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DeepFreeze
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posted December 16, 2014 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
L checking in....

*bro hugs*

Checking out....

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2014 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have those e-mails? I thought you said I made them up?

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btw, i have those emails and Randall is ETA to them. This is becoming comical now.

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PisceanDream
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posted December 16, 2014 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I'm honest, I'll just say this whole thing has gone way too far and crossed boundaries that are entirely inappropriate. I hate to say this, but I feel rather uncomfortable and somewhat paranoid of LL now.

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2014 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The full picture? So, you're not flirting with me in that thread? I'm sure I can find plenty of others. It was just the first one in the search. You remind me of the child who gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar and still denies it. Just be honest. Is that such a foreign concept to you?

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2014 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, man.

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L checking in....

*bro hugs*

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2014 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you're certainly welcome to depart. Sorry to disillusion you about your clique leader, but you certainly didn't seem to have a problem with T slinging sh*t about me, did you? You, Faith, and Bella reveled in it. But I let the truth out. If it's uncomfortable, then so be it. I'm tired of the jabs and snipes by T against me on LL, and every time she does it in the future, I'm going to dig into some unpleasant places and do the same right back at her.

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If I'm honest, I'll just say this whole thing has gone way too far and crossed boundaries that are entirely inappropriate. I hate to say this, but I feel rather uncomfortable and somewhat paranoid of LL now.

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T
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posted December 16, 2014 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I can ask others to break their privacy and confirm it if need be. I think some of them will. My hope is that you would stop slandering me on LL, and we can put this to rest.

Oh, please do!

Once again, stop slandering me off of LL and I won't slander you to your face here. & yes, you have said many things behind my back besides what you "revealed" here. I'd love to "reveal" more about you to everyone here, but I will hold back. I'm sorry you were too immature not to earlier.

Also stop making up crazy lies like i wanted to meet you and liked you and especially about emails and saying i am somehow interfering with your FB group in some way? WTF? I hope it's obvious to more people than me, what you were trying to do there. Sick.

Yeah, "insane" and a "drunk", you've said that on the forums and off over the years. Not the first time you've acted like a two year old and spouted those words off to me. Real classy and sensitive of you. btw

You have shown just how immature you really are here (once again) tonight and to me that proves one of my many points. Most people who have known you for a number of years know just how "insane" you really are. I only became privy to that later on and it confirmed what I was thinking already. You can call me whatever you like to whoever you like, but many people here already know what you are all about and I don't even need to say a thing.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If everyone is done, I will close this. Are you, T? Are you done? God forbid I should close this before you get the last word in.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
If I'm honest, I'll just say this whole thing has gone way too far and crossed boundaries that are entirely inappropriate. I hate to say this, but I feel rather uncomfortable and somewhat paranoid of LL now.

PD. What would you do if the same user on your site that took repeated pleasure in antagonizing you, at their whim, disappearing, then reappearing and continuing the whole thing all over again, ad nauseum, was also someone that you're unable to ban from said site.

I'm curious.

These seem to me to be special circumstances.

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T
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posted December 16, 2014 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me read the posts that came in while i was writing my posts and then i will tell you.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AFFIDAVIT

I hereby affirm under penalty of perjury that everything I've posted on this thread is true and factual to the extent of my knowledge and that what was not known by me personally has been so designated in the aforementioned.

The following shall serve as my digital signature: RM

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posted December 16, 2014 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Well, you're certainly welcome to depart. Sorry to disillusion you about your clique leader, but you certainly didn't seem to have a problem with T slinging sh*t about me, did you? You, Faith, and Bella reveled in it. But I let the truth out. If it's uncomfortable, then so be it. I'm tired of the jabs and snipes by T against me on LL, and every time she does it in the future, I'm going to dig into some unpleasant places and do the same right back at her.


newsflash

I am sick of the same thing, except you do it behind my back. What's the difference?

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posted December 16, 2014 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't mean to get in your way, Randall. And I apologize.
Didn't expect you to be posting at the same time.

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PisceanDream
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posted December 16, 2014 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Sorry to disillusion you about your clique leader, but you certainly didn't seem to have a problem with T slinging sh*t about me, did you? You, Faith, and Bella reveled in it.


What kind of issue do you have with me, exactly? You seem to desperately want to pin something on me. You keep making empty baseless accusations towards me. Where did I talk sh*t about you? Where did I encourage T to talk sh*t about you? Where did I say that it's only okay that she does it but it's not when you do? She aired out drama just like everyone does on this damn website. I don't recall her cussing you out or riling people up against you. Where did she "sling sh*t" about you? You're exaggerating.

Did I stop you from this hullabaloo that you threw here? I interjected only when I saw that her name was exposed.

If there's anything that you can quote that I did/said that encouraged the actions you are accusing me of, do it. But don't point fingers at me because you're upset.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
AFFIDAVIT

I hereby affirm under penalty of perjury that everything I've posted on this thread is true and factual to the extent of my knowledge and that what was not known by me personally has been so designated in the aforementioned.

The following shall serve as my digital signature: RM


Sorry folks, but he's ************ again. I can't get angry about it because I assume no one is taking him seriously at this point.

I still want to know what that rocker guy's name was. Randall I know you know it. Tell me so I can share that email and every one else can have a laugh too.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I don't talk behind your back. I haven't said anything bad or good about you in recent history. I do believe someone has been playing both of us against each other; however, that still does not detract from the fact that you blatantly denied the facts that youj know are true. While I feel genuinely sorry for you having been lied to by others about me (no doubt to rile you up), that empathy is clouded by your denials of what you know is truth in my posts (subject to your memory, of course).

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posted December 16, 2014 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries!

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Don't mean to get in your way, Randall. And I apologize.
Didn't expect you to be posting at the same time.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a problem with you. I do have a problem with hypocrisy. You lack of directing criticism to T for her slander is what I'm talking about, but you are quick to do so at me. And I expect such. But I'm not upset at all. Instead, I'm actually glad to get this out in the open and hopefully resolved.

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What kind of issue do you have with me, exactly? You seem to desperately want to pin something on me. You keep making empty baseless accusations towards me. Where did I talk sh*t about you? Where did I encourage T to talk sh*t about you? Where did I say that it's only okay that she does it but it's not when you do? She aired out drama just like everyone does on this damn website. I don't recall her cussing you out or riling people up against you. Where did she "sling sh*t" about you? You're exaggerating.

Did I stop you from this hullabaloo that you threw here? I interjected only when I saw that her name was exposed.

If there's anything that you can quote that I did/said that encouraged the actions you are accusing me of, do it. But don't point fingers at me because you're upset.


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posted December 16, 2014 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PD. What would you do if the same user on your site that took repeated pleasure in antagonizing you, at their whim, disappearing, then reappearing and continuing the whole thing all over again, ad nauseum, was also someone that you're unable to ban from said site.

I'm curious.

These seem to me to be special circumstances.


Lonake, this is not my drama therefore I'm not participating in the bulk of the problem. My concern is the rules on LL that seem to be violated, disrespected, and disconsidered.

Webmaster, just as president (to use his analogy) isn't an easy task. He has a responsibility to make sure that others and he himself are abiding by the rules. And especially has to live up to a very high standard, given that he is webmaster. If this were not him involved, the thread would have certainly been locked ages ago. I am not here to critique the details of their issues or the drama surrounding them, I'm here to ensure that throwing people's names out there is not okay. Perpetuating drama that you know you'd have ended if other members is not okay.

That's all I'm saying and I'd like to think I'm justified in saying so.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But I don't tgalk behind your back. I haven't said anything bad or good about you in recent history. I do believe someone has been playing both of us against each other; however, that still does not detract from the fact that you blatantly denied the facts that youj know are true. While I feel genuinely sorry for you having been lied to by others about me (no doubt to rile you up), that empathy is clouded by your denials of what you know is truth in my posts (subject to your memory, of course).

I feel sorry for you as well. Mainly because you can't admit to your faults or apologize for lies you've told. Until then, we won't be able to have a serious conversation. If you are going to continue on with your stories then I won't be able to take you seriously. So let's just leave it at this and go about our merry ways. I believe you have gotten out all of your BS to the FB members over the years and will be able to move on now like a normal person now. I truly hope so.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PD. Fwiw, as I read the rules you quoted, they allude to someone giving out their own personal info. And they seem to absolve LL of the responsibility for such actions.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't have a problem with you. I do have a problem with hypocrisy.


Point out my hypocrisy, please. Go through all my comments since this kerfuffle began. Did I tell you: "how dare you sling sh*t about T?" Certainly, I did not verbally attempt to stop you from doing what you're doing. I did advise T to either say she's done and put an end to it or to defend herself.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PisceanDream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PD. Fwiw, as I read the rules you quoted, they allude to someone giving out their own personal info. And they seem to absolve LL of the responsibility for such actions.

Lol... But he gave out her name? Does that mean that's okay, then? It does the converse of what you said. He released the information. That would make him liable. That is a violation of user privacy.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't have a problem with you. I do have a problem with hypocrisy. You lack of directing criticism to T for her slander is what I'm talking about, but you are quick to do so at me. And I expect such. But I'm not upset at all. Instead, I'm actually glad to get this out in the open and hopefully resolved.


Stop slandering me! Once you do that and maybe take back some of the lies you said, then the problem will be over.

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posted December 16, 2014 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What makes it okay is that T has been slandering me here for years. Even now, she can't apologize for anything. I do apologize for my part. And I would have continued to ignore her, but she crossed the line. So, yeah, since she brought it to LL, it needed to be aired out. And she thinks I'm saying stuff behind her back, which I certainly am not.

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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Lonake, this is not my drama therefore I'm not participating in the bulk of the problem. My concern is the rules on LL that seem to be violated, disrespected, and disconsidered.

Webmaster, just as president (to use his analogy) isn't an easy task. He has a responsibility to make sure that others and he himself are abiding by the rules. And especially has to live up to a very high standard, given that he is webmaster. If this were not him involved, the thread would have certainly been locked ages ago. I am not here to critique the details of their issues or the drama surrounding them, I'm here to ensure that throwing people's names out there is not okay. Perpetuating drama that you know you'd have ended if other members is not okay.

That's all I'm saying and I'd like to think I'm justified in saying so.


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