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Topic: Mahalingam - a Vedic asteroid.
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Keela Knowflake Posts: 521 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 14, 2014 11:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Humans who've been around these parts for centuries would have had lives there too, as they would in other civilisations, e.g., Sumerian. I have all three and more. I don't like the term "old soul" as that seems to place one in an hierarchical order. Given that we get recycled endlessly, any attempt to establish seniority on the basis of who came here first is plain silly. So, you having lived in India is not strange. But the fact that many of the Hindu asteroids are on your Asc, must make that experience significant for this life. I'm going to list my Vishnu asteroids next. Have found another - 28438 Venkateswaran. Could you please check this in your chart.
Venkateswaran at 6.36 Scorpio square Ascendant, ~1 conjunct DNA and the same to Nemesis & more the other way around. Draconic V. at 10 Pisces. You missed 21748 Srinivasan (the other name for him there) which I now checked for based on the link. Mine's 24.29 Libra so around a degree from my Rudra and exactly opposite my Jupiter. Draconic Srinivasan exactly opposite Sun and I think I mean to the minute. I see the myth suggests more so the presumptiousness of the "sage" instead of gods needing to bother to notice him. It's not quite "mundanes"/fans bouncing up and down in front of celebs going "Notice me, notice me!" but was reminded of even that. There isn't any other Padma-start asteroid than 21575 Padmanabhan, "lotus navel", so Padmavati as a mate is missing. But I guess people could see what Padmanabhan does in relation to the above. The continuing "What?"s go to that pair living for all eternity & Lakshmi choosing to live in Vishnu's heart, when don't know which avatar of Vishnu's that one was supposed to be. Or how it works with his consorts generally being Lakshmi, anyway. The text makes it seem like it should be the last avatar ever then if they kept on living. My Padmanabhan 14.54 R Pisces As to what you said of the populous sides, see my comment about there having been time enough to do India sometime as well, if talking potential past lives. Egypt's definitely sorted with my Tutenchamun-Sun and more, as well as an interest in it, which wasn't necessarily there that much when it came to long ago history of India. The former is more prevalently featured in Europe, of course, but still.
I'm not that interested in yoga or meditation although by virtue of sex generally interesting people, Tantric sex-mentions naturally made most of us (me or friends known) perk our ears if nothing else. I just have zero interest in it if not talking a partner of mine as the other party, random "gurus" as a sexual partner seeming toward ew right now. DNW, if you know the acronym. Since I'm wary of doing India without a local to show me around (especially after all the misogynist news got prevalent the past few years) - and hardly like anywhere hot either and am a completely wussy Westerner with my comforts - the likelier option for how something tying to the country features is through something more spiritual. Perhaps something tantric, not sure. I may end up there sometime but don't consider it necessary right now. My 5 Tau Sumeria is opposite my DNA, with Ra-Shalom and some others I forget now. Gilgamesh is on my DC and I think Tigris (Euphrates at 11-13 Leo, or Aqu?) was near there somewhere as well. Astarte is 9 Leo, but maybe a bit wide to be effectively conjunct the ASC on its own. Would you consider 847 Agnia for Agni? And the reason why I say people check with IQ for Indian things is that if you just check the Net, you get "25986 Sunanda" and Sunanda name's meanings apparently including "Shiva's wife" as well as pleasing, delightful and joyful person. A common girl's name I'm told, but I have no idea how it features mythologically despite some webpage telling me it may tie to Shiva as well. Mine's 8.49 Sag conjunct my Neptune. Actually, with my Balakrishnan at 29.56 Virgo, I guess that's in the Hara-Samadhi/Nada-Krishnan stellium still as well although I thought it wasn't doing anything. EDIT:
Don't know about Padmanabhan more so, but find it funny that someone with their Sun conjunct my SN has their Srinivasan opposite my Padmanabhan and Padmanabhan 5.59 Leo a degree from my ASC. It's square their Venkateswaran at 6 Taurus which is opposite mine. Robert Carlyle who's had some funny synastry with me has their Srinivasan trine my Padmanabhan and Sun opposite my Srinivasan. My paternal grandparents have an interesting pattern with my grandfather having Ramachandra conjunct Sun and grandmother her Moon conj Srinivasan, as if for two Vishnu incarnations or avatars. My grandmothers have their Srinivasan and Venkateswaran opposite my Padmanabhan. My maternal grandmother has her Venkateswaran 5.50 Sag conj her SN and maternal grandfather his Srinivasan on his NN at 2 Tau. One way or another the patterns are genetic. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4166 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 03:38 AM
Wow I have a lot of catching up to do here!! I will get back to this thread tomorrow!  IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4166 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 04:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: [b]Incarnations of VISHNU Krishnan 22533 Gopalan 7754 – another name for Krishna Ramachandran 20851 Raman 55753 – also Rama Sita 244 – wife of Rama22533, 7754, 20851, 55753, 244 ------------- ----------- ---------------- ------------ SIVA / PARVATI Parvati 2847 Kaali 4227 Tara 5863 Siva 1170 Rudra 2629 Mahakala 10819 Shankar 22817 Mahalingam 18104 Hara 4640 2847, 4227, 5863, 1170, 2629, 10819, 22817, 18104, 4640 ---------------- [/b]
847 Agnia Astrokeen I know you told me that the connection of Mahalingam scorp@29.00 Parvarti saggy@0.59 Soulie saggy@0.21 Union scorp@29. Parana scorp@28.56 was similar to Osiris/Isis or other important soulmate conjunctions....would these be anything special? Tara virgo@5.49 Hypnos virgo@4.44 Ramachandran pisces@4.33
Mahakala virgo@7.55 Sphinx virgo@7.26 Hygeia cancer@7.46 Padmanabhan pisces@8.16 Samadhi scorp@8.27 Pholus pisces@9.12 Balakrishnan scorp@9.34 Gopalan cancer@10.18 Krishnan scorp@11.14 Shankar leo@11.58 Neptune saggy@11.15 Pluto libra@11.05 Varuna gemini@7.47 Mithra gemini@8.29 Ceres gemini@9.20 P. Of Fortune sag@22.58 Siva saggy@22.48 Kama saggy@21.22 Srinivasan saggy@19.44 Sekhemet saggy@18.57 Plato saggy@18.31 Angelica saggy@18.14 DNA saggy@17.35 Kaali scorp @2.15 Hanuman virgo@1.10
Raman is 1 degree off my Moon Sita is 2 degrees off my Venus and opposed Jupiter by 2 degrees Anand scorp@23.01 NN scorp@21.44 Raman virgo@19.37 Ramakrishnah scorp@19.18 Nada scorp@17.31 Tara scorp@17.38 Asclepius virgo@17.09 25986 Sunanda cap@16.30 Rudra cap@16.28 Ganesa virgo@14.41 Moon virgo@18.34 Dejanira virgo@15 28438 Venkateswaran saggy@27.32 Praha saggy@28.00(Prana?) Aditi saggy @29.24 2211 Hanuman 1779 Parana 2367 Praha 25468 Ramakrishnah 16116 Balakrishnan 22533 Krishan 4482 Mithra Quoted from iQ.... Hanumana is one of the Muli-Dimensional Aspects of Siva. Kundalini Yoga practitioners who control Kundalini by identifying the Energy with an Astral Deity are very successful when choosing Hanumana, mainly because Hanuman is least afflicted by Saturn. Infact, in the entire book of "Ramayana", Hanuman is affected karmically only once, when he has to suffer the burns of fire in his tail while setting fire to Ravana's Palace [Ravana abducts Sita, wife of Rama. The whole Ramayana is a Kundalini Myth. Sita is Kundalini Shakti of Rama. Ravana is like a Nemesis Soul Mate of Rama who neglectes his own Kundalini. Hanuman also rules the Air Element, and indciates how Pranyama Yoga with focus on a Deity burns off Karmic Debts and allows free flow of Kundalini. This is why he could communicate with Sita when others could not. Sita wants to be rescued only by Rama, meaning, the Soul is satisfied only by full Kundalini Rise to the Crown, not with just Pranayama.] Anyone with strong Vedic Myth Aspects would have had past lifelines as a student of Vedas like a Max Mueller, or would have had several lifelines in Ancient India. Hanumana conjunct Ascendant would help a lot in Pranayama Yoga. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2152 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 04:44 AM
quote: Venkateswaran at 6.36 Scorpio square Ascendant, ~1 conjunct DNA and the same to Nemesis & more the other way around. Draconic V. at 10 Pisces.You missed 21748 Srinivasan (the other name for him there) which I now checked for based on the link. Mine's 24.29 Libra so around a degree from my Rudra and exactly opposite my Jupiter. Draconic Srinivasan exactly opposite Sun and I think I mean to the minute. I see the myth suggests more so the presumptiousness of the "sage" instead of gods needing to bother to notice him. It's not quite "mundanes"/fans bouncing up and down in front of celebs going "Notice me, notice me!" but was reminded of even that. There isn't any other Padma-start asteroid than 21575 Padmanabhan, "lotus navel", so Padmavati as a mate is missing. But I guess people could see what Padmanabhan does in relation to the above. The continuing "What?"s go to that pair living for all eternity & Lakshmi choosing to live in Vishnu's heart, when don't know which avatar of Vishnu's that one was supposed to be. Or how it works with his consorts generally being Lakshmi, anyway. The text makes it seem like it should be the last avatar ever then if they kept on living. My Padmanabhan 14.54 R Pisces ..................... Don't know about Padmanabhan more so, but find it funny that someone with their Sun conjunct my SN has their Srinivasan opposite my Padmanabhan and Padmanabhan 5.59 Leo a degree from my ASC. It's square their Venkateswaran at 6 Taurus which is opposite mine. Robert Carlyle who's had some funny synastry with me has their Srinivasan trine my Padmanabhan and Sun opposite my Srinivasan. My paternal grandparents have an interesting pattern with my grandfather having Ramachandra conjunct Sun and grandmother her Moon conj Srinivasan, as if for two Vishnu incarnations or avatars. My grandmothers have their Srinivasan and Venkateswaran opposite my Padmanabhan. My maternal grandmother has her Venkateswaran 5.50 Sag conj her SN and maternal grandfather his Srinivasan on his NN at 2 Tau. One way or another the patterns are genetic.
Wow, more asteroids! Padmanabhan is said to be a male - another name for Vishnu - meaning one with the lotus navel. Also tried Srinavasan (another Vishnu name meaning a source of light) Sunanda and Venkateswaran. (South Indian names - extra long because they fused words together). 21575 Padmanabhan, 21748 Srinivasan, 28438 Venkateswaran, 25986 Sunanda They all fit! I now consider my chart as a good test site for Vedic asteroids . Sunanda, the only female here, is exactly conjunct Shankar, and trines Siva. Venkateswaran on SN - I have it TOO. The synastry aspects are just freaky! I need to go and work, so these have to wait. To CONTINUE EDIT: Just noticed the time on this post - 04:44 - The number 4 symbolizes the principle of putting ideas into form and it signifies work and productivity. Yeah! OK. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2152 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 05:17 AM
Gabby, Thanks for the great info from iQ. Useful for Keela, particularly, as she has Hanuman on Asc. I don't recognise Praha as an Indian word (I speak Hindi). So, a link too far perhaps, particularly as we have others in their place. Have to go check Parana in my chart. It reminds me of Piranha, I'm afraid. You do have some more pairs in your natal. For these to be key, they should be close conjunctions, as far as I know. Need to look again at your placements. Good to see these in another chart. Love Anand on your NN - the purpose of your life is to find happiness. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4166 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 05:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Gabby, Thanks for the great info from iQ. Useful for Keela, particularly, as she has Hanuman on Asc. I don't recognise Praha as an Indian word (I speak Hindi). So, a link too far perhaps, particularly as we have others in their place. Have to check Parana too in my chart. It reminds me of Piranha, I'm afraid. You do have some more pairs in your natal. For these to be key, they should be close conjunctions, as far as I know. Need to look again at your placements.
Thankyou for looking Astro keen! I'm posting the meaning for Prana, which to me could be Parana or Praha they are both relatively close to the spelling or sound. Honestly though, I haven't look at all these Vedic asteroids in many charts or been familiar enough with the Gods and their avatars to understand them. But Prana is a word I'm familiar with, due to my mediation practices and learning the meaning behind the words used. 1779 Prana--Sanskrit word; life force, or vital energy, particularly the breath Prana (प्राण, prāṇa) is the Sanskrit word for "life force"; in yoga, Oriental medicine, and martial arts, the term refers to a cosmic energy believed to come from the sun and connecting the elements of the universe. The universal principle of energy or force, responsible for the body's life, heat and maintenance, prana is the sum total of all energy that is manifest in the universe. This life energy, prana (प्राण has been vividly invoked and described in Vedas. In Ayurveda, tantra and Tibetan medicine "praṇā vāyu" is the basic vāyu (wind, air) from which all the other vāyus arise. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4738 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 15, 2014 06:50 AM
The Vedic Asteroids like Venkateswaran and Padmanabhan which are derivations of the core Vedic Asteroid like Vishnu or Hanuman, Rudra and Mahakala which are derivatives of Siva, will be more effective in people who are currently experiencing life as Hindus or have been born in India or are living in India. The derivatives can also be used to pinpoint past lifetimes or locations in Ancient India. Like those with Saturn conjunct Padmanabha may have lived in Ancient Kerala in South India. But Asteroid Parana will be useful for everyone, just as Samadhi, Kaali and Ganesa due to the Universal Nature of Kundalini Energy. And for those in South America, Asteroid Parana might take precedence as a reference to the river in Argentina and Brazil. When a river is named after "Prana", imagine the richness, and indeed, South America is the richest Continent in terms of biodiversity. I have HANUMAN conjunct North Node. And PARANA is conjunct SPIRIT and DNA exact, opposed by Neptune exact. ------------------ Astrology Articles New Services and short readings IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4166 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 07:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: The Vedic Asteroids like Venkateswaran and Padmanabhan which are derivations of the core Vedic Asteroid like Vishnu or Hanuman, Rudra and Mahakala which are derivatives of Siva, will be more effective in people who are currently experiencing life as Hindus or have been born in India or are living in India. The derivatives can also be used to pinpoint past lifetimes or locations in Ancient India. Like those with Saturn conjunct Padmanabha may have lived in Ancient Kerala in South India. But Asteroid Parana will be useful for everyone, just as Samadhi, Kaali and Ganesa due to the Universal Nature of Kundalini Energy. And for those in South America, Asteroid Parana might take precedence as a reference to the river in Argentina and Brazil. When a river is named after "Prana", imagine the richness, and indeed, South America is the richest Continent in terms of biodiversity. I have HANUMAN conjunct North Node. And PARANA is conjunct SPIRIT and DNA exact, opposed by Neptune exact.
Thank you for the explanation iQ, it makes better sense now!
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KarmicMoon Knowflake Posts: 259 From: Moon, Milky Way Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 15, 2014 09:27 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Astro keen: [B]Keela, Given that both ancient India and Egypt were populous civilisations that spanned several thousands of years, it is no wonder that both feature as themes in many charts. Humans who've been around these parts for centuries would have had lives there too, as they would in other civilisations, e.g., Sumerian. I have all three and more. I don't like the term "old soul" as that seems to place one in an hierarchical order. Given that we get recycled endlessly, any attempt to establish seniority on the basis of who came here first is plain silly.
You having had a past life/s in India is not strange. But the fact that many of the Hindu asteroids are on your Asc, must make that experience significant for this life. Astro Keen, What you said here interested me. I've been thnking about how these asteroids work. I agree that these probably represent past lives and can help identify people who may have lived them with us. But what about when they seem to be active in transits? When I did a first meeting chart with the person I believe I have had past lives with in India, asteroids like Kaali, Siva and Parvati were active. Same with Egyptian asteroids. Do you think the energy of those lives are still active? Karma from that era? We bring out those energies in each other? I primarily looked at the soulmate pairings. Thank you for posting the numbers. I am still working on checking them. I have tightened up my asteroids closer to a 2 degree orb as well. I ran a composite with some Vedic asteroids and I found Mahalingam 5 46 Aries cj Parvati 3 54 Aries. Siva was at 3 54 Scorpio inconjuncting Parvati exact. Soma squared Mahalingam/Parvati at 5 38 Cancer and Karma trined it at 4 03 Leo. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 521 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 09:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Gabby, Thanks for the great info from iQ. Useful for Keela, particularly, as she has Hanuman on Asc. I don't recognise Praha as an Indian word (I speak Hindi). So, a link too far perhaps, particularly as we have others in their place. Have to go check Parana in my chart. It reminds me of Piranha, I'm afraid.
Shows you didn't read my Hanuman-link. IQ said that to me there. The link to Jovian's post about the Krishna-asteroids was also somewhere there, didn't want to copy-paste twice. The practical applications to people not doing yoga seem nil though. As for Praha, it's the capital of Czech (whatever the spelling of that). Prague in English. Not applicable. Parana I have on or near my IC, just before it, somewhere around the SGC (1-2 Libra, I forget where precisely Parana was) - so while I may have criticism for spellings (Kaali and more), it's the closer one if people specifically need a "prana" one before there is a verbatim version. Given's IQ's text about Hanuman and the prana-something-yoga earlier on, I wasn't particularly surprised to see that Parana was somewhere like that in my chart, I guess. Add one n (paranna) and in Finnish it'd mean "heal", but the pronunciation is nowhere near so no Finn would auto-think it for the heal-verb without the other n. It's as if a command as "Paranna", "You heal (this person now)" or something such. "Parannu" would be "You heal (you person I'm saying it to)", à la heal fast wishes. I should stop straying from the topic, but I guess information-sharing is the default with a Wikipedia-MC and as seen with the Padmanabhan thing, unless you know the language or names, you won't know if it's for a man or about linguistic quirks ambushing you. Good to hear you speak Hindi though, AK. Seems helpful with these. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2152 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 09:44 AM
Yes Keela, I haven't been good at reading throughly. Catch these posts between doing bits of work and can't resist skimming through. Wiki on MC! Glad you are around. I must have an asteroid about being precise with words prominent somewhere . Need to get over my disgust with the way Parana is spelt. Being a Hindi speaker is making me extra picky. So, won't even consider Praha.If you have Prana on the SGC and Hanuman on your Asc, then that points to your potential to advance spiritually with the use of pranayama, or by focusing on the breath in Meditation. Will go look for the links in your earlier posts. I think Mahalingam is quite high up in the hierarchy of core and derivations. It seems to be linked with Parvati in nearly all the charts I have heard of or tried. Basically, this boils down to - try everything in your chart and if they don't form interesting aspects, it's OK. It mostly means that you aren't or weren't an Indian. And if they are prominent, then they could be alluding to your spiritual life or your Indian life. Hmmm... @ KarmicMoon - re transits - It makes as much sense for the energy of transits to be active as it does for the placements in your natal. The core asteroids which denote Kundalini, as iQ said, have relevance for all in all ages. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 521 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 10:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Wow, more asteroids! Sunanda, the only female here, is exactly conjunct Shankar, and trines Siva. EDIT: Just noticed the time on this post - 04:44 - The number 4 symbolizes the principle of putting ideas into form and it signifies work and productivity. Yeah! OK.
You left out Agni/Agnia from your list. While not directly related to Shiva or Vishnu per se, it seems an interesting one to have with the lists incorporating Varuna as well. I checked for a Swama/Svama or whatever the name of his partner was but there wasn't anything to go for that just now. Fire. When trying to see for Sunanda on wiki, the main useful article seems to be the one below with talk of Sati more so. The article on the mountain peaks of (Su)Nanda Devi brings up goddesses Nanda and Sunanda but doesn't offer much more information to a layperson. What's quoted below offers potential for the use of Sunanda for another Parvati-Kaali-Tara-Satie like asteroid. I've always liked Durga but I guess the skies aren't ready for her yet. Sekhmet seems an Egyptian goddess with some similarities, so again my Parvati-Mahalingam conjunct Sekhmet conjunct Pluto is amusing. "The Himalaya have also been personified as the god Himavat, the God of snow, who is mentioned in the Mahabharata. He is father of Ganga and Saraswati, that became rivers, and Parvati an avatar of the great Mother Goddess Durga, who married Shiva and the goddesses Nanda and Sunanda who too are avatars or close spiritual associates of the goddess Durga." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugandha_Shaktipeeth And yes, more asteroids. This is how you end up with those "I never heard of that one before" asteroids you said I often had. Passing time by poking at the asteroid list and reading Wiki-articles on mythologies and more leads you to interesting things and we've already fed each other here for new leads so any focus and talk leads to more discoveries. EDIT: Sunanda, embodiment of divine love. The text seems to suggest she'd be more tied to Lakshmi. http://nainitalgoddess.blogspot.com/2012/11/sunanda-goddess.html "In the beautiful Kumaon region of India, goddess Sunanda recognized as a goddess sister and close companion of goddess Nanda, has been worshipped since ancient times. She is a local representation of the Great Mother Goddess. Recognised as a sister of Mother Goddess, goddess Sunanda may also be regarded as a mother goddess or she may be regarded as a loving motherly aunt. Like most aunts she is ever kind and loving unlike mother who can punish her children at times. The loving goddess Sunanda is more likely to just inform mother or another god about a mischievous being in the universe rather than act herself. It is because of this reason that although we have stories of Mother Goddess Durga assuming fearful forms to destroy demonic beings, we do not come across such accounts about goddess Sunanda. Those who are uncomfortable with fearful avatars of Shakti may choose to develop a realtionship with her gentle sister Sunanda instead." With the Tara and Tarini sisters the thought of the asteroids Tara and 5370 Taranis arises again, although Taranis is the male god of thunder and wheel from more European regions, so not something to borrow for Tarini lightly at all. I just always found it interesting that I had Taranis on my ASC and Tara so closely after it with the 2,5-3 degree difference only. In any case, my Tara is 1 trine my Sunanda. Funny thing is, I've seen something like the mountain with the two tops back around two years ago. Didn't know which mountain it'd be but the shape fits what saw, same as one angle of Mt. Shasta would have as well. Hard to say. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 521 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 10:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Yes Keela, I haven't been good at reading throughly. Catch these posts between doing bits of work and can't resist skimming through. Wiki on MC! Glad you are around. I must have an asteroid about being precise with words prominent somewhere . Need to get over my disgust with the way Parana is spelt. Being a Hindi speaker is making me extra picky. So, won't even consider Praha.I think Mahalingam is quite high up in the hierarchy of core and derivations. It seems to be linked with Parvati in nearly all the charts I have heard of or tried.
No worries. I figure I seem obnoxious with my "But it isn't spelled like thaaat!" repetitions as of late so it's good if someone else occasionally reacts to spellings, too. Seems I brought up the "But Kaali means cabbage!" and Innanen-spelling thing on the death-asteroids thread or somewhere, not here. I know English speakers go by how it sounds to them by their imagined pronunciation so I understand why some things get used, but for example, Praha is so tied to Czech it's a no from me at least when it's another country and continent. I had the longest time of having to get over my indignation at associating the goddess Kali to something like the word for cabbages. (See: "kale" in vegetable-words if you like.) It's still a no if thought of more so, brh, but of course it's used because it is what there is in asteroids. I'm not too keen on Parana's spelling for prana either if asked, but I can see why it'd work with the English pronunciations. But also for your piranha, especially with the river IQ brought up. If it works for people, I have to live with it. It is what it is and works if it works. Wikipedia-MC also showed up when I was honestly thinking that ppl IRL would want their facts right when spouting something completely wrong about Zeus (whom I considered to be general knowledge for Europeans at least). I had a book upstairs which I could use to illustrate the point or show what was what. I later reflected that maybe there were people who didn't appreciate being factually corrected in discussions, and heard that the person's comment had been that I was "scarily intelligent". Which wasn't the case, just that I had a particular piece of info that I thought anyone would want to have right instead of continuing with the wrong one. It's not always useful in relating to ppl, that is. There's that "But, but, wroooooong. LOOK, FACT, or fact at least as the current knowledge stands. Tell me more if you can". If you see Mahalingam with Parvati a lot, there's the earlier mentioned question of if they move in relative synch like those Echnaton and Horus and such asteroids which are always conjunct (or at most some 20-30 degreees from each other if talking the general pattern with linked asteroids like these?). Always near each other at least in the last century or so. If they move in synch the conjunction would feature in practically every chart.
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Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2152 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 11:20 AM
Mahalingam and Parvati are not close in my chart. The aspects seen include trines, sextiles and conjunctions. So their orbits are not in sync. I intend to list all of mine soon.I am fascinated with my Son's aspects for the moment: Mahalingam conjunct Asc Sita conjunct Sun exact - at a critical degree - 22 in Libra. Siva and Shankar conjunct Mercury Rudra conj Mahakala These are just to begin with. What could Sita conj Sun in a guy's chart mean? IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 521 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 11:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Mahalingam conjunct Asc Sita conjunct Sun exact - at a critical degree - 22 in Libra. Siva and Shankar conjunct Mercury Rudra conj MahakalaThese are just to begin with. What could Sita conj Sun in a guy's chart mean?
Perhaps he will find someone to be Sita for him at some stage? At ease with her sort? Since I'm fond of patterns, I'd be looking for a partner with their Rama conjunct Sun or Moon in turn then eventually. Sita's faithful although people seemed to cast doubt on her virtue after she got rescued from what I recall, but I haven't particularly considered her traits personally. Thanks for clarifying on the Mahalingam-Parvati aspects. Also, my father had Parvati conjunct his ASC and I'm pretty sure little of her ever showed in or with him. Where it came into play was when my mother's Shiva (or one of the male gods, I forget which) parked there as well. The family hotspot also had my brother's Tara and my Shankar, whatever the reasons. Goddesses for the men, gods for the female line. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2152 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 11:37 AM
I am wondering whether some of these deity names aspecting planets or angles implies that these points are protected. Similar to having any spiritual asteroids there, such as angel, or a fixed star.For example, I have Sita conjunct Uranus. My younger son has Raman precisely on Jupiter - which could be very lucky for him. I have most of Gabby's and your placements, which I could add to my collection to see if any patterns emerge. The info on your Dad's Parvati aspecting Siva in your mum's chart is cool. Very useful to know. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 521 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 01:24 PM
Well, I listed more such asteroid hits in other threads but didn't want to spam this one with repeating them as said earlier. I think my paternal grandfather had Kaali conjunct Algol and more such things being in the lineage, for example, so I can get you an actual link if looking for family patterns as well. I think my mother had Balakrishnan 2 degrees after her ASC, but I've checked so much the past few days I'm not sure if it was that or one of the other new ones here. Nor recall what else she may have had previously, that being one reason why I list a lot of things while here, to have some chance of locating things like that via a search if nothing else. Their Rama-Sita contact was through Ramakrishna like I said on page one, but with the Parvati-ASC for father's side, of course a "prerequisite" of sorts was there as well. They also have Psyche opposite Eros but with a quite Uranian chart and given their interactions, I'd hardly call them particularly "docile" sort of love-mates in the long run. I consider Hanuman "protective" of sorts I guess, so nothing against your idea. Then again, I have Karma square Nodes, so maybe I need a Karma-Houdini protector like Hanuman somewhere, too. I just don't know how my Ramakrishnan with Pluto works with that, if I also have Chernobyl there as well. Magnanimity, Merman, Columbia, I forget what all else I had there. If you actually need something, there's a chance of giving me your email so I can email you my details for easier checking up on things. I'm popping out for shopping now but will be back. Or if I know you're around later, I can put up my DOB for a minute or two and edit out when you tell me you have it. Email may work better if you want family lineage details as well. *shrug* "I have most of Gabby's and your placements, which I could add to my collection to see if any patterns emerge.
The info on your Dad's Parvati aspecting Siva in your mum's chart is cool. Very useful to know." IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2152 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 01:59 PM
I would like just planets, angles and Vedic placements, unless there is an exact conjunction with something you that you think might be useful. Please add the main spiritual asteroids - Spirit, Angel, Horus, Logos. If I ask for all, I'll get lost. IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 521 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 02:37 PM
Got it. Now of course this may take me a while knowing me, hence suggesting I give you the dates for you to check at your leisure, but I can list what I recall or do some extra checks I guess.EDIT: Email sent. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2152 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 04:33 PM
@ Gabby,Thanks for the alert on Parana. Or I wouldn't have known about it. You have a big stellium of Vedic asteroids in Scorpio, also Raman on your Moon (pointing to the most exalted place in your chart), Anand on NN and a conjunction with an orb of 2 degrees between Tara and Mahakala. This is not dissimilar to the conjunction between Parvati and Mahalingam. Mahalingam, though, is together with Parana, whilst Union between ties the knot with Parvati. This, in my view, makes this pairing very significant, with an added spiritual meaning. Mastery of breath is connected to the merging of male and female energies and the divine union between Shiva and Shakti. Re Moon conjunct Raman, and as in the examples Keela gave, it could be that the male asteroid on your moon links with a female asteroid, Raman to Sita, in your SM/TF's chart. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4166 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 05:14 PM
Astro keen, you listed these in the "asteroid couples" thread....are there asteroids for each of these? I can't pull up the asteroid list to check on them.Siva + Parvati Brahman + Saraswati Vishnu + Lakshmi IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 521 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 05:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Astro keen, you listed these in the "asteroid couples" thread....are there asteroids for each of these? I can't pull up the asteroid list to check on them.Siva + Parvati Brahman + Saraswati Vishnu + Lakshmi
There is no asteroid for Lakshmi (unless you want to stretch as far as Loczy or whatever such was closest in sound but has nothing to do with her). Satie may or may not work also for her, since the goddess names listed are numerous as well and there is some overlap on the Sati-sides. Brahman and Saraswati also don't have asteroids, or at least didn't a while back when checked. The closest looks to be 4140 Branham and the sound is vastly different. Brahms and Bramante are off the chart as the composer and Renaissance architect. 29982 Sarahwu (Sarah Wu) is the closest to Sarasvati. EDIT: Adding in the other male-female asteroid-planet synastry example that Astro keen alluded to but which I mentioned only in my email. With my parents they have: HER Uranus conjunct her Siva and Raman. This conjuncts HIS Parvati-Ascendant. She married a man with HIS Uranus conjunct his Sita, but HER Kaali-Ramakrishna is also "coincidentally" 1-2 degrees from his Uranus-Sita. Uranus-Sita and Uranus-Raman on top of the Siva-Parvati basic contact. She had the Uranus-Siva and his Uranus conjuncts her Kaali on top. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 2152 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 05:29 PM
Nope. I listed the ones which have asteroids in the latest threads in bold . Or it may not be showing up on your phone. I listed the 6 to illustrate who pairs with whom. We only have Shiva, Parvati, and Vishnu asteroids. But Sita, wife of an incarnation of Vishnu, could be a stand in for Lakshmi. Brahma, for some strange reason, is not worshipped. There are no temples in his name. It's no wonder he doesn't have an asteroid named after him. I am averse to using close sounding words. That really confuses the meanings and since there are plenty of Vedic god asteroids, to limit their number would be helpful. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4166 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 05:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: @ Gabby,Thanks for the alert on Parana. Or I wouldn't have known about it. You have a big stellium of Vedic asteroids in Scorpio, also Raman on your Moon (pointing to the most exalted place in your chart), Anand on NN and a conjunction with an orb of 2 degrees between Tara and Mahakala. This is not dissimilar to the conjunction between Parvati and Mahalingam. Mahalingam, though, is together with Parana, whilst Union between ties the knot with Parvati. This, in my view, makes this pairing very significant, with an added spiritual meaning. Mastery of breath is connected to the merging of male and female energies and the divine union between Shiva and Shakti. Re Moon conjunct Raman, and as in the examples Keela gave, it could be that the male asteroid on your moon links with a female asteroid, Raman to Sita, in your SM/TF's chart.
My Raman virgo@19.37 His Siva gemini@18.20(only tight aspect I could find)
His Rama gemini@15.50 My Sita libra@16.40 My Psyche gemini@15.56 In Draco synastry... My Raman cap@27.33 My Moon cap@26.52 His Sita cap@24.56 His Sun taurus@23.21 My Rudra taurus@24.45 His Gopalan taurus@22.38 His Trop Mahalingam taurus@22.37 His Rudra cancer@24.45 His Trop Mahakala cancer@27.37 His Trop Padmanabhan cap@27.33 My Trop Aura cancer @27.07 My Trop Unitas cap@24.48 My Trop Vibhuti cancer@25.30 My Trop Vishnu cap@25 My Draco Hara pisces@25.54 My Draco Ramakrishnan pisces@27.35 His Trop Juno pisces@26.18 His Trop Aditi scorp@20.43 My Trop Anand scorp@23.00 My NN scorp@21.44 His NN pisces@10 My Padmanabhan pisces@8 His Anand is on my Vertex and Vibhuti is on my Anti-Vertex conjunct my Destin
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posted July 15, 2014 06:09 PM
Additionally his Sunanda gemini@28.45 on my Mars gemini@29.33 My Venkateswaran saggy@27.32My Sunanda cap@16.30 on his AC cap@13.53 His Venkateswaran Taurus @22.29 my SN taurus @21.44 IP: Logged | |