posted September 12, 2019 07:57 PM            

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Originally posted by H20AC:
How would you interpret a man’s name asteroid inside a woman’s chart, conjunct her Sedna?

I read somewhere that Sedna is about cheating or being cheated on...

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Sedna is about the Skeleton Woman archetype as per Inuit mythology, and how this story relates to your life only you can decipher through the combination of your own life experience and drive/curiosity to learn/understand.

What we can say, is that NAME may relate to the Sedna/Skeleton Woman story - how and if is up to you to discover.

If you are curious, read up on the mythology (for example google Clarissa Pinkola Estes + Sedna - her book Women Who Run With Wolves you may find useful) and also what others have written about this space body. Go for multiple perspectives - read all you can.

Ultimately, it seems to have to do with

Victimhood/Transcendence.

You should prefix this with Self-.
Self-Victimhood/Self-Transcendence.
Seeing as how it is ulimately your choice what you identify with.

I have Sedna conjunct my Draconic Ascendant+Anubis+King+Chaos+Atlantis+Draconic Chiron+Draconic Psyche.
And I have died many times to become consciously immortal.

Perhaps NAME will help you die so you can transcend yourself.
Only you can find out.

Rest assured, if Cheating is in any way involved, the cheating has the purpose to have you die so you can be reborn to your immortality.
Break your heart until it opens?

Don't take my word for it.
Your entire chart + experience is the real storyteller in this case, not me nor Clarissa nor anyone else, nor this particular conjunction.

Knowing Sedna to her bones, however, will guaranteed help you on your path.
And there are no quick fixes to know her.
You need to dive into cold waters to do so.

posted September 12, 2019 08:45 PM            

Victimisation or transcendence?

Many of the traditional astrological interpretations of the Sedna myth focus on the unconscious actions which led her to her transcendence and her father's role in this process, emphasising the victimisation and sacrificial interpretations of the planet. However, interpretations which focus on Sedna's attempts to stay on the boat of reality, and calling her a victim, forget that she transcended to godhood through this process. Transcendence is not victimisation; and the two may only be confused if we desperately hang onto the old reality.

Astrological meaning

One of the case studies in my book Sedna Consciousness is Edgar Cayce, the father of modern wholistic medicine. We get a hint from him that Sedna combines heredity, evolutionary change and spiritual development into a unitary worldview.

That is why I call subtitle my book 'The Soul's Path of Destiny', because, if we accept the idea of past lives, our soul's path of destiny over those lifetimes would combine aspects of heredity and evolutionary change with the spiritual growth of the soul.

And from the myth we get the idea that it relates to various unconscious experiences which come from our heredity, that will push us to a painful crisis of transcendence, where we are forced to let go of our old spiritual framework and rise to a new consciousness.

Legendary humanistic astrologer Dane Rudhyar posited that there were three different levels on which each planet could operate depending on the evolution of our consciousness. The vast majority of us are at the beginners' level and we will manifest the energy of Sedna from a position of being buried in the dysfunctional swamp of density.

Largely unconscious of the all-encompassing spiritual energy of the planet, we are likely only to notice it when it jolts our reality, to correct some imbalance in our lives by bringing us illness or victimisation, like the judder strip (or 'sleeping policeman') on the road, to steer us back onto the true path of our soul's destiny.

At the intermediate level, we tire of density and the grief it creates, and we start a spiritual journey to get out of the swamp. This is the key to working with Sedna: she wants to get us on a spiritual path or recognise the spiritual path that we're on. Then she hits us with transcendent crises, experiences which force us to let go and rise above them, resulting in a huge growth to a new level of consciousness. There is no choice with these crises and the more we try and solve them the more we will get hurt.

At this juncture in human evolution, few people use their planets at the spiritual level, but such people are wonderful to be around. The well-known pattern with the other planets is that the spiritual level is vastly different from the two previous levels and this is also true for Sedna. Here the struggle of the beginners' level is gone, as are the transcendental crises of the intermediate level. At this level everything Saturnian is meaningless and yet everything Sednian has its place.

Sedna keywords

Here are some keywords for these three levels of spiritual development. At the unconscious level it's fairly dark, but this doesn't mean that all darkness comes from Sedna; she just uses every tool she has to get us onto the spiritual path.

At the unconscious level

- Victimisation
- Persistent illness
- Alienation
- Unrelenting trauma and suffering
- Nurturing resentment
- Unbearable pressure
- Caught in quicksand
- Personal blindspot

On the spiritual path

- Radical acceptance
- Acknowledging just how bad things really are and starting from there
- Keeping our heart open in hell
- Nurturing our sense of humour
- Beating our drum and singing to life
- Fated transcendence

At the spiritually evolved level

- Spiritual destiny
- Transcendent peace
- Nurturing abundance
- Allowing love and harmony
- Transpersonal consciousness
- Higher octave of Ceres

The newly re-classified dwarf planet Ceres can be thought of as the higher octave of the Moon, meaning that the emotional security of the Moon is transmuted to a sustenance and nurturing of our spiritual security and sense of place on planet Earth with Ceres.

posted September 12, 2019 09:58 PM            

Katherine Josten, founder of the Global Art Project, danced the role of Sedna in a ritual theatre event called RESTORING THE BALANCE in Tucson, Arizona, in 2004. Cast members were amazed to learn, during rehearsals, that a new planet beyond Pluto had just been discovered, and astronomers chose to name it Sedna. As Katherine prepared, she observed that the myth of Sedna is profoundly relevant to the transformation in human understanding that is occuring as we evolve into a global humanity:

"The integration of male and female must occur in order to bring balance to the earth and human consciousness. The two aren't apart. It is necessary for a dialogue to occur so the pain of both male and female may be brought to light and transmuted. Raven and Sedna’s father were acting out of fear, which means out of their own pain. Both their pain and Sedna’s pain must be brought to light for true transmutation to occur."

Transmutation is an alchemical word that concerns the process by which the old "dense matter", the "materia" is burned way, changed, dissolved, in order to create something new and more refined - lead into gold.

posted September 13, 2019 09:01 PM            

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Originally posted by H20AC:
How would you interpret a man’s name asteroid inside a woman’s chart, conjunct her Sedna?

I read somewhere that Sedna is about cheating or being cheated on...

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Sedna is deep betrayal by a man. It is worse than cheating. It is betrayal to the very soul in the worse way. I would be very careful of the above situation. I have a lot of experience with Sedna in the charts because I have used it for a long time. It always plays out.

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posted September 13, 2019 09:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Sedna is deep betrayal by a man. It is worse than cheating. It is betrayal to the very soul in the worse way. I would be very careful of the above situation. I have a lot of experience with Sedna in the charts because I have used it for a long time. It always plays out.

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posted September 13, 2019 09:43 PM            

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Originally posted by nomad-monad:
Just to illustrate it could also mean someone who sticks with the skeleton woman in thick and thin. Perhaps an opposition or square would depict the more "negative" outcome, which is ultimately a positive outcome.

I don't know - I am just sharing my speculations.

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Everything you wrote and cited was extremely helpful and interesting. I didn’t even know there was that much material regarding this Asteroid.

posted September 13, 2019 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Sedna is deep betrayal by a man. It is worse than cheating. It is betrayal to the very soul in the worse way. I would be very careful of the above situation. I have a lot of experience with Sedna in the charts because I have used it for a long time. It always plays out.

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I think this is an unfair and onesided interpretation. Sedna IS not that.
Things are never so onesided.

Though even if she in this case IS, she is also MORE. And the MORE is what is important to understand in order to utilize the wisdom Sedna teaches. Simply stating above create nothing but fear, rather than courage in face of the eventual betrayal.

There is the story of the Black Swan.
"All we have ever seen here is white swans, thus there are no black swans".

There is also the story of numbers.
"Numbers are so flexible they can mimic human reasoning".

Sedgewick:

Positive - a forgiving disposition, discernment, clarity of perception, recognition of free will and choice, responsible, conscious of consequence, far thinking, dharma-oriented, does the homework of life

Negative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconscious

Mundane - blubber, products made from sea mammals, whaling, diving bells that go into the dark of the sea, emotional healing, forgiveness, sorrow, engagement, masks, flight of the birds

posted September 14, 2019 07:26 AM            

The Sedna will do it. The asteroid BRINGS the action to the other person. Tell me what the situation is.

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posted September 14, 2019 08:27 AM            

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Originally posted by MermaidDreamz:
What would it mean if two people have Sedna conjunct Sedna? A couple actually.

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It would mean they are probably around the same age, seeing as how Sedna moves very slowly even if a bit erratic. She's flying beyond Neptune, moving about 1 degree per year.

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posted September 14, 2019 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Good call Nomad!

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Have you read many charts with Sedna conjunct Nort Node Ami? I am looking at a woman with below in her 6th solar. What's your take?

Semiramis - Taurus 06°16
Aura - Taurus 07°46
Sedna - Taurus 08°14
NORTH NODE - Taurus 08°26
Chaos - Taurus 08°55
Midas - Taurus 10°20

She has a serious Sag stellium
Sun/Uranus/Venus/Saturn/Mercury.

Following are quincunx NN/Sedna:

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posted September 14, 2019 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I can't recall where Sedna was, Nomad, but it always played out as severe betrayal by men, usually the father and then other men. It is a very sad story.

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I think 'always' sound a bit fixed for my taste. I'd think it's a locked karma to use those experiences to spiritually awaken, and when that is done one can tap into the spiritual wisdom that Sedna possess.

posted September 15, 2019 11:46 AM            

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posted September 15, 2019 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't agree. Charts play out. You can't control it like that but we can agree to disagree.

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posted September 18, 2019 11:14 AM            

Will look through the collected articles and leave their links here.

There are links to older websites from which I had printed materials, that are no longer supported. (ie. website doesn't exist on internet anymore). I may type those articles out in full later.
No promises.

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* Celestial Event Chart, DISCOVERY of 90377 SEDNA
- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Celestial:_Sedna_Discovery

* (article) SEDNA Consciousness (Astrodienst)
Sedna Consciousness: The Soul's Path of Destiny
by Alan Clay
c first published by The Astrological Journal, 2010 /
The Astrological Association of Great Britain / 01.04.2019
- http://www.astro.com/astrology/aa_article190401_e.htm

* Article on Sedna
{re reincarnation, Atlantis, etc.}
- http://grouz-lait.com/layouts/2019-08-24/tadyg-sedna-astrology-chart.php

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* from email received Nov 2014 in newsletter
by astrologer Donna Page
- www.lovinglightastrologer.com

for Saturn opp Sedna {excerpt}

"... the archetypal principle of being conned or let-down in life, where {one says to self}... 'if we did this, or went there, or did that,' then life would turn-out a certain way,... {but then} we find out that 'no', the hope or promise of 'what we thought or expected' was a LIE."
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* SEDNA "Resurrection Queen"
by Marina
- www.darkstarastrology.com/sedna
ac Nov. 2013
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LindaLand Links

* LL Asteroid theme groups in synastry
by Tigerlily
- www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017880.html

* LL Three levels of Sedna
comment# by Peri Oct 28 2007
quotes from the following
- website 'Karma Astrology'
- no longer supported -
comment# by Glaucus {Raymond}, April 13 2009
{He includes Harmonics charting}
- www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001075.html

* LL THE SEDNA PEOPLE
comment# by Glaucus Aug 28 2010
- www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/205240.html
ac Jan 2015

Glaucus provides quote from book by
Alison Chester-Lambert
The Future in The Stars
- http://cygnusreview.com/products/the-future-in-the-stars-alison-chester-lambert
{I own this book--
It's beautiful, high quality.
Includes the other 'Easter Island' type asteroids. Buy it! LOL}

comment# Glaucus {same link}
includes...
"Sedna Meditation"
by Janis Page, Uranian Astrologer

* LL Is Sedna really evil?
- www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001701.html
Includes Outside links
- www.cornerstone-astrology.com/articles/astrology_sedna.htm

* Small World Stories - SEDNA
by Eric Francis
- www.planetwaves.net/smallworlds/free/sedna.html
ac Nov 2014

* Sedna Astrology
by Kim Falconer
- www.falconastrology.com/sedna.htm
ac June 2011

* Julie Dembowski on Sedna
- *not supported* -
I may have to type out this article later.
originally from anasteroidsdatabase.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/sedna/
ac Oct 2010

* SEDNA
List of Mundane Events (history)
by Jamie Dec 22, 2011
- darkstar astrology
{List not supported?, or, placed elsewhere}

Planet Sedna
by Marina
- www.darkstarastrology.com/sedna-celebrities/
{aspects to planets and luminaries}

related--
* New Moon conjunct Persephone Sept 2012
- www.darkstarastrology.com/new-moon-september-2012/

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* The Astronomy and Astrology of Sedna
by Nick Anthony Fiorenza
- www.lunarplanner.com/asteroids-dwarfplanets/Sedna.html
ac July 2015

* (an article that includes Sedna)
by Lynn Koiner
- www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/the-new-centaurs-of-transformation- cruithne-quaoar-sedna
ac July 2015

* Magi Astrology article
- www.magiastrology.com/Hammer_of_Thor_part1.htm
ac July 2015
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* SEDNA Treasure
Women Helping Women --
Healing Family Estrangement and Creating a New Life.
- http://sednasdaughters.com/who-is-sedna/
Organization--
"International Network of Daughters Surviving Family Shunning"

Their material includes references from
The Mountain Astrologer magazine
Feb/Mar 2015 - pgs 62 to 70
SEDNA Treasure From The Depths
by Sue Kientz {her website www.moreplutos.com }
PDF of her article
- http://moreplutos.com/articles/Sedna-SueKientz_MtAstrol-Feb-Mar2015.pdf

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-- My Placement --

90377 Sedna Aries 25.46'48" in H4
- aspects -
Cardinal Sign Grand-SQUARE
including:
Uranus Cancer 25+ H8,
Neptune 25+ Libra H10,
Ceres r 25+ Capricorn H2

quincunx Moon Virgo 24+ H(9)

sextile SN-Mercury Gem H7
sextile NN-GalacticCenter H1
trine Pluto-P.o.Fortune Leo H8canc
trine Pallas Sag H1

Sedna conjuncts Andromeda Galaxy M31 in Aries, located within the decan belonging to Persephone.

I won't go into all the other asteroids that conjunct placements as this post is already very long.

Her story has had great significant in my chart.

my scribbles under Sedna in my data-book notes--
{don't know the ref}
"Disability"
"Web of Life; Life served-up raw"
"You are given the Compassion of the Universe to help you heal;
are asked to share it,
and to help others to Heal through that Compassion."

posted September 20, 2019 02:03 PM            

"How would you interpret a man’s name asteroid inside a woman’s chart, conjunct her Sedna?"

this would show that he is straight forward and dependable... not a cheater at all.

too often as astrologers we assume the mythological meaning is paramount... and it usually is but sometimes researching the symbol first hand leads to radically different conclusions.

posted September 20, 2019 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
too often as astrologers we assume the mythological meaning is paramount... and it usually is but sometimes researching the symbol first hand leads to radically different conclusions.

the malicious energy around Sedna is reactive...truth is dangerous and if one spreads the light of truth in dark places, then ,yes, death can occur. but this is a very small chance.
todd

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