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wilsontc
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posted September 19, 2006 05:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fellow Astro-travellers,

Whatever sign Saturn is in our birth chart indicates how we tend to defend ourselves in our lives. For example, I have Pisces (spirituality) modifying Saturn, so I tend to use the "spiritual" defense (also known as the "poor me" syndrome..."How could you DO that to me!"). It also indicates I tend to look for a "spiritual" sense of how things are structured (Saturn) in my life.

If you have questions, let me know...for the rest of you, how do you defend yourself? What's your structural "base"? Let's hear how "base" we all can be!

Spiritually structured,

Tim

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luisbunuel
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posted September 20, 2006 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for luisbunuel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have saturn in cancer. Would make anyone repressed, I should think!

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posted September 20, 2006 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for and     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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so I tend to use the "spiritual" defense (also known as the "poor me" syndrome..."How could you DO that to me!"

LOL....

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wilsontc
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posted September 20, 2006 03:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
luis,

Ah, yes! The "emotional" (Cancer) defense!

Emotionally,

Tim

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katipo
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posted September 20, 2006 03:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>> Saturn in Aries --- So it's probable that I'm forthright or aggressive in defence.

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wilsontc
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posted September 20, 2006 03:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
katipo,

That sounds right to me!

Agreeing,

Tim

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posted September 21, 2006 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in Gemini

Chatty in defense...logical... emotionally distant...playful...seeing all the possibilities...adaptable.

Yeah, that makes sense.

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mysticaldream
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posted September 21, 2006 08:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like Katipo, I have Saturn in Aries

so I would agree -- agressively (or angrily), at least that is my first response before I take a step back.

I have lately realized when I am angry or frustrated, whatever response I FEEL is appropriate or warranted.....if I tone it down by about 50%.....then I don't regret it 5 minutes later.

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wilsontc
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posted September 21, 2006 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG and mystical,

Spot on!

Britishly,

Tim

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shirty
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posted September 22, 2006 10:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in Sagittarius..

I would say I defend myself by forcing the person to look at the big picture.. so they will leave the petty details alone!

I'll pull out my philosophical and spiritual beliefs and use them to defend my position.

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wilsontc
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posted September 22, 2006 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shirty,

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

Appreciatively,

Tim

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shirty
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posted September 22, 2006 01:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tim

And actually, to be more specific I wouldn't use the word 'forcefully' to describe my defense mechanism. It's more of a tactless, bumbling, hoping-they-get-my-point sort of defense.

But, you know.

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posted September 22, 2006 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Saturn is in our birth chart indicates how we tend to defend ourselves
I've never thought of it like that!

Saturn in Leo in VII, 'you're not good enough for me' syndrome here

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wilsontc
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posted September 22, 2006 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri,

Ah, yes! The "ego defense"!

Egonically,

Tim

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mysticaldream
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posted September 22, 2006 10:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You're not good enough for me"

LOL, that's something Librans think, but don't actually say all the time!!!


Just kidding.......just kidding.......

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 24, 2006 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
saturn in sag in the 12th.....the big-picturesque-spiritual-defense???


Correct me if I'm wrong

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wilsontc
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posted September 24, 2006 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dulce,

With Sagittarius (expansion, also wisdom) modifying Saturn, you might defend yourself with what you know.

Knowingly,

Tim

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amisha121877
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posted September 25, 2006 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amisha121877     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
saturn in virgo - 1st house

i have the - i'm not done or nearly there yet / i have so much to do first - syndrome / mostly with myself.

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wilsontc
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posted September 25, 2006 05:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
amisha,

Nice self-analysis!

A fellow Virgo,

Tim

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shirty
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posted September 26, 2006 11:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Dulce..

I have Saturn in Sag as well and as I posted above, I usually defend myself with grand ideas and knowledge.. philosophies, etc.

Maybe its the same for you? Mines in the 5th house though, a lot different from the 12th.. :P

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posted September 27, 2006 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in Taurus...

I suppose my defense would be "Fine, I am taking my toys and going home!" or it could be "I will stubbornly sit here like an immovable object, snort, grunt and basically paw at the floor while you waste your time trying to explain something to me that I have no desire to hear".

Hmm.... I would say that I have used both tactics in my life. If I can't get away from the person or situation, I will sit there stoically until the person has finished and then I leave.

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 27, 2006 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Shirty (and Wilson), that was kind of what I was getting at. The grandiose ideas and such. I guess since its placed in the 12th, for me it may be spiritual knowledge and ideas. I've also noticed that I'm pretty stubborn about those type of things-no one can change my mind; only I can.

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wilsontc
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posted September 28, 2006 01:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pidaua,

Thanks for your thoughts!

Thanking you,

Tim

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amisha121877
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posted October 18, 2006 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amisha121877     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks tim

aren't we so critical/observant or what?

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Randall
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posted October 23, 2006 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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