posted August 07, 2014 08:15 PM
AstroKeen!Please go over links above and start a Priapus thread in the Lindaland Library and post on it the valuable info you find on those threads like:
"I found a short article on Lilith and Priapus, but it`s in German. (http://www.astrologieschule-heiligenhaus.de/lilith.htm)
It sais that Lilith is the point of fascination,where a person feels the emotional urge to grow beyond themselves. It`s the point where a person has much power, but often decides to suppress the power. Or she exaggerates the urge to be independent, which often forces her to be distant to other people.
Priapus now is a point, where you feel rather powerless. But at this point you have a strong capability and longing to merge with others, to feel for them, to develop empathy and basically it`s the point where oyu can adapt to others to the point of losing yourself.
Priapus is also the god of health and fertility (son of Venus and Bacchus / Dionysos). And it seems, according to mythology, he was having a constant erection. Well, what could you expect of a God, who is son of the goddess of erotic love and the god of extasy? lol
But I think it just symbolizes that he is very much in touch with the earth, with all instincts, with a strong desire to merge and become ONE with earth / life.
Maybe the difference between Lilith and Priapus is like this:
Both are driven by very strong desires.
But Lilith demands to be equal, independent, to voluntarily turn to someone, or else she will repell or be repelled. She can`t make any compromises. In the best sense she`s painfully truthful, and she makes great sacrifices (like being rejected from society) to maintain her independence.
Priapos on the other hand has such a great need to merge, that he will sacrifice the truth for it. He will make any compromises that are necessary to be close to someone. But since PRiapos is also a male God, he seems to be also prone to become sexually violent or absusive, to force closeness to his "object of affection".
At least the myth tell about him attempting to rape at least two goddesses / nymphs. But everytime the rape has been interrupted, before it could be done, and Priapus has been kicked out.
He is a nasty little god, isn`t he? At least int he myth.
But on the positive side he has a very direct access to his fertility and lust.
I`m not really sure what to make of it astrologically. But maybe Priapus depicts a point in the horoscope where there is an overwhelming urge to merge, which may become so overwhelming and desperate that you may humilate yourself, by committing really low acts (be they destructive towards others as in an attempted rape. or be they selfdestructive, by "offering" yourself, even if oyu know that you will never get back enough, so that you will be satisfied; the willingness to live a lie just to feel the illusion of merging.)
But I think there must also be a positive way to see Priapus and Lilith. Maybe Priapus can offer that empathy like it has been said in that article I mentioned."
"in a woman`s chart:
Lilith represents the part of herself, that is wild and untamed.
Those instincts and emotions that she might not even admit to herself (ever read "Run with wolves"?)
Priapus most probably will represent the kind of man she might not be able to say "No" to.
A temptation, too, but for her he might be cause he is so persistent in chasing her.
Or maybe it represents the kind of man she wants to be chased by.
I am a bit fuzzy on this one, still.
Maybe he will be "dangerous" to her, as he might make her WANT to yield and surrender despite her attempts to stay her own person,a nd not get sucked in too much?"
"It is a multilayered issue.
Actually BOTH are of lunar symbolism, as they represent the perigee (Priapus) and apogee (Lilith) of the Moon.
So, they do not reflect the masculine-feminine principle on the basis of the solar-lunar-connection (Sun-Moon), but if they represent this at all, it is all in reference to the lunar realm (the emotional-instinctual sphere).
Let´s have a look at what they really are.
Priapus is the point where the moon is closest to earth- looking much bigger than normally, even making a difference in the tides,wich tend to be more extreme. (because due to the Moon being closer to earth, the gravitational pull is stronger - hence the tides are higher or there is more variation in them).
That is Priapus.
A bigger moon, clearly dominating the midnight sky. Greater tides (water).
The emotional sphere is clearly heightened, more intense, maybe even in a most irrational way, like everything "feels" bigger more meaningful, more emotionalized.
It is closer to earth (matter) than to the Sun (spirit).
Priapus needs to manifest in an earthly manner. LEt me be blunt, Priapus wants to feel close to somebody, and the way for him to do it, is literally merge with the other part, not in a detached mental or spiritual way, but through sex, simply put.
Physical closeness (emotional closeness - lunar symbolism- on the physical level - earth).
Now, usually we attribute this need to adapt to others, to merge with them, to bring people together, to compromise, to make personal connections, rather with the feminine psychology.
In this sense we have raw masculine power here, yes that might be true, but clearly carrying the feminine notion of "connecting" with it. The urge for connection is so great that PRiapus will do basically anything to accomplish that.
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Now for the Black Moon LIlith- the apogee.
Furthest from earth. Looking small and distant. Out of reach.
She is furthest from earth (matter), but that means closer to the Sun (spirit).
Now closer to the Sun also means, emphasizing the "I", independence.
I think that is a key to understanding her. She will still want connection (she IS a lunar symbol after all), but on HER terms, noone elses.
She will rather suppress her needs for a companion, than yield to a companion that will not respect her as an independent person.
This maintaining of an independent core, however, is traditionally ascribed masculine behaviour or needs. To assert themselves.
So here we have the raw feminity, and yes she is, but coming with that need for being her own.
I think both have deep raw primal feelings, but they deal differently with them.
In negative way Priapus would stalk someone, and Lilith would withdraw her prsence totally (even if it should feel like it would kill herself to do so, but she will not compromise).
I don`t think one is better than the other in synastry. They are just two sides of the same - lunar- coin."
All these are from Ceridwen!
Thanks.
Lindaland
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posted August 07, 2014 02:22 PM