted December 14, 2012 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm kind of surprised no one has started a thread yet, looking at anything of interest that might be in the "end of the world"/ end of Mayan calendar chart of December 21, 2012.

I find it interesting that asteroid Yeshuhua will be exactly conjunct North Node.

In a program last week, Eric Francis noted that Atlantis will be square Sun, and Juno is conjunct Sun. He mused that this suggested this is a time to leave behind our tendencies toward over-reliance on technology --an obvious Atlantis theme -- and described the Juno-Sun link as a time to instead "marry oneself," and trust ones own spiritual guidance. ...I'm grossly paraphrasing his words here.

Any other interesting observations?

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posted December 14, 2012 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still don't think anything is going to happen on the 21st. Maybe we'll get lucky and the Yeshua/NN conjunction will manifest as people acting less like jacka$$es toward one another...

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posted December 14, 2012 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jovian:
I find it interesting that asteroid [b]Yeshuhua will be exactly conjunct North Node.


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posted December 14, 2012 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inaworldofsong     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jovian:

I find it interesting that asteroid Yeshuhua will be exactly conjunct North Node.

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May I ask what Yeshuhua is? And what you think it's conjunction with the North Node is?

I'm very curious! =)

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posted December 19, 2012 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...Well, asteroid Yeshuhua was actually named for a female Chinese astronomer: Ye Shuhua. However, those of us who have used it to represent "Yeshua," aka Jesus, have found it making relevant connections in charts.

In synastry, it has been noted by those of us interested in charting "soul mate" asteroid pairs to occur with both asteroids Mary and Maria.

Here are a few threads that might give you an idea of the significance some have found in this asteroid:

Mary/Jessie and Maria Yeshuhua in synastry
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001048.html

Yeshua conjunct Chiron
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001005.html

There is also an instance in this thread I started. I found that Yeshuhua was tightly conjunct Maria in the event chart of a mysterious papyrus fragment that was found, involving Jesus possibly having been married.

Jesus and "wife" papyrus found: Asteroid study
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001373.html

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So... If we see this asteroid as indicating a "Christ Consciousness" type of vibe--say, the essence of what Jesus represents; and the North Node representing the direction in which our soul's growth is to be found; then a conjunction of the two perhaps suggest that our ideal future in the coming era would include fully understanding and incorporating what Christ came here to impart.

Despite this being the end of the "Pisces Age"--which some say was the age of Jesus, its beginning marked roughly by his birth--we have not fully understood what Jesus came to awaken us to. There is still much to be contemplated and understood about what he represented...deeper levels of understanding about our own potential, our own true nature, that we cannot afford to sidestep. ...That is my perspective, anyway.

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posted December 19, 2012 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jovian:
I find it interesting that asteroid [b]Yeshuhua will be exactly conjunct North Node.

In a program last week, Eric Francis noted that Atlantis will be square Sun, and Juno is conjunct Sun. He mused that this suggested this is a time to leave behind our tendencies toward over-reliance on technology --an obvious Atlantis theme -- and described the Juno-Sun link as a time to instead "marry oneself," and trust ones own spiritual guidance. ...I'm grossly paraphrasing his words here.
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Thanks for this info, Jovian


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So... If we see this asteroid as indicating a "Christ Consciousness" type of vibe--say, the essence of what Jesus represents; and the North Node representing the direction in which our soul's growth is to be found; then a conjunction of the two perhaps suggest that our ideal future in the coming era would include fully understanding and incorporating what Christ came here to impart.

Very well explained. It gives even more meaning to my synastry where his Jessie conjuncts my NN. No wonder I feel the way I do about him.

Wait a minute!! OMG! Guess what? Your thread has just now helped me discover that my Maria sextiles his NN exact (4 mins!) *slaps forehead*

So it's his Jessie to my NN and my Maria to his NN! What a DW!!

And this is in addition to my Mary conjunct his SN and trine his Jessie!!!

Glad to have found this out before 12/21/12

Thank you for this thread, Jovian!!

Hope Ceri sees this! Wonder what she thinks of it.
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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ moi ~

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posted December 19, 2012 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Linda.

"Glad to have found this out before 12/21/12" The end is nigh. lol

Yes, I love hearing about such interesting connections, such as this--yet another remarkable synastry connection for you. Very cool.

...My perspective on Jesus is, as usual, rooted in my own sense of my soul having "known" him, somehow, in some realm, in some time.... It is my personal sense of the significance of Jesus. Just as it can be said that the Bible can be understood on many levels, I believe we have yet other levels of the Christ influence to understand.

I tend to assume that others who feel a definite personal resonance also knew him somehow.

...Ceridwen did respond with a little smiley above.

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posted December 19, 2012 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it all falls into place, magic happens

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We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek

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posted December 19, 2012 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont really like ixion@19 being conjunct pholus@19
Around 7am central time this conjunction will be on the ascendant....

ixion being the first murdered and pholus blows up anything it touches....not good combo!

EDIT--
Interesting addition here...
Eureka saggy@19.22
Ixion saggy@19.26
Pholus saggy@19.48
Tezcatlipoca saggy@17.48<<--god of illusions, lies, confusion, destruction, trickster god of "smoke n mirrors"...possibly thought to be where name Jehovah originated

Babylon leo@19.09<<---World Empire of False Religion"

Atropos is on fixed star Algor taurus@25<<---on S.node!

N.node scorp@25.37
Christian Scorpio@26.59

Church cap@24.48
Mars cap@26.29

Pallas pisces@25.23<<--divine wisdom
Soma pisces@25.53<<---merging of energies

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posted December 19, 2012 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda.... yes, those connections. Every time one looks, there is more to be found, it seems.

I have YESHUHUA opposed MARY exact with someone I know, with whom I have many synastry connections confirming an early Christian-era connection between us that I had already sensed.

I also just noticed another one: my APOSTEL and VESTA conj her YESHUHUA exact, and my YESHUHUA square her APOSTEL exact.

Sheesh, I'm telling you, Linda...

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posted December 19, 2012 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gabby! I was just thinking about you today, wondering where you were.

...I assumed there were also plenty of doomy asteroid aspects in here. Nice find.... or rather, NOT nice find. Heh.

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posted December 19, 2012 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All at critical degrees

Siva virgo@1.45
Utopia virgo@1.04
Isis trans pluto virgo@0.26

Yes taurus@0.13

Isis saggy@29.07
Sun cap@0.4
Juno cap@0.52

Hades cancer@1.44

Siwa scorp@0.21
Ute scorp@0.27

Neptune pisces@0.48
Hercules pisces@0.48


vertex leo@2.59
byblis leo@2.34(the town the word bible came from, the largest producer of papyrus, original paper the bible was printed on papyrus)

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posted December 19, 2012 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, thank you Jovian!! I missed you guys! Been very preoccupied lately....daughter spent 3 weeks in hospital...shes better now!

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posted December 19, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto cap@8.57
Osiris cap@9.26<<--Isis who is Osiris counterpart, is conjunct sun/juno

Jupiter gemini@8.57rx, very good in retrograde!
falls on fixed star Aldebaran gemini@9.58

Tyche scorp@8.25--Good Luck
Kaali scorp@9.40

hmm, all inconjunct?

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posted December 19, 2012 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Babel cap@17.08<-"Tower of Babel" where ppl where worshiping false Gods, sinning...etc tower was destroyed by God and he confused them by changing their languages so they couldnt communicate and they separated off...original place "speaking in tongues" suddenly speaking a language you dont know.

Lucifer cap@14.07

Nemesis cap@20.06

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posted December 20, 2012 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gabby,

your OSIRIS is conjunct my ISIS on 8.32 Cap and OSIRIS on 7.50 Cap.


WE are both aving an OSIRIS Return these days; well for me this Return is writen in my solar chart, so I guess it might me of relevance for the next year.

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posted December 20, 2012 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
right now OSIRIS is on exact 9.0 Capricorn.

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posted December 20, 2012 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jovian:
Hi Linda.

"Glad to have found this out before 12/21/12" The end is nigh. lol

Yes, I love hearing about such interesting connections, such as this--yet another remarkable synastry connection for you. Very cool.

...My perspective on Jesus is, as usual, rooted in my own sense of my soul having "known" him, somehow, in some realm, in some time.... It is my personal sense of the significance of Jesus. Just as it can be said that the Bible can be understood on many levels, I believe we have yet other levels of the Christ influence to understand.

I tend to assume that others who feel a definite personal resonance also knew him somehow.

...Ceridwen did respond with a little smiley above.



Yes, I did.

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posted December 20, 2012 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda Jones,

I suspect you as well have been witnessing Jesus teachings. But if this is true you def. will find confirmation of this in the Draconic charts as well.


A few months ago I was showing IQ a synastry chart and natal of a guy and me (the guy has the Jesus-Mary connections all tied to his ASC in Pisces) and this is what he wrote backl then:

"Do you know what this is most likely to mean?
That you both were Essenes and may have been taught by Jesus himself or one of his Apostles. There were more than 10,000 such people with direct association to Jesus or Apostles within the first 70 years of Jesus' birth.
They were all connected to righting the wrongs of the Atlantis debacle. Thus, you two are most likely to have experienced this historical epoch together."

I wouldn´t be surprised at all if several of these thousands would be drawn to LL as well.


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posted December 20, 2012 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
When it all falls into place, magic happens



Yes!! Thanks Juni for that reminder. Actually I'm finding this thread to be a bit magical.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ moi ~

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posted December 20, 2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jovian:
Hi Linda.

"Glad to have found this out before 12/21/12" The end is nigh. lol

Yes, I love hearing about such interesting connections, such as this--yet another remarkable synastry connection for you. Very cool.

...My perspective on Jesus is, as usual, rooted in my own sense of my soul having "known" him, somehow, in some realm, in some time.... It is my personal sense of the significance of Jesus. Just as it can be said that the Bible can be understood on many levels, I believe we have yet other levels of the Christ influence to understand.

I tend to assume that others who feel a definite personal resonance also knew him somehow.

...Ceridwen did respond with a little smiley above.


Thanks Jovian!

Your perspective on Jesus is beautiful ... about having known Him in another realm and another time. It reminds me of my dream of Him ... when He walked into the dream, it was like He was familiar, kinda like "oh there you are," type of feeling.

"I believe we have yet other levels of the Christ influence to understand."
Yes, I think so too.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ moi ~

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posted December 20, 2012 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jovian:
Linda.... yes, those connections. Every time one looks, there is more to be found, it seems.

I have YESHUHUA opposed MARY exact with someone I know, with whom I have many synastry connections confirming an early Christian-era connection between us that I had already sensed.

I also just noticed another one: my APOSTEL and VESTA conj her YESHUHUA exact, and my YESHUHUA square her APOSTEL exact.

Sheesh, I'm telling you, Linda...


These are awesome connections Jovian! Confirming what you've already sensed with her in real life. I love when astrology confirms what we're already feeling in real life!

Don't forget to check your draconic charts too, especially in light of what Ceri said about the Essenes.

And thanks for introducing me to Apostel. I looked it up and my Apostel sextiles his Yeshuhua (2 deg) and also trines his Karma (2 deg).

As for Vesta, I forgot to mention, I have an exact conjunction with Vesta and Maria with not even a minute's difference! So it's actually my Maria/Vesta which sextile his NN by 4 mins! And with his NN in Scorpio, can we say Kundalini and spiritual sex?

LOL Same for your Apostel/Vesta conjunct her Yeshuhua, I would think

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ moi ~

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posted December 20, 2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Linda Jones,

I suspect you as well have been witnessing Jesus teachings. But if this is true you def. will find confirmation of this in the Draconic charts as well.


A few months ago I was showing IQ a synastry chart and natal of a guy and me (the guy has the Jesus-Mary connections all tied to his ASC in Pisces) and this is what he wrote backl then:

"Do you know what this is most likely to mean?
That you both were Essenes and may have been taught by Jesus himself or one of his Apostles. There were more than 10,000 such people with direct association to Jesus or Apostles within the first 70 years of Jesus' birth.
They were all connected to righting the wrongs of the Atlantis debacle. Thus, you two are most likely to have experienced this historical epoch together."

I wouldn´t be surprised at all if several of these thousands would be drawn to LL as well.



THANK YOU Ceri, for posting what iQ said! I looked up Essenes and the Dead Sea Scrolls, and everything seemed to hit home even more so than before about these aspects.

I guess the Essenes are mentioned more in the OT except for a reference in the NT, when Jesus in Luke 16:8 refers to the Essenes as "the sons of light", a title which the Dead Sea Sect used for themselves.

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/essene#ixzz2FclWQvm9

Some other bits of info on these ascetics--
~ There were both celibate and married men among them.

~ They fought in the anti-Roman revolt of A.D. 66 as part of a holy war of the "sons of light" against the "sons of darkness".

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Ceri, As you suggested, I looked up Draco charts also--

~ Mine:
Dr Mary sextiles Dr Jessie (2 deg)
Dr Mary quincunxes Dr Yeshuhua (exact)
These aspects are the same as in Tropical.

~ His:
Dr Apostel sextiles Dr Karma -- exact -- by 1 min!!
Dr Apostel squares Dr. Maria (2 deg)
These aspects are also the same asin Tropical.

BUT the Nodal connections which we share in Tropical are not there in Draco as the Node Axis in Draco shifts to 0 Aries.

~ However in Draco there's some new connections in synastry--
~ My Dr Magdalena quincunxes his Dr Jessie (exact-18 mins) ... [In Tropical this connection is a 14-15 deg opposition].
~ My Dr Jessie conjuncts his Dr Desc (1 deg)
~ My Dr Mary sextiles his Dr Desc (1 deg)
~ My Dr Maria squares his Dr Yeshuhua (exact). In Tropical, this connection is too wide (6 deg).

Additional synastry aspects in Draco--
~ My Dr Apostel trine his Dr Apostel (2 deg)--same in Tropical.
~ My Dr Apostel opposite his Dr Karma (2 deg)--same as in Tropical.
~ My Dr Apostel quincunxes his Dr Maria (exact)--In Tropical this connection is a wide (5 deg) square.
~ My Dr Karma trine his Dr Jessie (3 deg)--In Tropical this connection is a very wide (8-9 deg sextile).

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You know this is the very first time I've looked at our Draco charts and I find that in Draco both he and I end up having several planets in Saggitarius! 4 for him and 3 for me.

~ His Dr Mars is conjunct the GC (1 deg).

Also,
~ our Dr Suns are conjunct (4 deg)
~ Dr Moons are trine (exact)
~ Dr Mercurys are conjunct (1 deg)
~ His Dr Venus exactly quincunxes my Dr MC
~ My Dr Asc/Dsc is conjunct his Dr IC/MC (4-5 deg)
~ His Dr BML is trine my Dr Moon (exact)
~ My Dr BML is conjunct his Dr Venus (2 deg)
~ His Dr Pluto trines my Dr Desc (1 deg)
~ His Dr Saturn trines my Dr Moon (2 deg)
~ My Dr Saturn squares his Dr Moon (1 deg, 13 mins)--I don't like this at all!! It's a huge ouch!! We don't have any Saturn-Moon aspects in Tropical.

Anyway, I still have to try and understand Draco synastry by reading more. But all in all I would say, there are some interesting connections. I like the BML ones ... his to my moon, mine to his Venus.

Ceri, if you see anything interesting in what I've posted, please let me know.

Also, in synastry, can Draco charts be compared to Tropical charts. Example, my Tropical to his Draco and vice versa? Thanks.

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~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma

~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead.

~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God.
Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity.
For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly.

~ moi ~

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posted December 20, 2012 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen, Gabby was bringing up the aspects of Dec. 21... not her natal. Doomsday Osiris conjuncts your Osiris/Isis, eh?


OSIRIS conj PLUTO
ISIS conj SUN/JUNO

...Thought that was interesting. Anyone have ideas on it?


"Linda Jones, I suspect you as well have been witnessing Jesus teachings. "

...I had initially included the same sentiment in my posting above...but then edited to make my statement more generic. ...It felt quite apparent to me, upon first encountering you here, that this was so.

As Iq said, there are certainly thousands and thousands who were impacted directly, either by Jesus himself, or by his first disciples.

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posted December 20, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting stuff there, Gab. ...Do you have any other musings of interpretations of them for us?

Oh wow, regarding your daughter. Glad to hear she's alright now.

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