posted March 12, 2014 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
I always encouraged my daughter to cry.Sometimes I just held her forever, till she cried herself to sleep.

I will look for the book at the library, thanks.

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That is beautiful. I always wished I had someone to hold me all those nights I cried myself to sleep. I don't think I'm meant to feel love like that in this life.

posted April 08, 2014 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
I saw my daughter tonight. She looked so beautiful.
I tried very hard not to show emotion or to give in to her demands. So much has healed since we started this thread.

I have not forgotten about posting the charts. My computer is scheduled to be fixed, during Easter vacation. Do I have to use HTML to display the image here?

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I'm so happy you are doing better, it will get even easier with time. I'm sorry she's being demanding on you.

I think it's the HTML that displays it, photobucket gives that option but I'm only using my phone lately and I can't get anything but links to post, so I'm not exactly for sure if it's the HTML that displays it...but that sounds correct!

posted April 08, 2014 11:49 PM            

Reminds me of Stanley kubrick's: A Clockwork Orange lol

posted April 09, 2014 02:18 AM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Why do you guys keep helping the villain and not the victim?

Reminds me of Stanley kubrick's: A Clockwork Orange LOL!

You should try starting a topic about: "How Can I help a person with PREY CONJ SUN?"
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or Dejanira

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posted April 09, 2014 02:52 AM            

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I would suggest reading a thread before commenting on it....not to be rude but this thread isn't about helping a villain at all!
Sado is self abuse sometimes through hurting others but mainly through destroying yourself n your life!
If it your child with this aspect....of course your going to want to do anything in your power to help your child survive as they ride out the aspect n learn the lessons that need to be learned.

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btw, my cousin has Sun CONJ Sado (Orb 1º) also CONJ mars (and he knows it), but he doesn't even feel the 'influence' and he doesn't act like a sadistic person, I guess It's because he's not a water dominant. I'm saying this because he doesn't have 'enough feelings' to believe he's a sadistic person. (As you know, feelings and believings are part of the water nature and he has only 1 water placement). Anyway, he has... 'another problems' and ASC and SUN are quite different.

As you said before, maybe you don't need help, because the strength is already in you
In a certain way, water dominants are the strongest, because they've got 'the faith'.
Good Luck.

P.D. I have asteroid Chaos CONJ my ASC and the only bad thing I do is listening to British heavy metal ( lol if that's considered 'bad' )

posted April 09, 2014 10:07 AM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:

You should try starting a topic about: "How Can I help a person with PREY CONJ SUN?"
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posted April 09, 2014 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Why do you guys keep helping the villain and not the victim?

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I support that Sado is a self- victimizing asteroid. Therefore this asteroid would tend to instigate victimization by others. On the ascendant it would be very obvious and visible how it would affect every relationship in their lives.

In this type of chart, the one closest to the person would show it to them, or rather, it would be perceived in such a way. Here asteroid Prey is exact conjunct Moon as well, so in this case, the person would perceive being prey to the mother figure as well as to their own tumultuous Cancerian emotions rooted in their past life experiences and their own creative urges (sexual or otherwise). The father has strong predator/abuse aspects in his chart. The mother (me) has Prey exact conjunct 10H cusp for all to see. (I was very much easily influenced and manipulated by others in the past and this thread is helping me to heal this with everyone)

Victim and villain go hand in hand. The weighted strength of one will balance out with the other. Unless you have perfect self control and completely stable emotions you will experience both in your lifetime, if even in a minute way.

This thread is about helping both the villain and the victim, by sharing how to bring balance into our lives. One cannot exist without the other, so by balancing one we balance the other.

posted April 09, 2014 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
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I would suggest reading a thread before commenting on it....not to be rude but this thread isn't about helping a villain at all!
Sado is self abuse sometimes through hurting others but mainly through destroying yourself n your life!
If it your child with this aspect....of course your going to want to do anything in your power to help your child survive as they ride out the aspect n learn the lessons that need to be learned.

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Sado conjunct sun won't be as obvious as Sado conjunct AC, but it doesn't mean it's not there!
I would think the most obvious sign of it would be, lacking empathy or not being able to genuinely see anyone past yourself.
Like you said, your cousin dosent have enough feelings to feel this placement...the fact the they "don't have enough feelings" to feel it, that is the placement in affect!

I have only 1 placement of water, scorp Uranus and I an a very feeling person...unfeeling behavior would be Sado hard at work, no feelings leaves someone with the ability to not care, a not caring person isolates themselves n others....that would be Sado playing out!

As for Chaos, she's not all bad! She really nothing more than the gloomy air that mixed with other elements and from that universe was created...
Ppl think chaos has the same meaning today as it did during the times the mythologies were written, but it doesn't.
Chaos

KHAOS THE PRIMORDIAL MIXTURE OF ELEMENTS
Khaos was later identified with the primordial mixture of elements - earth, water, fire and earth - which appears in the Orphic Theogonies as primordial "Mud".

posted April 09, 2014 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
I support that Sado is a self- victimizing asteroid. Therefore this asteroid would tend to instigate victimization by others. On the ascendant it would be very obvious and visible how it would affect every relationship in their lives.

In this type of chart, the one closest to the person would show it to them, or rather, it would be perceived in such a way. Here asteroid Prey is exact conjunct Moon as well, so in this case, the person would perceive being prey to the mother figure as well as to their own tumultuous Cancerian emotions rooted in their past life experiences and their own creative urges (sexual or otherwise). The father has strong predator/abuse aspects in his chart. The mother (me) has Prey exact conjunct 10H cusp for all to see. (I was very much easily influenced and manipulated by others in the past and this thread is helping me to heal this with everyone)

Victim and villain go hand in hand. The weighted strength of one will balance out with the other. Unless you have perfect self control and completely stable emotions you will experience both in your lifetime, if even in a minute way.

This thread is about helping both the villain and the victim, by sharing how to bring balance into our lives. One cannot exist without the other, so by balancing one we balance the other.

You had a good suggestion about starting a thread on helping the Prey/victim. Victim consciousness shows up with those having prominent placement of asteroid Prey, I've noticed in many charts. Look forward to you beginning a new thread.

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Agreed, I think asteroid "Prey" as a thread theme would be great!