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Barbiegirl19
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posted December 16, 2014 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
You're hired!

Thank you, Randall. Again I am honored that you're putting your trust in me.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok....
I'm going to be totally honest here.
Several may not like it. Hell I may even end up banned for character slander or whatever.

Here's my thoughts.

This thread.... is chaos.
The kind of chaos that normally gets closed.

Somebody tell me who the winner is here. Regardless of the ultimate outcome (thread being closed is surely what happens) There are no winners.
Randall, you, being webmaster, by inheritance because of your title, should feel ashamed for perpetuating this. This is the kind of thing that typically doesn't get allowed on LL and you're not only allowing it, but participating. I feel ashamed for you. Just being honest.
I don't know if it's because it involves you, most likely, or you're hoping someone slips up to be able to ban those that resist you. I would suppose it's because it involves you that this is allowed.

I don't even care about the actual content of what's being said in here.
Who said this, what it means, what is true, that's not what I said, what's your problem, etc.
I know it's like the teapot calling the kettle black. I was involved in such foolishness not very long ago. But I have to say, from the outside looking in....
Jeez... what foolishness it is.
All of this.

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2014 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know plenty that T actually did, such as the e-mails to Mods alleging that I led her on. Then she got upset that one of them very quickly sent it to me (whom she thought was a friend), so it is in her nature to slither behind the scenes like Tina May. It is not out of character at all in light of her hatred for me, for simply me stopping the dialogue with her after her two drunken e-mails.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
She wasn't posing as T - she said that T knew what she was talking about, and that Juni did, as well. She wanted me to contact Juni, to confirm her identity. I contacted T, and so did another friend, because of what this person was saying - acting like she would back her up, when she didn't have a clue what was going on, and tried to think of who it might be.

Oh yeah, I remember that email you sent me now. I was ****** that she was acting like we were friends or something and I think i told you to tell her to keep my name out of her mouth or to email me so i could give her a piece of my mind or something. I'd have to go back and find the email.

See, this is what I mean. I don't keep up with the BS here and here someone's accusing me of doing things outside of here. I can't keep track of the drama here and don't want to. Nevermind the drama off-forum.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
She wasn't posing as T - she said that T knew what she was talking about, and that Juni did, as well. She wanted me to contact Juni, to confirm her identity. I contacted T, and so did another friend, because of what this person was saying - acting like she would back her up, when she didn't have a clue what was going on, and tried to think of who it might be.

Oh, okay. Thanks for explaining.

Sounds like someone is taking advantage of the fact that T isn't on social media and can't set any records straight.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can understand this viewpoint, and I do agree. But I ignored her taunts for six years. I feel it needed to surface.

quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Ok....
I'm going to be totally honest here.
Several may not like it. Hell I may even end up banned for character slander or whatever.

Here's my thoughts.

This thread.... is chaos.
The kind of chaos that normally gets closed.

Somebody tell me who the winner is here. Regardless of the ultimate outcome (thread being closed is surely what happens) There are no winners.
Randall, you, being webmaster, by inheritance because of your title, should feel ashamed for perpetuating this. This is the kind of thing that typically doesn't get allowed on LL and you're not only allowing it, but participating. I feel ashamed for you. Just being honest.
I don't know if it's because it involves you, most likely, or you're hoping someone slips up to be able to ban those that resist you. I would suppose it's because it involves you that this is allowed.

I don't even care about the actual content of what's being said in here.
Who said this, what it means, what is true, that's not what I said, what's your problem, etc.
I know it's like the teapot calling the kettle black. I was involved in such foolishness not very long ago. But I have to say, from the outside looking in....
Jeez... what foolishness it is.
All of this.


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teasel
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posted December 16, 2014 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I know plenty that T actually did, such as the e-mails to Mods alleging that I led her on. Then she got upset that one of them very quickly sent it to me (whom she thought was a friend), so it is in her nature to slither behind the scenes like Tina May. It is not out of character at all in light of her hatred for me, for simply me stopping the dialogue with her after her two drunken e-mails.

Probably the same person who tried to set me up, so I wouldn't believe a word of it.

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T
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posted December 16, 2014 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I know plenty that T actually did, such as the e-mails to Mods alleging that I led her on. Then she got upset that one of them very quickly sent it to me (whom she thought was a friend), so it is in her nature to slither behind the scenes like Tina May. It is not out of character at all in light of her hatred for me, for simply me stopping the dialogue with her after her two drunken e-mails.

Not what happened at all. I sent no such emails to Mods. I had one of your Mods emailing me and that's how it started. I did not go out of my way to email anyone. I also don't ever slither behind the scenes. I'm an in-your-face kinda gal

I did not send you two drunken emails. I remember that whole debacle very clearly and still have all the emails to prove it. You can go ahead and call me a drunk a million and one times. You can try to insinuate that I could be other members, people who have supposedly stalked you and done something to the FB group? i think you said someone hacked it or something? Whatever you said earlier. You can go on and on all you want Randall. I know you are trying to plant seeds in people's heads at this point and that you know damn well none of that is true. You can go for it! Have fun with it. Rub your hands together and keep playing this game. I'll just sit back and watch you be the psycho you are. All you are doing is making yourself look bad to the majority here. Keep at it. I don't mind.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
...so it is in her nature to slither behind the scenes like Tina May. It is not out of character at all in light of her hatred for me, for simply me stopping the dialogue with her after her two drunken e-mails.

You have zero proof, and it works against your credibility that you are willing to spread rumors and have your hunches adopted as fact.

Your devotees will eat it up, of course, but it's not right. It's beneath the dignity of a webmaster to behave like this.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I said, I do agree, DF. But this has been spilling over into the Forums by T for long enough. We had some kind of a history. It's over. We do not like each other. That much is clear. I just want it to be over and done with. The best way to do that is to bare my soul and tell it like it is. No matter who believes what.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you girl. I don't know the details of that one. But it makes me smile to know you stood up for me. Even while going through so much **** of your own. I appreciate it so much.

You're welcome.

I don't think about it much, anymore - it feels more like ten years ago, than four - but I do remember things that happened.

quote:
Originally posted by T:

You are the last thing on my mind. I would not waste my time saying or doing anything to you or your girlfriend outside of here. Anything I have to say to either of you has been here. I have enough going on in my own life and unlike some other people, have no time for social media or online friendships. Just ask teasel. As much as i love her, I am not good at keeping up online friendships. Anyone who knows me knows i would not waste my free time talking **** or trying to destroy anyone. Not even you.

You are not an important person in my life and never have been. Maybe you and your cronies spend time gossiping and tearing people apart, but I don't. Never have and never will.


This is true. We hardly talk via email, but I consider her one of my best friends.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As I said, I do agree, DF. But this has been spilling over into the Forums by T for long enough. We had some kind of a history. It's over. We do not like each other. That much is clear. I just want it to be over and done with. The best way to do that is to bare my soul and tell it like it is. No matter who believes what.

Are you done yet?

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Barbiegirl19
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posted December 16, 2014 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you want me to close it, Randall?

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posted December 16, 2014 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

Randall, you, being webmaster, by inheritance because of your title, should feel ashamed for perpetuating this. This is the kind of thing that typically doesn't get allowed on LL and you're not only allowing it, but participating. I feel ashamed for you. Just being honest.

Maybe, just maybe, by DISCUSSION, which has always been halted and interfered with before, we can come to a clearer understanding of each other and they actual social dynamics we are working with.

This is one thing to Randall's CREDIT...he's finally letting us talk!

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posted December 16, 2014 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Oh it's very much so relevant.

The bias in this thread is appalling. I mean come on be reasonable.


That goes both ways. I'm posting what I know to be true.

Merry Christmas, everyone.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Do you want me to close it, Randall?

That would be so poetic and set the tone for H & H, where no one is going to bother coming anymore, except Randall's Faithful.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are quite aware of the the two times you e-mailed me when you were drunk--including the apology afterwards. Is that so bad to admit to? Deny everything. You must work for the CIA. I have to believe that you have some serious issues with honesty.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
That would be so poetic and set the tone for H & H, where no one is going to bother coming anymore, except Randall's Faithful.


He said it and I agree, we need to move on. Closing this thread would help the process.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This entire thread is apalling and only opens doors for more hard feelings .

For the record, I never recieved any mod e mail from T about all this .Nor did any other mod tell me about this back then.

My heart goes out to Charm who is the innocent one here. This will po many but 2 consenting adults get what they dish out and unfortunately, the loved ones get kicked in the rump.

T, you know I think the world of you but please let this go now. Let it stand as it is and let the chips fall.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boy aren't you gleeful about all this! Havin' a big old ball aren't you Randall? I'd like to fire back but i'm tired of this now. I think you are a disgusting human being. And I'm glad you are showing everyone your immature nasty side. That's all. Done with this. Better things to do.

Merry Christmas to you too teasel.

Later everyone

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posted December 16, 2014 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Proof that you talk behind my back. You sent this to me on 4/6/2011:

Okay. But not to worry. The site is not that important to me - to have to register under a new name, I mean. lol i've got better things to do.

I feel sorry for you, that you have these people sending you private emails that other people have sent to them, yet, leave out what they wrote because they want info to run back to you with and get brownie points (?) i don't know. It's weird. Like, back when Abs befriended me and talked crap about you, just to get me to do so & try to get me to join the secret group (they called themselves the "Secret LL squirrels"), then sent you all of the emails I sent to her, but left out what she wrote. LOL Classic. Yet kind of sad, too. What's going on with her?

I still have all of hers and what she wrote. But I need to say away from drama and nutcases. It's all quite sad to me. Best of luck to you Randall.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't read the whole thread, still. I got to page 4 and replied.

What's so appalling about the thread?

I don't understand.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11/24/2010:

I'd like to know about the "bit and pieces of a very intricate puzzle" if they involve me. You mentioned you would tell everyone "the story about us". We have a story? Yeah, a weird one. You mean how you played mind games with me back in the day and strung me along? How I flipped out on you a few times because of your cowardness among other things? Now this was all old news, forgiven and forgotten and recently old wounds were opened and you want to make me out to be a psychopath, pathalogical liar and drunk? Please, tell me more!

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posted December 16, 2014 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
This entire thread is apalling and only opens doors for more hard feelings .

For the record, I never recieved any mod e mail from T about all this .Nor did any other mod tell me about this back then.

My heart goes out to Charm who is the innocent one here. This will po many but 2 consenting adults get what they dish out and unfortunately, the loved ones get kicked in the rump.

T, you know I think the world of you but please let this go now. Let it stand as it is and let the chips fall.


I feel bad for Charmaine, as well. I wasn't the one to bring up her name.

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posted December 16, 2014 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11/24/2010:

BTW I did not "sway" anyone, nor was it my intention to, but I was a bit ****** off and spoke my mind. In fact I pretty much told you everything to your face. I'm sure you have heard about the secret LL group of women who all talked **** about you all the time anyway from what I'm told. I'm sure the people you think i was trying to "sway" are leaving a big part of it out. I still have all their emails too. I'm glad you think it was me putting lies in their heads and that i'm some sort of vindictive mastermind. I got quite an earful myself about you from the very person who was saying I could trust her and invited me to join the group. All YOU did was hurt people, not me. I'm glad you think you can see who is so "loyal" now. I feel sorry for you. No, you can't buy that type of knowledge. You look extremely foolish right now to a lot of people. Including the ones who are claiming to be your friend. I'm glad you think you have so many you can trust in. Good luck with that.

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