posted December 01, 2002 03:24 PM         

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posted December 04, 2002 10:17 AM         

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posted December 04, 2002 08:55 PM         

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posted January 07, 2003 03:28 PM         

Why do some souls choose suicide?

Because they do not feel they have any other options to get what they want. The same is true of any negative or violent action. The intent can be positive, neutral, or negative. So you can hit someone, hit yourself, kill yourself, with the best intentions. Remember the suicide cults. The point is you think it is going to give you what you want.

Do suicides go to Hell?

Everyone who is in a very negative state of mind goes to hell when they die. This happens through pure attraction. In Hell there are volunteers to help them to overcome, if they want, their negative patterns. Reincarnation is simply another learning process to do this.

Do suicides get bad karma?

Yes, I would say so, but it depends on how clinically depressed you are and whether you can control yourself. Suicide is murder. If I pushed someone off a bridge that would be murder. If I did it to myself, the same. Think of how you would try someone for murder. Would you let them off on an insanity plea.

Is dying of old age like suicide?

Yes. People who die of old age are damaging their bodies through negative thinking processes that cause aging.

What can people who are suicidal do?

There are always options for people who are suicidal, even though their current consciousness level prohibits such an awareness, leading to a bit of a paradox for how they are to get out of the bind. Suicidal people are the spiritually blind ones, people who do not understand that they have full control over their destiny. Feeling themselves victims of circumstances or society, they think the only way out is suicide. I do not believe anyone wants oblivion. I think everyone wants life, or else their bodies would spontaneously fly apart by the atoms. People want life, but they do not see any options for getting the life they want. Increasing the number of options they have is the first goal of anyone helping a suicidal person.

posted January 07, 2003 07:09 PM         

If it is chemical, perhaps you could take lithium that is what I take. That helps my mood swings not go too low- they can go extremely low.

But maybe you just need something to take your mind off of the present situation, I don't know, I just would like to see you log on again and say how you are doing, OK?

posted January 08, 2003 03:14 PM         

I am tired of the condescending attitude some people have about others who commit/attempt suicide. Calling them weak, or saying that those people are selfish or will go to hell...it just seems so unforgiving to me. Not that I in any way condone suicide or think it is okay. It is obviously a horrible, horrible thing, and it is never a way out. It's never an answer.

posted January 14, 2003 03:19 AM         

You have never been deeply hurt by the evil of another or yourself. When you are, you find that evil cannot be shaken off so easily by a pinch of love and forgiveness. It takes years, lifetimes, ages even of time to conquer evil. Suicide claims many lives through its evil, and those lives are not resolved, do not go to Heaven, etc. Besides, whether you forgive someone who commits suicide only makes a difference to you. They still have to forgive themselves.

A way to look at suicide and wrongness is like this. If someone murdered someone you loved, would you be angry? Would you consider the act of murder wrong? What if the murderer was the victim? Does that make it any less of a murder, does that make it any less wrong and cruel? Would you let a murderer run free?

When I say Hell I am not talking about the Christian Hell, the eternal purgatory for wickedness, and if you want to read my comments that way it is your problem. Nevertheless if you murder yourself, it is an evil act and it binds you through its negativity and vibration to a lower plane of existence. This is just how the universe works. Nothing forces you into hell, you put yourself there. If you can kill yourself with a smile on your face, you go to Heaven. It is not the act but the negativity inherent in it. If you are about to commit suicide but die of accident instead, you still go to Hell. Am I being judgmental? No. I am not judging anyone. I am just telling the truth. This is a very serious topic and only the truth will do.

posted January 14, 2003 03:31 AM         

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Then I was shown how I would harm other people close to me, such as my husband and my sister, Tony, by taking my life; and by extension, countless others. There were people on the earth whom I would never meet who would be affected by my suicide. Because of the anger and pain I would cause them, my loved ones would be unable to store up the goodness that they were meant to pass on to others. I would be held responsible for the damages - or the lack of good - they would do while immersed in the pain of my selfish death. And I would pay dearly for it, since spiritual laws dictate that all of the harm, including lack of good, stemming from my death be punished by a measure of suffering. Even though I couldn't foresee the ripple effect my death would cause, I would be held accountable. God himself is bound by spiritual law, and so there could be no escape for me.

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posted January 14, 2003 03:40 AM         

I think different people are here for different reasons...perhaps some like you teach wisdom, and some teach love like Gooberz.

I think there is no doubt suicide is a selfish thing and hurts all people around, and is negative. I also know the pain must be very big to consider such things. So what I like to do and maybe my reason is for validation. SOmetimes people just want to validated and heard and listened to and know their feelings are real.

But since (in my opinion) you are here to teach us wisdom, I'll shut up (for once), yes I am capable

posted January 14, 2003 03:48 AM         

If you are one of those people that does not regard suicide with any seriousness, then you obviously never went through those feelings or had a loved one kill themselves or die suddenly. If you have you are at the very least going to be upset just hearing the word.

I do not like the idea of God or judgment any more than you do. But I have the hindsight of having been suicidal, and the hindsight of having spoken with God and God is not like the way religion says. God is not some A**hole in outer space who decides your fate. I hate astrology for the same reason. I hate the idea of being controlled or judged by some stupid rules. But I do know that pain, suicide, and negativity are very real things and nobody should want to increase those things for themselves.

posted January 14, 2003 03:58 AM         

It sounds conceited but I agree with you. I also agree Gooberz is here to teach love or at least something I cannot teach. I have no love to teach. There is no more love in my spirit left. In many ways I am already in Hell and that is why I comprehend the sheer horror and futility of it. OF COURSE I would warn other people who seemed on the verge of entering my domain. I put up a sign Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here. Unfortunately, I know all too well of what I speak so overconfidently.

posted January 14, 2003 04:11 AM         

Well I just don't want you to think I regard this stuff without seriousness at all...I have seen/felt/been through many things and do not take that lightly!

posted January 14, 2003 04:13 AM         

I never had the benefit of deciding not to kill myself. For years, including now, I have carried with me the desire to die, and such a desire is as evil as murder and suicide itself. I never stopped wanting to die. I decided to kill myself on the inside out. Gradually I wore away my health, my sense of being life and potential for happiness. The world became a forbidden and foreign place to me, a planetary jail I was trapped on forever. It started with starving myself, then continued with intentionally trying to ruin my health, relationships, breaking apart all my friendships, reverse engineering my life in every way.

Anyone can make a lot of progress by just admitting they want to live. Nobody wants to die, but people are not content with the life they have. If they do not, they have themselves to blame for what happens to them. God will not lay a finger on them. They will destroy themselves from the inside out. On a spiritual plane you can do that quite literally.

posted January 14, 2003 05:06 AM         

It also has to do with the way and reason you commit suicide. If, being sane, sober, and wholly evil, you kill yourself so expertly there is no way your body could be resurrected, then you do go to Hell. If, being mentally sick and doped up on drugs, you kill yourself in a sloppy and inefficient way, such as a drug overdose, then there is a chance that would lead to a divine dispensation of resurrection, like a karmic loaner, that lets you return and makes it seem like there was no consequence of suicide. So I would say people who do not really want to die tend to kill themselves in a certain way. I do not think depression is that great an excuse. I was depressed but I still had some control. Being depressed is not a good excuse.

posted February 03, 2003 11:08 PM         

I have had friends who have actually taken it to the next level and tried to take their own lives... and i wish there had been some signs, and i wish they had come to me.

Dont try to muffle the crys of people in need of being heard, dont ever ever asume that a this cry for help is an idle threat... please just dont asume, what if your wrong?

LibraCat9, i really think you should listen to what theFajita and Gooberzlostlovefound have said. And what theFajita said about medication, listen, because i know many many people who have chemical imbalances like yourself. One friend i know has bi-polar and form off manic depression... Shes had a hard life, her mother has depression and her father changed sexes, shes loves them both very much, but life is hard for her, but she is so much better because she has taken the appropriate actions to combat her illness.

So LibraCat9 please dont give up, im a libra too, and i know balancing those damn scales can be real tough, but if it wernt for those lows the highs wouldnt feel so damn good!!!

All my love to everyone in Lindaland!