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Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 20, 2012 07:39 PM
It's # 7805. Does anyone know anything about it? I couldn't find a thing on it (astrologically). Yet it's listed.Any help will be much appreciated, thanks! . . ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Jovian Knowflake Posts: 576 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted December 20, 2012 08:14 PM
Here is wikipedia's List of Minor Planets page. It lists bodies by blocks of numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets Following the links to arrive at 7805 Moons, we find that it actually has its own Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7805_Moons "It is named in memory of Michèle Moons (1951-1998), who worked on celestial mechanics while at the department of mathematics of Facultés Universitaires N. D. de la Paix, Namur, Belgium" Interestingly, per the JPL page on this asteroid, Michele Moons did research on the Moon: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=7805+Moons
"In the early 1980s she developed an analytical theory of the libration of the moon that is widely used by several centers interested in analyzing the moon's motion." Orbit is about 3 1/2 years. Of course, this info helps in no way whatsoever with the juicy uses for asteroids that we enjoy here.
...Looks like we'll have to get everybody to start looking up their Moons and see what ideas we can arrive at! Very cool--surprised we haven't yet researched that one here.
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Jovian Knowflake Posts: 576 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted December 20, 2012 08:23 PM
Mine at 28 Gemini in 7th house, opposite my Mercury.I'm going to have to look at how this plays in synastry. I have a feeling this one could be significant. I'm intrigued. Linda, Moons is currently Rx, at about 28 Taurus. Wondering if that is in any way significant in your own chart. It seems that sometimes when an asteroid comes to one's awareness, it is because it is currently making some aspect to our natal...presuming this asteroid just came to your awareness recently.
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2600 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 20, 2012 08:45 PM
From : http://www.scribd.com/doc/5570999/Dictionary-of-Minor-Planet-Names (7805)Moons 7610 P-L. Discovered 1960 Oct. 17 by C. J. van Houtenand I. van Houten-Groeneveld at Palomar.Named in memory of Mich`ele Moons (1951-1998) ,well known for her work on celestial mechanics done at the department of mathematics of Facult´es Universitaires N. D. de la Paix, Namur, Belgium. She was assistant editor of the journal Celestial Mechanics and Dynamical Astronomy for nearly ten years. In the early 1980s she developed an analytical theory of the liberation of the moon that is widely used by several centers interested in analyzing the moon’s motion. Her later work included studies on the effects of resonant motion in the minor planet belt. Her early death is a great loss to her family and to science. (M 32095) Citation prepared by J. Henrard and J. Schubart,the name being suggested by the latter. Personally:
My "Moons" is Sagittarius 1'44 in my 7th house opposite my Moon exact and my asc 2-3 and conjunct my bml IP: Logged |
Jovian Knowflake Posts: 576 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted December 20, 2012 09:15 PM
Hmm... I was just looking to see if I could sense any resonance for myself in descriptions of Moon opposite Mercury, or Moon in 7th house. Eh...not really. Anyone else care to check? Do descriptions of your MOONS placement and aspects, in lieu of MOON, have any validity? IP: Logged |
Jovian Knowflake Posts: 576 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted December 20, 2012 09:22 PM
The Sun is conjunct my Mercury today. No wonder I'm a Chatty Cathy on this board today. ...Thus, Sun is also exactly opposite my "Moons" today. No wonder I'm so interested in it. lol EDIT: OMG ...AND Mercury is conjunct my Sun today. Sorry Linda. Now who's hijacking threads? Ha. Although...isn't the Sun also conjunct your Juno about now? May be why you were all over the synastry analysis today in the "2012" thread. lol
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Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 21, 2012 06:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: From : http://www.scribd.com/doc/5570999/Dictionary-of-Minor-Planet-Names (7805)Moons 7610 P-L. Discovered 1960 Oct. 17 by C. J. van Houtenand I. van Houten-Groeneveld at Palomar.Named in memory of Mich`ele Moons (1951-1998) ,well known for her work on celestial mechanics done at the department of mathematics of Facult´es Universitaires N. D. de la Paix, Namur, Belgium. She was assistant editor of the journal Celestial Mechanics and Dynamical Astronomy for nearly ten years. In the early 1980s she developed an analytical theory of the liberation of the moon that is widely used by several centers interested in analyzing the moon’s motion. Her later work included studies on the effects of resonant motion in the minor planet belt. Her early death is a great loss to her family and to science. (M 32095) Citation prepared by J. Henrard and J. Schubart,the name being suggested by the latter. Personally:
My "Moons" is Sagittarius 1'44 in my 7th house opposite my Moon exact and my asc 2-3 and conjunct my bml
Thank you, ail, for the info on Moons and your own placement. It's interesting that Moons is exactly opposite your Moon and conjunct your BML.
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------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 21, 2012 06:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jovian: Here is wikipedia's [b]List of Minor Planets page. It lists bodies by blocks of numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_planets Following the links to arrive at 7805 Moons, we find that it actually has its own Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7805_Moons "It is named in memory of Michèle Moons (1951-1998), who worked on celestial mechanics while at the department of mathematics of Facultés Universitaires N. D. de la Paix, Namur, Belgium" Interestingly, per the JPL page on this asteroid, Michele Moons did research on the Moon: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=7805+Moons
"In the early 1980s she developed an analytical theory of the libration of the moon that is widely used by several centers interested in analyzing the moon's motion." Orbit is about 3 1/2 years. Of course, this info helps in no way whatsoever with the juicy uses for asteroids that we enjoy here.
...Looks like we'll have to get everybody to start looking up their Moons and see what ideas we can arrive at! Very cool--surprised we haven't yet researched that one here.[/B]
Thank you, Jovian for the links. It's a real help. And yeah, I'm surprised too that we haven't researched this one yet. . .
------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 21, 2012 06:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jovian: Mine at [b]28 Gemini in 7th house, opposite my Mercury.I'm going to have to look at how this plays in synastry. I have a feeling this one could be significant. I'm intrigued. Linda, Moons is currently Rx, at about 28 Taurus. Wondering if that is in any way significant in your own chart. It seems that sometimes when an asteroid comes to one's awareness, it is because it is currently making some aspect to our natal...presuming this asteroid just came to your awareness recently.[/B]
So Jovian, your Moons is exactly conjunct Fixed Star Betelgeuse. That's really cool because this fixed star is one of the best! It also means your natal Mercury is opp the same star, which is also awesome!
Take a look at this-- From--http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001463.html BETELGEUSE[28 degrees of Gemini] This is one of the most fortunate of fixed stars and is frequently seen prominent in the charts of those who have hit the top. Success, riches, honors, fame. Much luck in life.
quote: Moons is currently Rx, at about 28 Taurus. Wondering if that is in any way significant in your own chart.
It falls exactly between my Venus and Sun, which is a bit of a wide conjunction in my natal.
quote: It seems that sometimes when an asteroid comes to one's awareness, it is because it is currently making some aspect to our natal...presuming this asteroid just came to your awareness recently.
Yes, I came across it just yesterday. It popped out at me from a list someone had posted on a completely unrelated thread. Not sure why, but I immediately became curious as I'd never heard it mentioned in the Asteroids forum. Perhaps because anything to do with "moon" immediately assumes importance for me.
quote: I have a feeling this one could be significant. I'm intrigued.
Yes, I think it could end up being significant, if we study it closely. . . ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma
~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 21, 2012 06:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jovian: The Sun is conjunct my Mercury today. No wonder I'm a Chatty Cathy on this board today. ...Thus, Sun is also exactly opposite my "Moons" today. No wonder I'm so interested in it. lol EDIT: OMG ...AND Mercury is conjunct my Sun today. Sorry Linda. Now who's hijacking threads? Ha. Although...isn't the Sun also conjunct your Juno about now? May be why you were all over the synastry analysis today in the "2012" thread. lol
Oh Jovian, I love you being Chatty Cathy
Feel free to come on any of my threads to chat. You'll never be a thread hijacker, imo. Another general astro reason for chattiness could be that Jupiter is in Gemini. Though retro, it is conjunct my Merc. Maybe that's why I was all over the Draco analysis on your "2012" thread The Sun just passed over my natal Juno which is conjunct the GC.
quote: EDIT: OMG ...AND Mercury is conjunct my Sun today.
Yep that ought to do it . .
------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 21, 2012 09:59 PM
What I found interesting about asteroid "MOONS" when I checked the synastry with my TF is this--My "MOONS" is in his Moon sign, and his "MOONS" is in my Moon sign (actually exactly conjunct my natal Moon and his own Juno). This switch is what I found interesting yesterday. Another important synastry aspect we have is that his "MOONS" is exactly trine my Shiva. According to iQ, Shiva trine Moon (the planet) is a positive aspect for the state of "samadhi." http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001561.html I'm wondering whether Shiva trine "MOONS" (the asteroid) also holds a similar importance? Today ... I checked our composite--
~ "MOONS" is in the 1st house along with composite Moon/Asc (9 deg away), ~ 1st hse comp. "MOONS" is at a 3 deg conjunction with an exact CERES/CUPIDO/VLENTINE conjunction in the 1st hse. ~ 1st hse comp. "MOONS" is at a 2 deg trine with an exact MAHAKALA/KAALI conjunction in the composite 5th house. [MAHAKALA is another name for SHIVA]. In my TF's natal--
"MOONS" is exactly conjunct Juno, and exactly trine Psyche. I haven't looked at other connections in his natal. In my natal--
~ "MOONS" is exactly conjunct OSIRIS (10 mins), and conjunct HORUS (1deg) [I have an Osiris/Horus conjunction in the natal]. ~ "MOONS" sextiles PALLAS (1 deg). ~ "MOONS" trines AURA (exact) ~ "MOONS" trines KARMA (1 deg) --So ... there's a grand trine between MOONS/OSIRIS/HORUS and AURA and KARMA. As well it makes a sextile with PALLAS, thereby becoming part of a kite. Considering these aspects alone, asteroid "MOONS" seems to be significant in my natal and synastry. No wonder I was drawn to researching it as soon as I saw it on that list.
If anyone else can find interesting connections with MOONS in natal and synastry, I'd love to see them. . . ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: Hall of Janus Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 22, 2012 02:01 AM
hmmm I'm reluctant to add another moon to my list lol but, I'll check natal - and maybe synastry/comp with my husband later if I am up to it... Moons - 29°30' Capricorn - 5th House ( ) lol cnj - Castalia by 0° & Frigga Sybil Briseis Ptolemaeus Indulgentia at 28° Cap & Pythia Atreus Bonifatious at 00° Aqua tri - Memoria - by 0° Tau & Chiron at 28° Tau & Parvati Echeclus Dante at 00° Gem Astronomia Idea - by 0° Vir & Fortuna Liberatrix Thetis 28° VIr & Maeva at 00° Lib sxt - Asclepius Darwin Kalliope - by 0° Sco & Beowulf Cetacea Melpomene at 28° Sco & Galahad Prometheus Semele Serphina Sesostris at 00° Sag 28° Nymphe Asteria Sophia - Psc 00° Aschera Kalypso Utopia Khufu - Ari Sqr - Chaldea by 0° Ari & Hathor Hatshepsut Oenone at 28° Ari & Ilmatar Nysa at 00° Tau Paris Baucis Koronis Laocoon Cervantes Albis by 0° Lib &Nemesis Gilgamesh Tros Pohjola Polites Wild at 28° Lib & Born Nofretete at 00° Sco Opp - Rudra Skuld 00° Leo --- also bQ my Asc by 2° foggyminded - but checked synastry with my husband~ his Moons is sx my Ven-Ura `1-2° his Moons is trine 1° my North Node and at widely trines my Vertex as well Husbands Moons - 14°13' Libra 1st House My Moons is 2° cnj is Mars lies sxt 2° his Moon and Jupiter squares his Saturn and Pluto 0-1° is 4° sxt his vertex and 1° trine his ASC ----------- that's a lot of connections, I'm actually quite surprised. But, I'm not such a big fan of having -another- Earthly/negative moon even if this one isn't a moon - moon or hypothetical moon... *shrug* I may have missed quite a bit - I'll recheck when my wits are recovered. Keen to see how this one works in more synastry examples~! Thank you for bringing it to -our- attention! ^^; ------------------ ( ´(00)`) ~ ブーブー *water pig* Mercurial-Jupiterian Cap-23°-Tau/Vir 7° Scorpy Plutonic-Martian - Sadge Uranian-Venusian IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5109 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 22, 2012 04:55 PM
Not a clue about MOONS.Mine is on 26 Aries, exactly trine Sun-Mercury in my chart.
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Jovian Knowflake Posts: 576 From: US Registered: May 2012
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posted January 03, 2013 12:27 AM
Well, as I said, in substituting MOONS for the Moon, in descriptions of natal aspects it would form in my chart, I don't sense any cross-over relevance. HOWEVER, I am just now peeking at some synastry. (All aspects within three degrees, and sticking to just conjunctions with planets, angles, and nodes.): I happened to look at me and Mirage, my online friend here with whom I have an exceptional and easy rapport... And lo and behold,
My MOONS conj her SNode and Mercury, and Her MOONS conj my SNode. (Ha...more asteroids to mingle with our wacky Alice in Wonderland asteroids connections at Mercury.) This would add to the lunar connections we already have. Our actual MOONs are exactly sextile. My MOON is on her Vertex, and conjunct her URANUS. My Moon is in her 8th, her MOONS is in my 8th. ..... In a Karmic synastry with another, I see my Draconic MOONS conj her Dr. CHIRON and opp her Dr. MOON.
Since her NNode is at 2 Libra, her Draconic is nearly a reverse of her Tropical chart, and thus my Dr. MOONS also conj her Tr. MOON, (though at 4 degrees). Her own SATURN conj her MOONS exact, and both conj my VENUS. ..... The other significant Karmic synastry partner and I have
My MOONS conj her DSC My Dr. MOONS conj her Dr. SATURN My Dr. MARS conj her Tr. MOONS ...Viewing "MOONS" as a Moon-type energy, I would say these aspects do support the emotional connections already evident elsewhere in synastry between us.
... Well! I'd certainly agree with Linda and Saturnine, in light of synastry, something is worthwhile here. We use every other asteroid as what its name suggests to us, so why not this one?
Hmmm... Maybe I will take that MOONS as a stand-in for the Moon in my 7th house. ...I want something in my house of partnerships, da** it!
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inaworldofsong Knowflake Posts: 94 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted January 03, 2013 03:01 AM
Hmm. I don't know if MOONS necessarily carries any of the same meaning as the Moon, but it certainly makes more significant aspects in my chart.1* Pieces in the 11th House 5* from my Saturn, but I think that's too wide. Trine Venus by 2*, and square my Scorpio stellium of Mercury/Jupiter/Pluto by 3*. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 04, 2013 12:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
----------- that's a lot of connections, I'm actually quite surprised. But, I'm not such a big fan of having -another- Earthly/negative moon even if this one isn't a moon - moon or hypothetical moon... *shrug* I may have missed quite a bit - I'll recheck when my wits are recovered. Keen to see how this one works in more synastry examples~! Thank you for bringing it to -our- attention! ^^;
You're welcome SM And thank you for taking the time to look at your aspects! Yes those are a lot of connections. . . ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 04, 2013 12:57 PM
Thanks Ceri, for looking it up in your natal . . ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 04, 2013 01:02 PM
Jovian, those are some significant connections you have with the people you've mentioned. Thanks for looking them up."We use every other asteroid as what its name suggests to us, so why not this one?" Exactly! "Hmmm... Maybe I will take that MOONS as a stand-in for the Moon in my 7th house. ...I want something in my house of partnerships, da** it!"
LOL! . . ------------------ ~ I have a DO NOT DISTURB sign on my imagination ... because I want to frustrate the twins ... Convention and Dogma ~ The moment I cease to seek the truth, or settle for the truth in the moment ... that is the moment I cease to be a seeker, and become a fundamentalist instead. ~ The truest acts of charity are never disclosed ... they remain a secret between Man, the doer and God. Because Man knows that each charitable act is an opportunity for him to revel in God just as God avails of His chance to revel in Man through every act of charity. For them both to continue to rejoice in each other, Man knows he cannot allow worldly accolades to distract him. So he continues to act in kindness ... secretly. ~ moi ~ IP: Logged |
Linda Jones Knowflake Posts: 1567 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 04, 2013 01:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by inaworldofsong: Hmm. I don't know if MOONS necessarily carries any of the same meaning as the Moon, but it certainly makes more significant aspects in my chart.1* Pieces in the 11th House 5* from my Saturn, but I think that's too wide. Trine Venus by 2*, and square my Scorpio stellium of Mercury/Jupiter/Pluto by 3*.
Thanks for your input, Inaworldofsong. Much appreciated.
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