posted December 17, 2014 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I didn't want to get involved in this but I have noticed that alot of people around here seem to be taking T's side so I feel compelled to stick up for randall. First of all, I want to say that ever since I have been posting here I have seen T taking shots at Randall and "from what I have seen" Randall overlooks it and doesn't respond in kind most of the time. I have seen her imply that Randall is a pervert because he dates a younger woman etc. and she has also done things like bump an old thread in sweetpeas from ages ago where they were flirting to start drama. Now I don't know the whole story but I definitely get the impression that T is having a bad case of sour grapes based off of what I have seen. I am not trying to add to the drama here by any means. I just wanted to share this for the people who think Randall is some kind of villian and are on T's side so that they might be better informed.

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aquaguy, this is what you call continuing the drama.

And you have taunted me before saying I was jealous. That couldn't be further from the truth. No sour grapes here. And that was one of my main gripes and reasons I was PO'd because you and many others have the wrong idea. Just because someone is angry about things does not mean they are jealous or have a case of sour grapes.

I can see why you hold the opinion you do. I have not always been on my best behavior, but it's for reasons that you aren't understanding. All i can tell you is you are entitled to see things however you want to, but I'll let you know you are wrong. And we can leave it at that.

posted December 17, 2014 07:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Charmaine:

And Teasel: we haven't communicated in months. Do not email me complaining about Neez blocking you. That has NOTHING to do me. This is how unnecessary trouble starts. That is between the two of you - don't involve me.

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I didn't know her well at all, and didn't even know why she'd added me. I said something, because it is a result of your treating me as though I'm an accomplice in something that I know nothing about, and *I'm* sick of it. We haven't communicated in months, because of that same tired crap - that *you* keep throwing back at me.

I have been working to get over all sorts of things, too. This sort of thing doesn't help *my* health, either: mental or physical. It seems that my stomach problem is mainly an issue of stress/trauma. It started almost five years ago, but I might have got a handle on it a lot sooner, if I hadn't been dealing with so much BS online and off. You, and others, knew what I was dealing with offline, so why would you add to that? Do you know that people have DIED from what I'm dealing with??? I couldn't keep food or liquids down for so long, that I'm amazed that I'm still alive. The last casualty was a girl in her late twenties. Fun, huh? I could f'king die from this, and there is no way to fix it, only ways to tentatively control it.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt a few weeks ago, wrote something, but then deleted it later. I believe when you say that someone is harassing you, but it is NOT me, and I do NOT know who it is. I don't go around gossiping about you, either - I have my own **** to deal with. So STOP blaming me, STOP attacking me, and YOU let it go.

posted December 17, 2014 07:27 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The question is will you be able to behave and stop taking jabs on a regular basis? I admitted that I don't know the whole story but based off what I have seen you try awfully hard to get under his skin.

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I have gotten under his skin before but it's not on a regular basis. Give me a break. Don't act like that's all I do here. 99% of the time I am here to converse with my friends and have a good time. In the past especially when things were still going on, I could get out of line. I admit it. So demonize me for the rest of my life. But for the most part I keep myself in check here.

posted December 17, 2014 07:30 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The truth always comes out.

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posted December 17, 2014 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
The feelings of more than two people matter - *everyone's* feelings matter.

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posted December 17, 2014 07:44 AM            

Sorry to hear you're still dealing with the stomach issues. Yes, stress and trauma are extremely hard on the system.

Sorry to hear other stuff is bothering you off forum. I think most people know you would never harass someone. What amazes me is the people that are really connected here and attached to LL have a tendency to think people are out to get them or spending their days and nights gossiping about them. Who has the time or energy for that? I don't understand it and have to sometimes wonder how much of it is actually true, or if it's people making up or exaggerating stories to use to get others suspicious of certain people. I can't make sense of it. Or is it a matter of huge egos and thinking they are that important? I don't know.

Just want you to know that I understand what you're going through and try not to let it bother you. You know yourself, your truth and your heart. That's all that really matters.

K. I might need to get a little more sleep. Hopefully this thread doesn't blow up. I really don't have anymore energy for this....

posted December 17, 2014 08:22 AM            

This is Gaslighting because YOU do it and say others are

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posted December 17, 2014 08:27 AM            

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIW_2VObIsA

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posted December 17, 2014 08:54 AM            

If someone wants to really make amends with me, then do it: don't be nice to me, and then suddenly treat me like a cockroach, or someone up to no good. Apologies, followed by more of the same just doesn't cut it. I'm not supposed to be exposed to anything stressful, which is downright hilarious when I think of the past five or so years. And I grew tired of being told that I should be the one to leave, just because certain people kept this sort of thing up. I'm isolated enough as it is.

posted December 17, 2014 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Charmaine:
Teasel, it's strange that after months you randomly message me to complain about someone who blocked you. As I've said before: it's not my business and I'm not getting involved.
I never started a thread about YOU. Show me this thread. What did happen was when you jumped into a thread and ASSUMED that I was refering to you. I thought we cleared that up already but you keep bringing it up too.

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I remember that. I was surprised you thought it was you, Teasel.

I am your friend and you are mine.

We have been through a lot and I trust what you say is from a good heart and you can do the same with me, I hope.

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posted December 17, 2014 09:01 AM            

Like you, if someone gives me attitude, I give it right back. I don't go around being mean to anyone for no reason.

I have made amends with you more than once but it goes sour very quickly. The same cycle starts.

posted December 17, 2014 09:09 AM            

To this day since the day she and "cleared the air", we have had no "beef" with the other, no drama etc. My choice to do did affect some friendships due to their personal feelings towards Ami but it was a choice and the right choice for me and my personal growth. Holding onto those old grudges did no good.

posted December 17, 2014 09:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Charmaine:
T, there is and was no reason to be jealous of you. If that is what you thought then you're thinking was flawed. What happened in the past between you guys is in the past.

Like you, if someone gives me attitude, I give it right back. I don't go around being mean to anyone for no reason.

I have made amends with you more than once but it goes sour very quickly. The same cycle starts.

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Huh?? Charmaine, you misunderstood what I said. I was talking about me being accused of being jealous of you or your relationship. Which is totally absurd and yes, it has annoyed me. I had no idea until yesterday when he said it here, that Randall was telling people I was a stalker among many other things. So it all makes sense now and I can see how he's gotten people to think things like that. I've never felt the slightest twinge of jealousy towards anything having to do with either of you. Why would i?

I have never once thought you were jealous of me either.

I don't go around being mean to people for no reason either. So please don't try to go there. I always have my reasons for doing something. I might not have handled things the best way in the past, but I don't do things out of just plain random meanness. That is not me.

You have not made amends with me more than once. I have many times tried to calm you down and I think we sorted things out a couple of times and then yes, the same cycle started over. Please do not even try to blame it all on me and act like you have never been "mean" to me for no reason before. I will not take the heat for it all.

Anyway, I still don't mind you and think you are probably a good person. Sorry, you have the wrong idea about me and have been led to think otherwise.

posted December 17, 2014 09:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Charmaine:
A few months ago, I made amends with the one person who got to me the most here: Ami.
It was a conscious decision and part of laying the past to rest. There was no love lost between either of us and everyone knew how I felt about Ami - it was no secret.

To this day since the day she and "cleared the air", we have had no "beef" with the other, no drama etc. My choice to do did affect some friendships due to their personal feelings towards Ami but it was a choice and the right choice for me and my personal growth. Holding onto those old grudges did no good.

No, we don't have the same beliefs blah blah but I'm just grateful that we came to an understanding and have a mutual respect for each other.

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It's nice that you two have been able to do that. I just want to point out that not everyone can do that with her. As you can see in her last post, above to me, she continues to taunt and try to keep drama going with a select few.

So, while it's nice that she knows who she can get away with bashing and who she can't and act accordingly, not everyone can have that kind of happy ending with certain people here. And it doesn't mean that they weren't able to do what you did and put beef behind or whathaveyou.

As many were trying to discuss the other day, the rules apply to some and not others, but webmaster thought it'd be better to fight with me than address the issues that really need to be addressed here.

posted December 17, 2014 09:56 AM            

YOU go after people and say THEY are doing it LOL

You did that with Randall for 6 years that I saw.

I really do not have a personal problem with you if you are nice to people for whom I care.

I only have a problem with people who are truly evil and that is not you.

I think you have issues which you bring here and you hurt people with them but I do not think you are evil lol

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