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yungang_grotto
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posted September 30, 2015 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asmodeus conjunct Juno at 1 Virgo... yep.

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posted October 06, 2015 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Psychopath Abductor Brian Mitchell has Neptune conjunct ASMODEUS exact, conjunct the Sun. This is squared exactly by Uranus.
He also has Saturn square Nodal Axis, indicating huge karmic pressure to accept his dark side.

Psychopath Abductor Ariel Castro has Asteroid PROSERPINE [related to abductions] conjunct ASMODEUS exact, quincunx Chiron exact and this conjunction is uncomfortably close to his retrograde Mercury, within 2.5 degrees orb.

The Prince of Serial Killers, Ted Bundy, has ASMODEUS conjunct LILITH exact. It is as if his ghoulish soul is the sexual product of two dark energy entities.
This dark conjunction forms a Grand Satanic Trine with NESSUS and LUCIFER. Chilling. The ghoul also has Uranus opposition Kaali exact, throwing his Kundalini off balance.

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posted October 06, 2015 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

Ariel Castro, the abductor of girls, has his Persephone square his PLuto. How fitting for an abductor!

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posted October 06, 2015 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My boyfriend has ASMODEUS very prominent in his tropical natal.

ASMODEUS conjunct MOON (2º)
ASMODEUS parallel MOON ('10)
ASMODEUS opposite MARS (2º)
ASMODEUS opposite LILITH (2º)
ASMOEDUS conjunct NYMPHE (0º)
ASMODEUS conjunct PROSERPINA (1º)

Perhaps it's the PROSERPINA that's 'neutralised' the influence -- or at least indicates his having evolved beyond the dark grip of lust?

I find the URANUS/LUCIFER square KAALI (0º) interesting, too.

It may also be that the orbs are simply too wide (of the ASMODEUS aspects) for much impact. Nonetheless, I find the pattern interesting.

... and I just saw how PROSERPINA is also involved. Well, scratch that theory. Orb then. Perhaps, the orbs are simply too wide.

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posted October 07, 2015 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the discovery chart (MOON squares VENUS opposite AMOR, NORTHNODE conjuncts SAPPHO, CUPIDO conjunct PLUTO, PRIAPUS conjunct KAALI, VALENTINE at the Galactic Center forming a GRAND TRINE with JUPITER and JUNO), here it is:


However, it is interesting that JUPITER forms a Thor's Hammer with VENUS and MOON since JUPITER has to do with ethics, law etc...He will be criticized because in essence he feels all is fair in the name of love.

Uhh also he has a GRAND TRINE between AMOR-URANUS-NESSUS and JUNO conjunct Dejanira. Again not a very sexual theme per say but using force to obtain love or a person who manipulates love and has a need to control it perhaps someone who would use manipulation to keep someone trapped in a marriage even after they want out.

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posted October 07, 2015 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I still struggle with the ASMODEUS conjunct NYMPHE (0°) conjunct MOON (2°) that my boyfriend has.

If anything could be so completely cancelled out, heh, something clearly did that!


BC he is asexual? well if you look at the ASMODEUS discovery chart it has EROS conjunct NEPTUNE-MOON and MARS trines URANUS which both sextile Venus so its not a VERY sexual chart really, Mars and Uranus are both pointing to Venus and not to Mars perhaps if it was reverse Uranus trine Venus both sextiling Mars it would have a more sexual theme.

You add Cupido conjunct Pluto and that beautiful grand trine between Valentine-Juno-Jupiter and the sense I get is not so much a lustful theme but a theme of love and devotion, someone who can commit to the person he worships and puts up on a pedestal (cupido conjunct pluto, moon-neptune, valentine-juno-jupiter grand trine).

Now EROS discovery chart has mars conjunct pluto and possibly moon conjunct true lilith so that is more erotic and gives more of a sexual drive! .

Since EROS is conjuncting Neptune that erotic energy from EROS could stay in his fantasy life and not manifest physically.

What you will find telling is that the closest aspect Mars is making in ASMODEUS discovery chart is to CHIRON, MARS sextiles CHIRON

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posted October 07, 2015 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think about Asmodeus conjunct Vesta sextile Juno in the natal? Soft spot for virgins?

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posted October 07, 2015 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
What do you think about Asmodeus conjunct Vesta sextile Juno in the natal? Soft spot for virgins?


Funny you say that, Anomalia. Though mine's too far out of orb, it's close to my VESTA. But it's actually conjunct my ISIS.

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posted October 07, 2015 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These aren't my aspects. My Asmodeus is conjunct Valentine and Juno

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posted October 07, 2015 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any thoughts on Asmodeus conjunct Aphrodite in synastry?

My personal chart had aries Asmodeus exact on my Chiron and 131313 opposed my libra Priapus/Hekate and Sun/Moon midpoint
All of this is 3-4 degrees off my aries/libra Vertex axis...

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posted October 07, 2015 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I went out on a date with a guy a couple days ago
His Sun on my Moon
His Venus is on my AC/Pluto
His Eros/Mars is on my Mars.
His Mars trines my Venus
His Lust is on my BM Lilith/my DC opposed his Venus.
His Vesta/Pallas/Saturn is on my IC/Eros/Valentine/Lust

My Asmodeus is on my Sun/Moon midpoint, which is also on his AC and opposes his Moon.

I don't think my attraction should be as equal as his, but it is. Although I seem to be more in control of it. Would that be my Asmodeus in play?

In comp we have a grand trine
Gemini Asmodeus is conjunct Mars @25(on both out natal Mars')
Aqua Lust@25
Libra Sun/Juno/Merc@26(on my Sun/Moon midpoint and his AC and opposed his Moon)



Gabby, this sounds like the start of a steamy story . Please let us know what happens next.

Where do you find these guys, btw! Whar's your secret, other than your good looks?

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posted October 07, 2015 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gabby:
[b]I went out on a date with a guy a couple days ago
His Sun on my Moon
His Venus is on my AC/Pluto
His Eros/Mars is on my Mars.
His Mars trines my Venus
His Lust is on my BM Lilith/my DC opposed his Venus.
His Vesta/Pallas/Saturn is on my IC/Eros/Valentine/Lust

My Asmodeus is on my Sun/Moon midpoint, which is also on his AC and opposes his Moon.

I don't think my attraction should be as equal as his, but it is. Although I seem to be more in control of it. Would that be my Asmodeus in play?

In comp we have a grand trine
Gemini Asmodeus is conjunct Mars @25(on both out natal Mars')
Aqua Lust@25
Libra Sun/Juno/Merc@26(on my Sun/Moon midpoint and his AC and opposed his Moon)



Gabby, this sounds like the start of a steamy story . Please let us know what happens next.

Where do you find these guys, btw! Whar's your secret, other than your good looks?[/B][/QUOTE]

I second this!

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posted October 07, 2015 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have ASMODEUS conjunct NYMPHE and VESTA. on 0-2 Cap. No clue what it means.

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posted October 07, 2015 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh. My Asmie is at 0 Cap. If you have it there too, it must be a retarded degree

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posted October 07, 2015 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:

Gabby, this sounds like the start of a steamy story . Please let us know what happens next.

Where do you find these guys, btw! Whar's your secret, other than your good looks?


At work, at the gym, through friends and we do a lot of community stuff because my son has autism, we go to group events to help him connect with other kids like him. I know a lot of ppl in other places because I used to travel all the time for work, met a lot of wanderers like me.

The person I just went out on a date with on the eclipse I met through a friend I have not seen in years, we reconnected on FB. She got married and now she wants me to meet all her husbands friends, everyone thinks I need to be married.

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posted October 07, 2015 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have ASMODEUS conjunct NYMPHE and VESTA. on 0-2 Cap. No clue what it means.

You have ASMODEUS conjunct NYMPHE, too? Oh, how, weird!

How do you think it's playing out for you? You kinda know how it (seems) to be playing out for him.

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posted October 07, 2015 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband has it conjunct his venus and it conjuncts exact my Venus and he fits very well the discovery chart of Asmodeus and my analysis on it actually.

He is a devoted husband yes demonstrated by the grand trine between juno-jupiter-valentine on the discovery chart. He is sexual but his issue is initiating so we don't have sex often so even though he enjoys sex he does not have a high sex drive at all. And yes I can initiate but is like he has to mentally prepare for it (mars squares chiron in asmodeus discovery chart).

Now he is manipulative in love and can do and say things to keep who he loves by his side using force in the name of love (nessus) so that Nessus-AMOR-URANUS grand trine with juno conjunct Dejanira in the discovery chart fits well as well as Jupiter thor's hammer to venus and moon.

In the past when I tried to break up he said he would kill himself and was having a panic attack, one time he would not let me leave the house. I felt for a long time that I couldn't break up with him and he wouldn't let me. That is asmodeus; it feels justified to do stuff like that in the name of love!!!!!! and he is not a bad guy, he doesn't realize it, he honestly believes is ok and he is doing what he has to fight for 'his love.'

I could see a women with venus or moon conjunct asmodeus getting pregnant on purpose to keep a guy! and in her mind she is not doing anything wrong just doing what she has to keep her love that she deserves bc all is fair in love type of thinking and you are mine type of thinking.

I feel I say insightful stuff and nobody takes it seriously.

Start taking the discovery charts more seriously guys.

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posted October 08, 2015 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You have ASMODEUS conjunct NYMPHE, too? Oh, how, weird!

How do you think it's playing out for you? You kinda know how it (seems) to be playing out for him.


I am not sure, but having fun is a deadly serious matter, isn´t it?

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posted October 08, 2015 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Since it is hard to read:

Asmodeus: 0°07 Cap
Gilgamesh: 0°43 Cap

Vesta: 1°22 Cap
Eva: 1°55 Cap
Knight: 1°55 Cap
Stonehenge: 1°59 Cap

Sindbad: 2°44 Cap
Nymphe: 2°48 Cap

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posted October 08, 2015 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:

I feel I say insightful stuff and nobody takes it seriously.


I take it very seriously.
So Asmodeus would be some kind of "the purpose justifies any means". It makes sense.
In a way however, it sounds like a watered-down-Nessus, just driven by what he considers to be "love".

BTW you DO know that what your husband did was abusive, right? (even though he may not be conscious about it).

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posted October 08, 2015 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Asmodeus: 0°07 Cap

Only 3 minutes away from my aspie Asmie:


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posted October 08, 2015 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I take it very seriously.
So Asmodeus would be some kind of "the purpose justifies any means". It makes sense.
In a way however, it sounds like a watered-down-Nessus, just driven by what he considers to be "love".

BTW you DO know that what your husband did was abusive, right? (even though he may not be conscious about it).



Yes a watered down version of nessus driven by love, perfect description.

Yes I am aware of that about my husband.

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posted October 08, 2015 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am not sure, but having fun is a deadly serious matter, isn´t it?

It is! But he is a 5H MOON, after all.

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posted October 08, 2015 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
So Asmodeus would be some kind of "the purpose justifies any means". It makes sense.
In a way however, it sounds like a watered-down-Nessus, just driven by what he considers to be "love".

But then it's mere coincidence that it tends to appear prominently in the charts of lust murderers and sadistic abductions? I'm not sure I'm ready to just accept the discovery chart over the data that's been collected -- though the sample size is quite small.

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posted October 08, 2015 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW you DO know that what your husband did was abusive, right? (even though he may not be conscious about it).

Ohhh, my yes. That is classic emotional abuse. I'm so sorry you've endured that, H. I really am.

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