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PlutoSurvivor
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posted March 03, 2014 09:40 AM
  
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How old is your daughter, PS?
She's 18 now. When I became stronger within and released all worries to Spirit, I was guided into that place of being neutral, as Gabby mentioned above and things seemed to be getting better. But then found a new outlet for her anger by dropping out of college, getting back together with her pimping drug-pushing ex-boyfriend, and by harming her brother. I had a new decision to make. Things escalated and she finally woke me up to what she wanted by punching my jaw out of alignment. So I took the advice of police and asked her to leave or else be evicted. She walked away two days later at her Nodal Return releasing all her possessions, including the drugs I discovered while boxing her things. I emptied her room put everything on the curb for the trashman and told her if she wanted it she would have to find a way to come get it all. That was the most loving thing I could have done, but now I'm the evil mom. The evil mom with a peaceful home and she's learning her lesson of survival. IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor
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posted March 03, 2014 09:41 AM
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What we are doing in this thread is why I love Astrology so much. It can explain our lives like nothing else. It is truly Divine imo
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posted March 03, 2014 09:42 AM
WOW PS You have been through so much  ------------------
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posted March 03, 2014 09:53 AM
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My daughter has Scorpio NN, too, as do I and her father. All three if us have 7H Suns. Innately we must understand each other and need each other to see value in ourselves. Scorpio NN, at least for me, is learning how to trust. Trust Spirit and trust Self. Learning to value the Self in order to have something of value to merge with another in order to gain an exponentially greater amount than could ever be imagined without having released to each other what we are and what we own.
That is an excellent description of scorpio NN!
We have potentially the hardest NN there is, our lives are all about constant transition and growth, we must learn to find our peace n rest in this change, because it will not stop!
If we our waiting for that moment we finally get to where we are going....it's not going to happen because for us our destination is the journey....we must get used to that, accept that and try to make peace with it so we don't hate our lives for it!
All 3 of you must have a very spiritual bond in some way....even if you don't really get why!
I'm sure it's easier to see you n your daughters bond but her dad might have the bond with her that will push her to the rock bottom sooner, be happy that she is getting what she needs even if it looks terrible!
Never forget the more pain she swallows up the sooner she will be released from the burden of needing pain in order to feel anything!
I wish I had an easier answer for you, but I think you already knew there isn't an easy answer!
You were brave to ask this question to begin with, you knew the answer wouldn't be pretty!
If you ever have more questions or need anything feel free to post to me, I've had 38 years with this aspect and I'm still learning how to untie the knots I tied so tightly in my life to ensure I was always in pain!
I guess I didn't realize someday I would be done with my desire to hurt! I'm sure she will use certain avenues like I did to destroy herself, don't be shocked by what she does just take a deep breath and know every step is one step closer to then end! Then send her your love n protection energy constantly!
I'm more than happy to help! It kind of is nice to know that someone else has a soul like mine, for good or bad...I respect your daughter!  IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor
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posted March 03, 2014 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Be proud you have such a strong spiritual daughter that she decided to take on this particular battle in this life.....and in such a big way!! She's got guts!! Like I said, I've never seen anyone else with aspect....but I know the kind of life it gives you, she is very tough and very determined
I am proud of her, as you must be of yourself. I congratulate you for having had guts enough to continue your path and triumph. I look to you as an inspiration and wish my daughter could read and learn from you here. Just having curiosity I looked through some charts I have in my system studying the asteroid Sato and found two others with it conjunct ascendant. One is a man who wrote a book about his own childhood (if you can call it such) with his abusive (to put it mildly) alcoholic father. Now I know why I was drawn to connect with him; having this same aspect brings immense understanding. I cried after reading his book and now know why - we can never blame our parents for the paths we have chosen. We should be grateful for the gifts, no matter how harsh the experience may be, that grow our souls and move us forward in life. The other person with this aspect, is curious, yet terrified of past life regression. As you mentioned above this aspect would have to do with past lives and I believe they will heal once they are ready to see and accept themselves for all that they are. In these two charts there is also a Venus square Kaali aspect and high reptilian DNA. Come to think of it my daughter was always fascinated with reptiles, and dragons. IP: Logged |
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posted March 03, 2014 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
She's 18 now. When I became stronger within and released all worries to Spirit, I was guided into that place of being neutral, as Gabby mentioned above and things seemed to be getting better. But then sound a new outlet for her anger by dropping out of college, getting back together with her pimping drug-pushing ex-boyfriend, and by harming her brother. I had a new decision to make. Things escalated and she finally woke me up to what she wanted by punching my jaw out of alignment. So I took the advice of police and asked her to leave or else be evicted. She walked away two days later at her Nodal Return releasing all her possessions, including the drugs I discovered while boxing her things. I emptied her room put everything on the curb for the trashman and told her if she wanted it she would have to find a way to come get it all. That was the most loving thing I could have done, but now I'm the evil mom. The evil mom with a peaceful home and she's learning her lesson of survival.
Wow!!!
I guess I was very lucky mine was a quiet destruction!
I feel terrible for her, and you also!
I guess what I must say as an explanation but certainly not an excuse for her behavior is she's hurting so much more than you could ever know!! If you've ever watched the movie, "Forrest Gump", the girl Forrest loved....I felt her so deeply! That could have been my story!
She was so self destructive and it was all due to the fact that that's what she felt she deserved, Sado....she is a little girl inside me n your daughter that hates us!
She is trying to get us to see what we are doing to ourselves by ignoring her, our pain that we push away n pretend isn't there! Once we have hurt enough that we see it and we look her straight in the eye and acknowledge her, she will release us from the burden of pain!
Your daughters brave, this is a soul purifying life for her, your daughter has decided to use acid to do in this life!
She wants to get to the bottom of all the trash she has allowed to block her light and love for so long!
I would be willing to bet your daughter has a very strong spiritual chart, because what she's doing isn't for the faint of heart!
No one who wasn't an old soul with a lot of strength could take on what she's taking on and think they could find their way out of it!
That's why I say I respect your daughter!
Does she have any angels or very spiritual asteroids conjunct her DNA, Rudra, Aura or Spirit?
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PlutoSurvivor
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posted March 03, 2014 10:18 AM
Gabby, and Ami, thank you for your support. I am forever grateful.
I think I would like to close this thread and rest on it a bit, and maybe give updates later on. How do I do that?
I will wait in case you have any final remarks. It's very generous for you to offer your life experience for others to be able to heal. Many blessings to you, Gabby, as you reach the final push to end to this chapter of your life. It's wonderful, despite all the pain, to know how worthwhile it is in the end. There is no way you can ever know my gratitude and empathy for your own life struggle. You have saved me from my own self-destruction in worrying about my daughter. IP: Logged |
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posted March 03, 2014 10:21 AM
It's funny you mention reptilian DNA...I thought I had that to!
My blood type is RH neg...I've read they can't find the DNA encoding on earth, for some of our DNA!
I have a very prominent Kaali in my chart also!The guy who wrote the book, if it is an inspirational book...then he cannot be reptilian!
Me n IQ have had several discussion about this, he has found where my xtra DNA comes from, and thank God! Because I thought I was all bad and that's why my life had been so full of suffering n pain!
If your daughter has a kind soul, she cannot be reptilian! She could be bothered by ppl who are and they drag her places that hurt her...but she needs to work her way out if that herself!
Look up angels, asteroid Angel, Angelica, Rapheala, Gabriella, Michel, Oriella, Ural and tell if they are sitting on the asteroids I mentioned earlier...DNA, Spirit, Aura, Soulie, Psyche or Alma!
If I forgot any of the asteroids that indicate your soul add those to!!
A few others... Gaea, Wisdom, Compassion, Devine, Bless, Destin IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted March 03, 2014 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Gabby, and Ami, thank you for your support. I am forever grateful.
I think I would like to close this thread and rest on it a bit, and maybe give updates later on. How do I do that?
I will wait in case you have any final remarks. It's very generous for you to offer your life experience for others to be able to heal. Many blessings to you, Gabby, as you reach the final push to end to this chapter of your life. It's wonderful, despite all the pain, to know how worthwhile it is in the end. There is no way you can ever know my gratitude and empathy for your own life struggle. You have saved me from my own self-destruction in worrying about my daughter.
I'm so happy to help!! To me my little battle is the beauty in my life, it's what I have to share that has value....everything else was stripped from me, but when they did that they didn't realize they gave me something so much more precious, appreciation for just being alive and an amazing story to share in how I got here!!
I have to thank them for that!!
Your daughter will get here to!!! And, WOW, on the authors who had this aspect also!! I have a book I've written n rewritten about my life! Every time I write it I gain new understanding and have to start over, lol!!
But I know eventually I will have all I need the book will pour out of me n ppl who need it will find it! I can't wait for that day!
The name of the book is, "Solitary Confinement" because my life and I trapped myself in walls of pain, it was a prison I couldn't get free of until I faced what was in their with me....the parts if myself I denied existed! The parts I was sure were dead because I'd suffocated them and eventually they stopped screaming in pain!
But, nope....they were still there, they had just realized I wouldn't listen so they started quietly plotting their plan to force me to see them...that's why n how I had ended up in my prison!
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posted March 03, 2014 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How old is your daughter, PS? What we are doing in this thread is why I love Astrology so much. It can explain our lives like nothing else. It is truly Divine imo
I love it when we can find things that in our charts that make such a huge impact and others with similar aspects have similar experiences, for me it really validates astrology's purpose and usefulness! But the big things is sharing our experiences validates each of us personally, that is beyond meaningful!!
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posted March 03, 2014 11:05 AM
Of course, PS. I know even talking about it opens wounds. My son who was age 21 died. When that wound opens, I really go back to the pain  ------------------
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posted March 03, 2014 11:07 AM
PS Would you like to delete your posts or anything in them before I close it. I will wait for your response and then close it. We can open it at another time or not at all ------------------
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posted March 03, 2014 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
PS Would you like to delete your posts or anything in them before I close it. I will wait for your response and then close it. We can open it at another time or not at all
If there is anything you would like me to remove due to the sensitivity just let me know!
Maybe I should remove the name of my book? Hmmm? IP: Logged |
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posted March 03, 2014 11:18 AM
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Of course, PS. I know even talking about it opens wounds. My son who was age 21 died. When that wound opens, I really go back to the pain
I'm sorry Ami! I hope this hasn't brought anything back up! IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor
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posted March 04, 2014 08:55 AM
Nope, let's keep it open and as is. We can close the thread later. This is very healing for me and I'm sure knowing your suffering can be of help to others is comforting to you too - makes it all worth it, and you can be thankful your experience wasn't as bad as others' seem to be. There's more to say. I will share chart aspects for astro learning. IP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2014 09:21 AM
Gabby... You are the forum angel, like a nightingale. The future of my daughter is you. Someday she will be like you. I read your words here to my intuitive friend. She saw 1 more knot untie for you and she saw an angel... A forum angel. It's you. My friend never did drugs but she was profoundly touched by your words. She wants you to know she was touched very deeply. We are here to learn understanding, not changing each other. I'm learning to trust the power of God/Spirit/Creator to such an extent that I must let go others to have their chosen experience. I must be the angel of courage. I need to be strong enough to help her stay alive long enough to reach her destiny to heal others as you are doing. IP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2014 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
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I would be willing to bet your daughter has a very strong spiritual chart, because what she's doing isn't for the faint of heart!
No one who wasn't an old soul with a lot of strength could take on what she's taking on and think they could find their way out of it!
That's why I say I respect your daughter!
Does she have any angels or very spiritual asteroids conjunct her DNA, Rudra, Aura or Spirit?
She does have chart ruler Jupiter in 12H, guardian angel aspect, but this will only help when she wants to connect with her spiritual self. I guess following her urges is in a way following her spiritual path. I think her angels are big and I'm anxious now to look them up in the chart. Is it appropriate to post her chart here? I've never had permission to post anyone's chart here. If not I would be willing to send hers and mine to you via email. IP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2014 10:06 AM
Yes, sharing with people who care is better than holding it in ------------------
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posted March 04, 2014 10:21 AM
Thank you!! That is so sweet of you to say!! That jupiter in 12th is a protection from our subconscious demons, she will be ok!! I just believe she's very strong!
Posting yours n her charts would be perfect!!
If you don't mind would you look at her asteroid
DNA 55555
Aura 1488
Giza 5249
Rudra 2629
Gaea 1184
Celestia 1252
Chaldrea 313
Spirit 37452
Soulie 13226Along with the angels.....I'll look up the rest of the numbers
Angel 11911
Angelica 965
Gabriella 355
Raphela 708
Michel 1348
Oriela 701
Ural 14519 People ask about the last 2....so here's is their information... Angel Uriel
Who is angel Uriel? Experts in metaphysical lore believe that He is the Angel of Peace.
They also believe that Uriel is one of the seven archangels who stand before God.
The name of archangel Uriel comes from Hebrew and it can be translated as "the light of God", "the flame of God" or "the fire of God". Uriel (אוּרִיאֵל "El/God is my light", Auriel/Oriel (God is my light) Standard Hebrew Uriʾel, Tiberian Hebrew ʾŪrīʾēl) is one of the archangels of post-Exilic Rabbinic tradition, and also of certain Christian traditions. IP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2014 10:28 AM
Gabby... You are the forum angel, like a nightingale. ------------------
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posted March 04, 2014 10:34 AM
Please tell your friend thank you for me!!
I esp love the one more knot untied!!! Than you !IP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2014 10:40 AM
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[b]Gabby... You are the forum angel, like a nightingale. [/B]
Awe, thank you Ami!! IP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2014 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Gabby... You are the forum angel, like a nightingale. The future of my daughter is you. Someday she will be like you. I read your words here to my intuitive friend. She saw 1 more knot untie for you and she saw an angel... A forum angel. It's you. My friend never did drugs but she was profoundly touched by your words. She wants you to know she was touched very deeply. We are here to learn understanding, not changing each other. I'm learning to trust the power of God/Spirit/Creator to such an extent that I must let go others to have their chosen experience. I must be the angel of courage. I need to be strong enough to help her stay alive long enough to reach her destiny to heal others as you are doing.
Yes...keep all focus on keeping her alive!! Never stop focusing on that, not even long enough to judge her path for a second!
This isn't for her, it's for you!! When you hear about a road she's taken...let your heart break for her but never harden...not even for a moment! If you do it's your heart that will be crushed, preserve your love!! Feeling anything else will create guilt and guilt eats all your strength! She needs your strength!
I've had many times I was sure I wouldn't live through, sometimes I don't know why I did! If she goes to these places, she can pull herself out! Just stay strong and know there is an end! I wrote poems to help me purge what I felt as I was healing and went into dark places that were hard to pull out of....writing would help pull me out! It felt like I was doing something productive with all the dark feelings, it made me feel happy to know their might be some good from them somehow!
I hope she can find a release also! I don't share them very often because they are all so dark and disturbing, very "Sado"! Lol
Ppl usually don't like reading them! Oh well!!
I want to share them they show how far down we can go and how strong we really to refuse to give up our fight for happiness.....your daughter will find her strength to fight this need for pain to! I'll go get them n post them! IP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2014 11:07 AM
"Suicidal"
© copyright 2011 Aember Shea Grey
Outside, does the sun even shine anymore
Crying, curled up on the cold kitchen floor
Alone, staring through a wall as hours go by
Empty, a chill that runs through you, again you start to cry
Silence, dead quiet sits in your ear
Rolling, down your cheek the wetness of your tear
Beating, so heavy is the heart dying in your chest
Red, so bright against the green eyes you cant rest
Spiraling, quietly falling deeper and deeper into a hole
Numb, a pain thats calmly went out of control
Racing, the thoughts you can't stop in your head
Suicide, the thought of wanting to be deadIP: Logged |
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posted March 04, 2014 11:16 AM
"BLISS"
© copyright 2012 Aember Shea Grey
Oh treacherous feelings, treacherous feelings
My depth your always revealing
My fate your always sealing
Their procreation led to their separation
Their seperation led to my disintegration through assimilation
It was my soul that became easy use for recreation
Time went by so slowly
Nobody even tried to get to know me
Invisible was all i would ever be
To break free
Would break me
I was taught to believe, I was so niave
Troubled, confused, weak, a limp wrist
Ruled over with an iron fist
No thought allowed that wasn't on their list
When my eyes opened wide
The truth they could no longer hide
I saw the lies that held me inside
Oh treacherous feelings, treacherous feelings
They caused dangerous revealings
That bring my soulful healings
So, I run away, all along believing i would pay
Its a sin to turn away, they are my judgement day
Death to the only world id known, I watch everything fall away
Condemnation, it was their last effort to keep me bound
But feeling my freedom, I refused to turn around
It was the unknown that held promises, all i'd lost could be refound
So into the unknown i go, with only a smile to call my own
No possessions, just me, my soul and my bone
Somehow, for the first time, I don't feel so alone
Oh they condemned me, saying the devil I would kiss
Arrogant they say I am, claiming in my ignorance its them I will miss
But I don't look back, theres something i can sense
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