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La-Tee-Da
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posted October 11, 2002 07:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katiebull.....I am a pharmacist and I don't consider myself a "legalized drug pusher". I am a health professional that is educated to save your life. Yes, drugs are a big part of what I do, but I am a key and pivotal player in the Trauma team. When a person comes in physically devasted from a car wreck or natural disaster or a victim of someone else's carelessness, it is my job to get the right drugs to that person, in order to keep their hearts beating, their lungs breathing, their life going!!!

Yes, there are alot of stupid TV ads floating around, but be thankful they are there to keep the public informed!! Just think how we were victimized in the "dark ages" before all this advertising. How many innocent people took drugs that destroyed their lives because they were NOT INFORMED?
All drugs and herbs have side effects, but thank goodness that we have publications to read that tell us the truth!!! Alot has changed in the last 30 yrs....for the better.

As far as "kick-backs", the Fed Govt has put the BIG squeeze on gifts of any large monetary value to physicians....nothing larger than a dinner.....pharmacists get pens and notepads. Gone are the days of the free trips to Hawaii or colored TV's. Most drug companies have taken their expense accounts and cycled the monies toward educational grants. Very few spend the BIG bucks on pens, cups, notepads, etc. Bristol-Meyer-Squibb spends all their monies on Educational programs to further the education of pharmacists and doctors, so that we can be completely informed on the latest findings.Things have definitely changed for the better.

Of course, there are those health professionals that invest in the stock market and feel it is necessary to write prescriptions for "their" products, but they cannot write 100% of all their patient's needs from one company. Gone are the days where one company makes products to treat you from head to toe!!

Of course, you are always going to have a dishonest individual here and there that give all the professions a bad name. But how can you change all that?
Bright Blessings

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sadoi
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posted October 23, 2002 11:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't have any strong views on this subject. But I was told once, by someone I trusted (and I'm going to paraphrase what he said very badly, because I have a horrible memory), that using drugs isn't inherently bad or good. It opens you up to more planes of existence, so while it does make you more aware, it also makes you more susceptible, to both good and bad influences. You loose your shield, in a manner of speaking. So, while there can be some good in using the drugs in ritualized settings (like the Native Indian shamans sometimes did), unless you know what you're doing, or are with someone who knows what they're doing, it's probably not good to risk it.

I'm not really sure where addiction fits into this model. Using anything to an extreme is harmful, and people seem to be more susceptible to drugs than other things. I've often speculated that it's because we all want to reach an advanced state of spiritual awareness, though we realize it or not, and drugs seem to provide somewhat of a shortcut for that. Which is what makes them dangerous, to me. I don't think there is a true shortcut, and by taking drugs, people are entering a state of awareness that they might not have the training (through meditation, etc) or means to handle.

*shrugs*

Never tried drugs, so couldn't say for sure, I suppose. *g*

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Sher bear
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posted November 08, 2002 12:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.k, as a former speed freak ( two years everyday) herione user, crack head,and coke-***** ----I was on a road of self destruction.....So, I don't know---good or bad?.. I do know I'm stronger now, and without any of those experinces I would't have awakened into who I am at this moment...(I also have Linda to thank, as it was her book Love Signs that sent me on my spritual quest..)I now use weed quite frequently, but as a hard core Bulimic for 7 years, if anythings going to destroy me it's my addiction to food....I think certain people are prone to addictive habits, and so we all must walk our own roads...Weed is fine for me, and in most cases eases my anxiety, and helps me focus on deeper spiritual matters of heart.....anything used as a crutch is dangerous, and so moderation is the key...I don't judge anyone for anything they chose do....and to critize others is to reveal yourself....For the most part, I'm a very sensitive creature prone to serious anxiety--so as far as weed goes, it helps take my edge off...But seriously, this does not mean I advocate drug use, as everyone must chose for themselves what serves their soul...Many a prophet was high, and I know I've had some of my deepest experiences after a good bowl..Anyways, I'm not high now, but all I can think about is binging on some ice-cream, man I wish it was illegal....BLEZZINGs Sher bear XoXoXo

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theFajita
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posted November 08, 2002 02:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sherbear, I have had past struggles like your own (crack, etc.), and your current battle (eating, throwing up) I have had problems with. I do wish you luck and hope we both can get thru the current problems! Just know you are not alone..

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trippysht
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posted November 08, 2002 12:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good topic! i have much to say, i hope many of you will take time to read it all.

it is especially a good topic because just a few weeks ago, i stopped smoking pot after being a daily smoker for over 5 years. why? because you have to teach your brain to use those otherwise unused parts on its own, because drugs are a limitation to what your brain can do on its own. what was hard about stopping was that it is a really great social centerpiece, but that, too, needed to be overcome.

i have several thoughts on this: first, i know first hand that, indeed, pot and some psychedelics (the only drugs i have experience with and would recommend experimenting with) have lifted some of the veils covering 'reality', at least, have showed the user that there is so much of a meaning to life beyond what most people seemed concerned about- education sex career families money prestige the RAT RACE; the type of stuff that, if as the only things filling a person's life, will leave them waking up midlife confused about how they got there and where they're going. i've seen it open the door of spirituality to many people, including myself. but this i say with ferver: POT CAN ONLY BE (BUT ONLY ONE OF) A KEY TO OPEN THIS DOOR, IT CANNOT WALK YOU THROUGH IT... i think using drugs beyond that point of this realization leaves the user spinning in the doorway, confusing the mundane and spiritual worlds, clouding their vision, unable to really walk through. i have read that certain substances can help the user get over future blockages and open future doors, especially in a ritualistic atmosphere, but this i cannot say from experience, because i didnt use originally for this spiritual pupose. i need a MAJOR amount of time detoxing, as being a habitual smoker leaves your body over saturated with its chemicals. its sad, because not only can pot not walk you thru that door, it will prevent you from doing so.

my second thought is this: DRUGS SHOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL! as linda's heathcliff conveyed about placing laws against pornography, the laws DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT prevent people from using drugs. If anything, by leaving the drug trade an illegal business, you put a lot of innocent good and especially young people at risk of being harmed by folks of lower morals. DRUG ADDICTION IS AN EPIDEMIC and should be TREATED not PUNISHED!! until we start viewing this very VERY big problem of drug addiction in this way, we will never stop the use. in addition, countries spend billions upon billions of money on the capture and incarceration of criminals and not-such criminals without making as much of a dent in the usage, let alone the supply line- and we all know how effective jail is in detering aberrant behavior. all of that money can go towards curing addicts and thereby lowering the demand for these drugs. King Bush says that drug users contribute to terrorism... and i have a solution for him TAKE THE BUSINESS AWAY FROM THE BAD GUYS and start lowering the demand.

Aside from all this, I think light use of MILD marijuana is about as harmful as light use of alcohol: it would be ideal if people didnt do it, or like to use it, but they should have the right to do so. I do know many folks you can use it casually without addiction. If it can be talked about openly, people can more readily talk about and get help for over use.

Also, hemp has soo many beneficial uses it could really help some of the ailing tobacco growers in american as cigarette use is taking a hit (thank god). i think marijuana intact and in parts have many medicinal uses, especailly very mild marijuana/ hemp used as other herbal remedies are- without any real intoxication. and i think if it would just be adequately researched, we'd find it has many components of worth (it probably already has, but as we know at the health store, it is unprofitable to research a plant because it cannot be patented. (thank you pharmaceudical industry)

that's it, thank you for your time!

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Diddle
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posted November 09, 2002 04:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I worked for a psychiatrist who said if marijuana was legal and she could prescribe it, tranquillisers wouldn't be needed.

However I have seen my son become dependant on it to sleep in the past and, although past that phase now, it was a very trying time for us all and he suffered a distinct personality change.

Incidentally Kava Kava has marijuana type calming effects without the hallucinagenic properties. It apparantly comes from an island in the Caribbean where the people grind it down (it is a root) and eat it a lot. They are known as the sunshine people. I have used it in the past and found it beneficial but I don't know the effects of heavy use.

K

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chocoholic82
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posted November 09, 2002 06:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much everyone
I didn't even see that so many people posted since last month... and everyone's opinion is great...

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theFajita
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posted November 10, 2002 01:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Diddle,
I am a big fan of kava kava, I love it. It actually originates from the polynesian islands (Hawaii and others) where the natives have been using it for thousands of years to relax or partake in religious ceremonies. I take in a tea to relax before bed, it isn't addictive, and it calms the senses. Good luck with your son, I was in his shoes before and Lord knows I caused my family much greif.

Chocoholic I am glad you got so many good responses with differing opinions. I probably came down harshly against marijuana, but I can't help it, sure not everyone is like me, but I just can't see anything spiritual or beneficial about fiending to smoke pot 10 times a day, always being too stoned to know what was going on, having a lowered immune system and coughing all the time. But- news flash fajita, not everyone smokes like I did

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chocoholic82
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posted November 10, 2002 10:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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batgirl
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posted December 02, 2002 08:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it should be legal to use in spritual ceremony, under the guidance and reasonable supervision of a spiritual teacher. For example, during a weekend spiritual retreat. 100% of the information available about it should be taught to anyone interested in using it for spiritual enlightenment. But then it should be a choice. It should be seen as sacred, and as dangerous.

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 02, 2003 01:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy New Year to Linda & everyone in LindaLand. I have been very interested to read all these posts. Yesterday I stopped smoking weed, after smoking it almost everyday for the last 5 years. I have had some wonderful experiences whilst I have been stoned, and I belive very strongly that it certainly should be legalised. For me personally though it is time to explore different paths of enlightenment- especially meditation. Also I spent a lot of money on weed, so I would prefer to use that money to travel or give to charity. Being an Aquarian, it is definitely time for me to become a little more grounded. I think the next month may be hard & I may be more grumpy than usual, but I have made my mind up & feel determined. I especially want my body to become healthy & know that smoking can be so destructive, especially after many years. (& when one day I have a baby, I want to be as fit and healthy as possible). These messages posted here have helped me to remain determined. Thankyou,
With lots of Love, Light & Blessings and Wishes for Peace, love , Health & happiness to you all in 2003 Lots of Love,
Orange Blossom xxx

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theFajita
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posted January 02, 2003 07:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey orange blossom, I am and I smoked for many years like a trooper! I know you can do it. It is hard but nice to see things clear again, remember things and get a little perspective. And go shopping

Welcome!

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 04, 2003 05:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello theFajita,
Thankyou for your lovely words of encouragement! This is my 4th day without weed & I'm still determined, altho' my poor Capricorn Wizard boyfriend keeps getting his head bitten off by me. I'm taking some Valerian & St John's Wort like Linda recommends in Star Signs.
I've got soooo much homework to do for my course but this site is much more tempting!
How do you get that pretty Aquarius sign on your posts?
Thankyou for welcoming me- I love LindaLand!
Lots of love, Orange Blossom xxxx

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 04, 2003 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello theFajita,
Thankyou for your lovely words of encouragement! This is my 4th day without weed & I'm still determined, altho' my poor Capricorn Wizard boyfriend keeps getting his head bitten off by me. I'm taking some Valerian & St John's Wort like Linda recommends in Star Signs.
I've got soooo much homework to do for my course but this site is much more tempting!
How do you get that pretty Aquarius sign on your posts?
Thankyou for welcoming me- I love LindaLand!
Lots of love, Orange Blossom xxxx

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trippysht
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posted January 04, 2003 07:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello orange blossom! i've been smoke free for over 2 months now, for almost the exact same reasons you've stopped. i didnt feel too much different stopping, but i think i'm STILL detoxing all of that THC out of my blood, and the coming off effects were pretty gradual for me. Glad to hear you've joined the club! right on, fajita, SMOKED LIKE A TROOPER

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theFajita
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posted January 04, 2003 09:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Trippy that is awesome you have stopped so long, yes please, THC is stored in fat cells and we women have more.

Have a great weekend!

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theFajita
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posted January 04, 2003 09:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange blossom I am so proud of you too. I know it's tough, hey, if all you are doing is biting off his head that is not too bad. I was crazy! It was the same for me as quitting harder drugs. Well I did smoke alot.

when you want to put that aquarius sign just click on the smilies legend when you are posting and it will tell you the code

Keep us posted on how you are doing OK and never beat yourself up sometimes we all go back and forth
love fajita

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 05, 2003 09:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,
Thanks again for your words of encouragement, & theFajita- thankyou for telling me how to get the Aquarius sign! I'm still meant to be doing my homework & I'm still pottering around LindaLand instead!
Hi Trippysht, may i ask what your Sun Sign is?
Lots of love to you all,
OrangeBlossom xxx
PS. Did you guys find that when you stopped smoking you were cough-cough-coughing all the time? And if so, how long did it take to stop?

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Dr. Bombay
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posted January 05, 2003 12:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Narcotics and alcohol slow down your vibrational frequency even as they expel your astral self from your body. You end up feeling “high” – out of body. But you are only able to tune into the lowest frequencies. Linda suggested that this was like tuning into radio stations, but without the control of tuning the dial to the station that brings enlightenment. To tune into “the better stars” you should avoid those things that bring down your rate of energetic vibration.

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Venera
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posted January 05, 2003 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Orange Blossom, the Fajita, trippysht, everyone! I`m on the same boat, it is wonderful to see that many people around`here like me. I`m weed free for 2 and a half months and determened to go on. after 7 years of smoking dope more or less daily it is quite nice to be clean again. for the future I wish that I only smoke at some special occasions..I actually took some hits at New Years Eve (we had a party in our apartment) and was so glad to find out, that I didn`t get greedy for more like earlier..just 2 months ago. So I don`t consider my self addicted anymore and this is quite relieving. I wish for anyone of you to get rid of addiction and be happy. You are all wonderful. And you know, LOVE CAN REALLY HEAL!!!
All my Love and hugs,
Venera

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Oxychick
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posted January 05, 2003 06:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Orange Blossom-here's another who used to smoke too much marijuana! I found that, just as with smoking cigarettes, you just have to take these addictions out of your routine. Hey, everyone has their own way that works. For me, it was taking as much pressure off of myself as possible by not telling anyone I was quitting. Quitting smoking marijuana was a bit easier as I started to hate it after a while -I especially hated the paranoia. That was probably about 5 years ago. I smoked ONCE since (about 2 years ago) and realized why I hated it so much. I remember the first few times I smoked and thought "wow, I'm really deep" (or something like that-my now fried brain can't remember exactly), and when I don;t smoke and see others who have, I realize how ridiculous they sound.

I went through a brief period of taking other drugs (coke mostly), and hated the fiending and deep, huge bouts of depression that went along with it. So not worth it.

Anyway, my advice (the best I can give without sounding domineering) is to immerse yourself in something else. Or just make it impossible to incorporate drugs into your daily routine. That also means keeping your distance from the people and places that make it easy to smoke.

Good luck to you!

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theFajita
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posted January 05, 2003 06:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool oxychick All these Aquarians, gotta love it!

Orangeblossom my lungs cleared out for a while. It was a little weird. But that was exactly like it. I coughed alot more than when I was smoking (which was plenty)...but that will go away eventually.

Venera congrats that is AWESOME. I am so proud of you too.

All of you make my heart sing. Not that I think everyone should quit smoking because some people have balance with it I know. But I liked it a little too much, well, a lot too much and I am so glad to hear of other people realizing they too could quit.

Love you all
Fajita

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 05, 2003 08:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Dr Bombay I agree with what you say about tuning into radio stations. Hello Venera- you have done so well, it is very encouraging to hear that you have quit for so long, and you are right that Love can heal. Do you ever listen to a band called Morcheeba? One of my favourite ever songs is by them (Fear & Love) & she sings: 'Fear can stop you loving...Love can stop your fear'- I think that is one of the truest things ever! Hiya Oxychick- thankyou for your wise advice & encouragement. It is so lovely to meet new Aqaurians- we do seem to have a weakness for marijuana & lots of other spacey things! I also understand what you mean about thinking 'I'm so deep'. When I started smoking I just found everything amazing, even going to Spar seemed like a big adventure, and watching TV, so I never got anything done & ended up getting thrown out of University. It wasn't just because of weed, a lot was going on for me at that time, but it was certainly a contributing factor. At the moment I'm doing an excellent course -Writing with Myth Folklore & Fairytale. When I grow up I want to be a writer. Also, I'm studying to become a counsellor & I am really into the idea of combining astrology and counselling & natural healing ways eg aromatherapy, herbology etc. So, I should be throwing myself into my homework, but this site is my new addiction!! It's like a magical enchanted land & I feel like Linda really is here. My Capricorn Wizard gave me Gooberz for Christmas & it is so beautiful, it made me cry three times tonight.
Millions of love & respect to you all,
Orange Blossom xxxx

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theFajita
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posted January 05, 2003 11:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange you are so cool, I know who morcheeba is too, and I want to be a writer too

We have so much in common
Yea I know me and other Aquarians can get drawn to stuff like that.

Well I am filled with for all of you!

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