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earthypisces
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posted March 25, 2014 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is this supposed to mean? I have it, and the aspect is super tight. Sun in Pisces conjunct Nemesis, both at 5 degrees.

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posted March 25, 2014 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5 degrees is too wide for an asteroid imo

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posted March 25, 2014 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
5 degrees is too wide for an asteroid imo


No, I was saying that I have them both at five degrees. The orb is zero degrees.

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posted March 25, 2014 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://i58.tinypic.com/2468buq.gif

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posted March 25, 2014 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
previous thread, same aspect

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(And, before summerlite jumps in with the dismissal link.........
that was the hypothetical second "sun" that astronomers/scientists at one point supposed existed in the same way Nibiru (former X) was supposed to have existed. Different Nemesis-body entirely. #128 is the asteroid and namesake of an entire class of them, it very much exists.) - I mention this as it seems to have caused confusion in Whaaat's topic here...

Whaaat's recent Nemesis Thread

But, yet Sol is solo, no Nemesis companion...

except in natal charts, that is.

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posted March 25, 2014 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Was your dad your enemy, like a secret enemy?

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posted March 25, 2014 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And why would I jump in to dismiss Nemesis?

If you had known that I was wrong, you could have posted it in that previous thread to undo the wrong and then I would have known.

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posted March 25, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by summerlite:
And why would I jump in to dismiss Nemesis?

If you had known that I was wrong, you could have posted it in that previous thread to undo the wrong and then I would have known.


Technically, you weren't wrong. They're two Nemesum? Nemesi? (plurals....) *_*

I don't need to correct you when you are right as well, right? Just adding that there are two figures (or were at one time) that astronomer's used to refer to as Nemesis, and hopefully prevent confusion. It's a case of mistaken identity, that's all! ^^

Plus, the thread sunk low by the time I'd seen it again. ~_~;;;

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posted March 25, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(two carrots, ^x2, above) ...always going right for the negatives, always fishing for information. *tsktsktsk* *barnum effect & cold reading anyone? ahuuuh ahuuuh ahuuuh *ahemahem*
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(You have my dad's birthday EP, and even some similar aspects, course he would be like 40 years your senior) ahem

I'll give your chart a go!

Nemesis is cnj your Sun so tightly, and they are sxt your Moon very tightly - this is great, giving you the opportunity to put these harmonious energies into actually helping others in a very large way if you choose.

You can both personally (physically) assess and intuitively assess a situation or another person fairly, and possibly communicate and empathize through sharing your own experiences (history); even aid them in finding justice or absolve injustice done to them.

(* I'm interpreting several aspects at once here... not just the sxt btw) x.x

I would interpret this much based on these lovely aspects and placements: you have that 11th house Pisces, Neptune in Capricorn cnj Venus 9th, with Saturn in 11th as well. These attributes would then propel you (imho) into your life's calling, your future... NN 6th house Scorpio, ruled by Libra/Venus - Your Venus is the pillar between two pathways here, Venus is in a state of spiritual vibrancy (stellium), and with that, spiritual wisdom as well as physical fortune can be obtained when/if you decide to go down that pathway/give yourself the raw freedom to express those ideas, share them no matter how avant garde, or bizarre they may seem at that time. That innovation, it ties into your Venus and MC, MC-ruler to ASC-DSC axis.

If you are innovative (and not introverted!) about your gifts (whatever they all are, Nemesis and Moon sxt Sun are surely just one of many), you are sure to make a profit and help others all at once.

This all sounds very good and well, but there are two points of tension, that you may have to (if you haven't yet) work out. (In dealing with Sun-Nemesis.)

You do have it in sq to BML in the 1st, and on a wider orb Pluto in your 7th... I wouldn't be too concerned with Pluto, with every other aspect in your chart, you will probably have worked out the BML-Pluto opp and Sun-Plu square... of course I could be completely off and it will be the one aspect you spend your whole life trying to negotiate. ^^; It depends on how you evolve, and what you decide, ultimately. Where Venus is a pillar, Pluto will be your cornerstone or weak spot.

I like to look ahead (those darn progressions), the best possibility here is that by SR (Saturn Return) you will have the experience of having Pluto and Uranus (domicile) sxt. - By this time, you'll have already gotten a very clear idea of how your BML translates into your personality (1st house), and you will of course have (at least) some idea over what is the most important feature in your relationships with others (7h Pluto ruled, Pluto sq Sun). A lot of this is just a matter of being fair to yourself, accepting what you deserve as much as giving others what they too deserve, honestly and without resentment or self pity. Learning to share what you know and feel, but not all you know and feel with the right people at the right time (I'm looking at you Saturn and Jupiter). Because with these aspects, sometimes you will know better what is the real deal behind something, and what someone really did and deserves... but you will need to put that judgement aside and even when it seems impossible to do, you'll let it go and learn to forgive. This does not mean any harm to you... I mean your life will have moments that lead you (it could be you alone or with a group of your peers or colleagues) to hold the fate of another person in your hands. It could be in law or any other workplace really... the idea I get from your chart is that you will be in charge of giving second chances and forgiveness, but it's not just about your career here it is ultimately a part of your life lesson (NN). That even though you are sure you deserve more, or someone else is undeserving of any, or your greatest inner conflict is trying to be fair, fair to everyone at once.... somewhere in your life you will probably encounter a number of opportunities to use that sense, to condemn or redeem someone in a bad situation themselves. It will be your choice, to choose absolute fairness whether good or bad, or blind justice, and faith. Experiencing situations where there are no right or wrong answers, situations where you can make a dramatic decision on someone else's behalf... it's a challenge, a lesson for you. (You'll master it!) ^^

It extends into your romantic partnerships, your long term friendships, and your business partnerships and career, as well as fated encounters on the road, casual but spiritual meetings...

You'll do just fine though, I bet you have something 5 Taurus and 5 Cancer-ish...
Pluto is probably apex to a greater purpose, and then the same with Venus-Neptune. But, I can only work with what ya have here. =)

That's my interpretation in a nutshell (take it or leave it as you like.) ^^

I'd continue to interpret the relationship between Jupiter and Mars - ASC-DSC - 2nd and 3rd, 5th, 8th-9th houses here (as I see them) but... haha *enuff*

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earthypisces
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posted March 26, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SaturnineMoth

wow...I honestly don't know what to say. I really appreciate it. That was an amazing interpretation.

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posted March 26, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok Was your dad your enemy, like a secret enemy?


No, not "secret". We don't really get along, but no one gets along with him.

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