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3l3n
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posted August 14, 2015 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Asteroids conj Asteroids are not that significant. I would need to see the whole chart, in order to comment.

Look for asteroids conjunct PERSONAL parts of the chart such as ASC, Sun, Moon etc



I see. Well they're in exact opposition to my Jupiter which trines the Sun at 29degrees, if that counts at all.
Unless we only look at conjuctions.?

Thanx btw

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posted August 14, 2015 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not able to really help you now, my Friend, due to being so busy with my professional charts I am sorry

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posted August 14, 2015 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am not able to really help you now, my Friend, due to being so busy with my professional charts I am sorry


No problem. The post itself is very interesting and helpful

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posted August 14, 2015 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you,3. I wish I could do more but I don't have the time now.

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posted August 14, 2015 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have narcissus 13 degrees sag and its on my venus 14 sag in the 3rd house which is RULER of my chart (venus) and narcissus squaring my jupiter 14 virgo retrograde in the 12th house ruler of my 9th house. and echo is just inconjunct my moon in the 7th which is RULER of my 10th house.

i guess people often say I'm beautiful but i really don't believe it neither am i that great of a singer =( in fact i feel so low now because today i went to go sing and this girl is so much better than me but when people hear me sing they say I'm great and i believe so too that i sang great even better then most girls try to even sing that style but in the end of the great things i see i end up only seeing the bad sides of my singing and uglyself nothing else and i constantly have always compared myself to others all my life it has been such a struggle for me to stop doing that i try everyday. sorry to have rant but i suppose the story resonates and its true everyday i remind myself I'm great but in the end of the day i tell myself i suck.....i don't know maybe its just me! =) who knows !

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posted August 14, 2015 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angel

Thank you for your post. I am feeling more of Dejanira in your chart than Narcissus, but I could be wrong.

What does your dejanira do?

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Angel

Thank you for your post. I am feeling more of Dejanira in your chart than Narcissus, but I could be wrong.

What does your dejanira do?


dejanira/pan is conjunct in my 8th house its actually squaring my karma in the 11th retrograde AND valentine in the 5th house. these orbs are exact. pluto in the 2nd ruler of my 2nd house is 4 degrees opposition away from my dejanira/pan. don't know if you'd count that??

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posted August 22, 2015 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I have a client that I am providing therapy to who is extremely shy and her voice freezes on an ongoing basis, she is only able to express herself with ease with her immediate family such as her siblings and parents.

You can even see her mouth tightening often when you ask her a question to get her to open up and practice expressing herself.

I saw this thread a while a go and checked her chart.

Her ECHO squares her EROS by 0d45.
Her VENUS conjuncts her DEJANIRA by 3d.
Her SUN conjuncts her DEJANIRA by 3d27.
Her SUN opposes her NARCISSUS by 2d18.

These are two aspects I have noticed so far that I feel could explain this struggle for her. If I find anything else that can explain this I will add to this thread.

Interestingly, I find that I have a lot of southnode or northnode contacts with a lot clients of mine that I treat. For example, Her southnode conjuncts exact my Venus-karma and my Sidereal northnode conjuncts exact her Sun.

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posted December 05, 2015 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh

My Echo-Skuld conjuncts his Nessus
His Narcissus Opposite my Nessus

I do take jabs at his narcissistic side since we started dating but I have always done it in a fun cute way that is not super serious but raises awareness without hurting feelings, my nessus is not afflicted.

Well as for his nessus on my echo, he does try to inhibit me in my self expression to some extent. He use to try to get me to laugh lower but I always asserted myself and one day made it extremely clear he should never ask me to lower my laugh ever again. I will not censor or accommodate my laugh for anyone, I think my laugh is beautiful anyways and a gift to the world LOL hahahahahaha...Is his issue that he needs to look into and face that it bothers him that I laugh "too loud."

I suppose also my Echo-Skuld loves him in spite of his nessus issues and helps him raise awareness with time and patience of areas that need growth. Skuld helps me stay clear headed and not easily manipulated by nessus and has taught me over time to be more mindful of how I deal with him when his nessus nature is set off by stress.

We have come a long way, the benefits of skuld did not happen over night, it was a learning process to reach a certain level of mindfulness from both of us and we both had to own to our contribution for real change and a turning point to take place in how we handle conflict with each other...

Oh wow His ECHO is at the midpoint of his Saturn-Sun conjunction.

Saturn in Libra @1d11
ECHO in Libra @4d00 semisextiles Eros
Sun in Libra @8d00

He doesn't feel heard yes that is an ongoing complain of his with me and others, my chiron in Gemini trines his ECHO so I suppose I will be an instrument to helping heal his ECHO wound. His chiron trines my mercury Retro which rules my 7th and he does have a healing effect on my past relationship wounds and on my communication wounds. We both didn't feel heard by our mothers, his ECHO squares his MOON and my ECHO-SKULD trines my MOON. Also my mercury retro opposes my moon.

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posted May 07, 2021 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
asteroid Narcissus can have an influence in friendship, family and all kind of relationships, not only love. (of course)

My ex best friend has Narcissus trine Sun (1° orb, I think) and she became quite narcissistic after I moved back in my country (we met in a country and then I moved in another country and her family followed by chance in the same country, it wasn't made on purpose) when I read her post or see her photos on facebook and other sites. and when we were teenager, I felt like I liked her better than she liked me, I wanted to see each other but she asked less than me to meet each other. like Narcissus who doesn't love Echo, a little. but lately she was the one who asked my sister about me.
maybe she doesn't do it on purpose, sometimes influences of asteroids and planets are stronger than us.

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