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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 28, 2014 04:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, Orange

I liked this part, because I've noticed how significant semisextiles seem to be in synastries, not to mention the quincunx.

A note on 150 and 30 degrees natal Sun Venus aspects - they appear very often when we have progressed conjunctions, oppositions and trines. For years people have interpreted these aspects in isolation, but we have a reason not to look at them on their own now. If you ever see one in a relationship look for the progressions of the same two planets - they move about a degree a year and after approx 25 to 30 years often become 120, 180 or 0 degree aspects.


I have a question. I don't seem to grasp the rate of these aspects happening between two people. For example, in 30 years, how many of these pSun square pVenus will they have, roughly?

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posted May 28, 2014 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ah .. so can I assume that with the first one there was no off-and-on thing from the time you met online to the time of the actual meeting? If yes, that would indeed be telling.

The first one (where my SUN was progressed to square his VENUS 1°, separating), is my Twin, who I first met online.

The second is an on-again / off-again 'complicated' relationship which finally became sorted last October, and has stayed on and deepened. He's what I determined to be a 'Guardian Soul'; one who is specially tasked with helping to prepare you for the eventual Twin Flame Reunion.

In that case, my progressed SUN was square his natal VENUS by 2°, applying. And his KARMA, too, as they're conjunct and on my 12H NNODE-OSIRIS.

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posted May 28, 2014 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jjj:
Dont know if this is significant, but for the next 10-15 years my pr Venus will be on their prVenus/prMars midpoint and their pr Venus will be on my prVenus/prMars midpoint... is this significant?

Good question! My Twin's progressed VENUS/MARS will be lingering over my natal DSC for quite some time, too. Conversely, my progressed VENUS-PLUTO will be trine his natal MARS during this time.

Who can say exactly? Surely, there will be some intensity. I think how the points are positioned both natally and in the progressions will show the 'state' of things.

For example, tCHIRON is crossing that progressed VENUS-MARS; so as I've got it in my 7H and opposing my natal VENUS, he's experiencing a progressed conjunction.

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posted May 28, 2014 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you so much, Orange

I liked this part, because I've noticed how significant semisextiles seem to be in synastries, not to mention the quincunx.

[b]A note on 150 and 30 degrees natal Sun Venus aspects - they appear very often when we have progressed conjunctions, oppositions and trines. For years people have interpreted these aspects in isolation, but we have a reason not to look at them on their own now. If you ever see one in a relationship look for the progressions of the same two planets - they move about a degree a year and after approx 25 to 30 years often become 120, 180 or 0 degree aspects.


I have a question. I don't seem to grasp the rate of these aspects happening between two people. For example, in 30 years, how many of these pSun square pVenus will they have, roughly?[/B]



Oow I loved this part also.
We're a perfect example of this (NOT Mr. progr. square as I'm pretty convinced the square is keeping us apart).
So, let's call the one I'm talking about now Mr. Cap.
His Sun is quincunx my Venus in synastry by 1,5.

I met him early 2012 when my progressed venus in an applying (2'54) trine to his progressed Sun.

NOW (2 years later) it's still in an applying trine of 2'25 degree.

So you see... a very long time for these progressed 2 to go before the peak will arrive in 2025.

So, will we ever have a pr.Sun-pr.Venus square between these progr. 2 ^^ ? No, life is too short for that.

I guess.. it's about the same story with a Sun/Venus semi-sextile in synastry. Will there ever be a chance for these 2 in the progressions to become a square? I guess not...

So yea.. these are really the long term walkers of the progressed synastry! Most preferable to have I would say.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 28, 2014 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Mir, this is so interesting...

Definitely some alignments with the semi-sextiles.

I will have to check solar arc for our Venus/Pluto semi-sextile.

My progressed Venus opposite his progressed Sun at the time of the meeting will remain so until the end of times lol

However, our Venus quincunx Venus in synastry never seems to become a trine.

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posted May 28, 2014 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ow wait a second...

This is only and specifically valid for the progressed SUN and VENUS ... being measured from the regular speed motion of Sun & Venus.


(Venus retro wouldn't be a part of this regularity)


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My progressed Venus opposite his progressed Sun at the time of the meeting will remain so until the end of times lol

This is interesting.
At how many degrees is this aspect applying now?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 28, 2014 11:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Ow wait a second...

This is only and specifically valid for the progressed SUN and VENUS ... being measured from the regular speed motion of Sun & Venus.


(Venus retro wouldn't be a part of this regularity)


Oh, yes, that's right

Not even Venus to Venus though?

I think Venus Pluto in solar arc might show a similar pattern, starting from the semi-sextile.

Anyways, the idea is there, I noticed very significant semi-sextile patterns in long-term couples and now I'm inspired to see a connection between those and progressions, another research theme

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posted May 28, 2014 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha ok! It's really worth yea..

No, not even Venus-Venus .. in regularity they would have about the same speed motion.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 28, 2014 11:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now my Venus to his Sun applying 1 deg. since our meeting 9 months ago.

Not till the end of time, I rectify: 50 years from now my Venus begins to move away from the initial FM position opposing his Sun, slowly. We still have a lot of time though! hahahahahahaha

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posted May 28, 2014 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The day we first met, his progressed sun was exactly quincunx my natal venus. Does that count?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 28, 2014 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
Haha ok! It's really worth yea..

No, not even Venus-Venus .. in regularity they would have about the same speed motion.


Yeah, that was stupid of me...I got carried away by the inspiration lol

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posted May 28, 2014 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not till the end of time, I rectify: 50 years from now my Venus begins to move away from the initial FM position opposing his Sun, slowly. We still have a lot of time though! hahahahahahaha

Wow yea indeed... I torture myself too much with the peak in 2025. As if it all ends there. But counted from the initial FM we're assured of another 13, till 2038! L o v e l y reminder

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LeeLoo2014
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Originally posted by mir:
Wow yea indeed... I torture myself too much with the peak in 2025. As if it all ends there. But counted from the initial FM we're assured of another 13, till 2038! L o v e l y reminder

I'm pretty sure it can't all depend on a poor Venus/Sun square or trine or whatever. I mean, most long-term couples must have experienced a Venus/Sun square, right??

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posted May 28, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ow yess for sure! But that would mainly be the short term version like N.Venus/P.Sun or P.Venus/N.Sun. Point is.. do we have signifcant trine/conj/opp. alternatives simultaneously to let the game go on?

Black is from Westran himself;

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"How would a PVenus square NSun and a PVenus Trine NSun play out together... I guess, what factors do you look at to see which one will over play the other- the square or the trine?"

In the case you quote, I think the trine has won already because a relationship has happened. The square will probably make the couple work and compromise and thats how relationships work so it will most likely be a positive situation. Squares are often judged very helpful in the longer term while they can be a bit uncomfortable or awkward in the short term.


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posted May 28, 2014 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shamelessly chiming in, here...


I read somewhere that when there's a conjunction to the natal or progressed ASC of a natal or progressed planet, someone who reflects that planet will come into one's life.
(I may be wrong by the way, someone correct me if this sounds incorrect.)

Has anyone experienced this?

Does it work with transits and other aspects, not only the conjunction?


Sorry if this is off topic.

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Not in progressions, but I just am in the last throes of sa DESC conjunct natal Saturn. And my sa Jupiter is activating my Sun/Moon-mp (heading to a peak in the next weeks).

*sighs* Where is the Sagittarian-Capricornian soulmate when the astrology indicates it?

I find it interesting how Transit Jupiter will be conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp in June, as well, repeating the solar arc picture. If nothing else, it is interesting at least.


As for progressions, boring at the momlent.


my pr ASC is just separating from a square to my Pluto (which had been accompanied by Transit Pluto being conjunct pr ASC, for the last months, but is easing off now)


2 years from now looks interesting in my progressions.


pr Mars conjunct n Venus (applying 1 degree - it is not at 3 applying)

pr DESC heading to a conjunction to pr SAturn

pr Moon conjunct pr Vertex on 23 Leo exact (pr Moon will stay for a whle in my pr 7th house)


and pr NN exactly conjunct my natal ASC.


At the moment there are mor the boring aspects happening


pr Sun trine pr DESC applying to exactness
pr Venus sextile n Sun exact

pr Juno conjunct IC


pr Moon had been on my natal Vertex and Sun-Moon-mp but is already separating by 1-2 degrees, and I certainly did not meet any soulmate


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posted May 28, 2014 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your upcoming transits/progressions look promising, Ceri.

Hang in there!

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 28, 2014 03:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Shamelessly chiming in, here...


I read somewhere that when there's a [b]conjunction
to the natal or progressed ASC of a natal or progressed planet, someone who reflects that planet will come into one's life.
(I may be wrong by the way, someone correct me if this sounds incorrect.)

Has anyone experienced this?

Does it work with transits and other aspects, not only the conjunction?


Sorry if this is off topic.[/B]


Hm. This is interesting and it sounds logical. I haven't checked for several situations yet, but I'll repost our stats for our FM:


It verifies for us too:

My progressed Sun conjunct his progressed ASC (1)
My progressed Venus conjunct his progressed ASC (2)
My progressed Venus opposite his progressed Sun (5)
His progressed Venus conjunct my progressed ASC (1)
My progressed Mars conjunct his progressed ASC (1)
His progressed Mars trine my progressed Sun (2)
His progressed Mars trine my progressed Venus (5)


So in our case, ASC is definitely involved.


He also had his progressed Venus conjunct his natal Sun and we had other significant connections with progressions - you can find them in Cappy's virginity thread


EDIT: I mean...not Cappy's....just a general virginity

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LeeLoo2014
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

*sighs* Where is the Sagittarian-Capricornian soulmate when the astrology indicates it?


Ahem...maybe a little bit down the road in the sign associated with number.....11?

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posted May 28, 2014 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jjj:
Dont know if this is significant, but for the next 10-15 years my pr Venus will be on their prVenus/prMars midpoint and their pr Venus will be on my prVenus/prMars midpoint... is this significant?

Ooow I LOVE to see these kind of things simultaneously.

We have the same, but with the descendant;

At this right-now moment;

- My progressed Venus/Mars midpoint is 3 degr. ahead of his progressed descendant.

- His progressed Venus/Mars midpoint is 3 degr. ahead of my progressed descendant.


The exactness (matter of minutes only) of this 'same phase angle' currently is pretty amazing.

But .. what happens on the long run?

His progr. descendant is much faster than mine. So yea.. it will pass my progr. Venus/Mars midpoint within a few years.
But that is NOT the case with my pogr. descendant which will never pass his progr. V/M midpoint - that distance in-between will approx. always stay the same.

Ok so.. that means that in 2025 (one big culmination then haha) we do not have a "Same Phase angle" anymore... but wat do we have then?

Well then it's time for the opposite of a "same phase angle" .. yesss a waxing/waning thing instead of a waxing/waxing or waning/waning thing (whatever u may call it).

.. time for the PROGRESSED COMPOSITE to take over! (we all know that a composite conj/opp. is the result of a waxing/waning thing in synastry)

So, in the progressed composite we will then find the venus/mars midpoint conjunct the descendant.


hehe , I'm done now.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 28, 2014 03:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You see, Mir? No more 2025...it's actually a neverending story

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ahem...maybe a little bit down the road in the sign associated with number.....11?

(I better not tell anyone that currently I have progressed Sun, Mercury and Venus in Aquarius. lol)

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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 28, 2014 06:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol what did I do???

have I just edited YOU?


oh, sorry...I didn't know I can do that hahahaha

I have no idea what I did, Ceri, I think I edited part of your post while trying to quote it. Still struggling with the magical powers of Mods here, sorry.

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LeeLoo2014
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
(I better not tell anyone that currently I have progressed Sun, Mercury and Venus in Aquarius. lol)

Aha...gotcha!

You know, many AQUAS have a LOT of planets in Sag and Cap But you know that better than me lol

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posted May 29, 2014 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering why the following happens (is it due to retrograde motion?):

Virgo Venus (not retro in natal) just gets stuck and doesnt progress and will stay progressed between the first degrees in Virgo FOREVER, thus CONJUNCT to her own and someone else's natal and progressed Pluto FOR the NEXT TEN YEARS (then Venus finally starts to progress). Will it feel like a Venus-Pluto conjunction in synastry (these two people dont have) and how will it reflect? Easier than in synastry or worse? lol And who will feel the effect more? Venus or Pluto person?

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