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etoile03
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posted August 21, 2008 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etoile03     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I realise that this is an old thread but I just recently found the stuff on Paul Westran and tried it out...

Natal Natal synastry

his Sun trine my mars at 0.01°a
sun sun trine 2.10°a

Progressed to progressed for 1st meeting date

sun trine sun 1.46a

His natal to my prgressed

his n sun trine my prgressed venus 1.05a

My prog vs natal

pr venus conj n sun 1.08s
pr venus conj n mars 1.03a

his transits vs natal

tr venus conj n mars 0.40s

seems to at least partially support the theory

Interestingly i checked the progressions for a date a long time in the future also ie 2030 lol and this is what came up

prog to prog

sun trine sun 1.04°a
venus opp venus 1.03°s

my natal vs his prog

sun opp sun 0.50°s
my mars opp his pr sun 1.20°a

his natal vs my prog

his venus trine my prog mars 0.15°a

mmm I have a warm fuzzy feeling ....


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Lara
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posted August 21, 2008 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so do you mean like this please DD?

his n sun trine my n venus
his pr venus trine my n mars
my pr venus trine his pr mars
his n sun trine my n AC
his n sun trine my pr DC
my pr venus trine his n DC
his pr mars trine my pr AC

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Diandra23
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posted December 14, 2008 09:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bumping for the newbies

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Lara
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posted December 14, 2008 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the man l met last week we have these:

His natal venus trine my natal sun (0)
My pr mars sextile his pr mars (1)
My pr venus trine his natal sun (0)
His pr mars conjunct my natal venus (2)
His pr venus trine my natal AC (1)
His pr venus trine my pr DC (2)
His pr venus sextile my natal AC (2)

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Diandra23
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posted December 14, 2008 11:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i´ve discovered some pretty contacts also the day we met - but in the Sec Arc onto the Natals.

Among other ones:in 2 degrees

His

Sun cj my Saturn
Moon cj my Amor
Venus trine NN
Mars trine Venus - here it is
Saturn cj Amor
NN cj DSC
vALENTINE CJ mc
Amor cj ASC
Union cj Amor
DSC TRINE NN - DW!
MC cj Juno - DW with my DSC cj his Juno

Mine

Sun cj Venus
Moon trine DSC 0
Moon cj VALENTINE 0
Moon trine Moon
NN cj NN
VX cj Karma 2
Juno trine Venus and DSC
Valentine trine Juno
Karma trine Karma
Eros trine Eros
AC cj Pluto
IC cj DSC 0º08
DSC cj Juno

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posted December 14, 2008 12:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

according to the research those would be the strongest ones:

"His natal venus trine my natal sun (0)"
Always good to have basic synastry.

"My pr venus trine his natal sun (0)"
This is the one he found most significant in the start of a relationship, as it signifies the wish to settle down together and much affection between the parties.
However, if it is exact, it means this aspect is MOST intense now and will lose in strength over the next years.


"His pr mars conjunct my natal venus (2)"
Is this applying or separating?
If it is separating the delicious sexual chemistry could fizzle out in a short time (unless of course you have other sizzling progressed and natal aspects)


"His pr venus trine my natal AC (1)"
His pr venus trine my pr DC (2)
His pr venus sextile my natal AC (2)"
How is it possible that his pr Venus sextiles and trines your natal ASC?

However, Venus in contact to the ASC-DSC-angle in conjunct, opposition, trine or sextile of course is pretty delicious, too.
But again is it applying or separating?

On a not astrological note: how did the date go?
Did it went as well as you expected?

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Lara
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posted December 14, 2008 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe

i mean his pr venus trine my pr AC, sorry...

The "His pr mars conjunct my natal venus (2)" is applying!!

It went really well, thanks
I wrote about it in the first meeting chart thread

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posted December 14, 2008 01:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WEll, if it is applying you can look forward to some fireworks I guess.

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Lara
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posted December 14, 2008 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe

yeah it's applying!

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darkdreamer
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posted February 27, 2009 07:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump

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posted March 05, 2009 10:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone provide more data of their relationships?

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Metatron
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posted March 22, 2009 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure I can

Well even though nothing serious happened between me and this girl yet,i feel there is some sort of a bond between us, some kind of attraction. I felt that the moment i got to know her better.

Looking into progress-progress aspects i found:

mars opposite venus(3°), it will be within 2 degree in a year or so.

sun trine DC (same degree)

In her progress to my natal we have DC trine DC (same degree)

I listed this aspects according to Paul Wetran's theory. However there's something else going on in our progressed charts, and i'm not sure if i undertand it all very good.

It seems to me that her progress to my natal has a very big impact, that would probably explain why i feel so much for her.

She has progressed Venus, moon, chiron, mercury and NN all in my 7th natal house. Her progressed sun is on my 8th cusp. Besides that:

her Venus con my NN (1°21')
her Moon con my NN(1°14')
her Venus con my Chron(4°)
her Sun con my Chiron(1°7')

Her Vtx con my mars (1°33)

My important(in my opinion) progressed aspects to her natal are:

my mars con SN (same degree)
my moon con her Vtx (within 1°)

My progressed sun, MC, mercury are in her 4th, my progressed venus is in her 5th.


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hanakin
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posted March 24, 2009 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Everyone

I have just finished reading the book by paul westran and funnily enough i met someone just after getting that book


we have natally

a sun-venus trine (his sun in leo is trine my venus 1.4° orb)
a sun-venus square (my sun in taurus squares his venus a 0.7° orb)

and in the progressed datas
hanakin's natal Sun is Trine weeleo's progressed Venus — orb is 1.0 deg.
it is separating (his venus is leaving the trine to my sun)
weeleo's natal Sun is Square hanakin's progressed Venus — orb is 0.6 deg.
(my venus is on her way to meet his sun and be squared)

When we met through a friend on this 11th march (it was full moon) we got attracted very quickly.

But i tend to think that nothing can come out of it... he seems too immature to consider a real 'relationship' with me.

He's been cancelling our dates (though i asked my friend and he really had to work) which ****** me off.

another funny story is i have an astral twin a girl who shares her natal datas with me and in 2002 she dated a guy who seems to be that guy's astral twin.

I find it sooo creepy...

does anyone think anything of that synastry?


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Metatron
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posted March 24, 2009 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as i understood Westran's theory, explained here, i didn't read the book though, important Sun-Venus contacts in the natal to natal, progress to natal and progress to progress could indicate a beggining of a relationship. You seem to have some very close aspects with this guy so i guess you would fit that pattern.

How about other aspects in the natal to natal, are they favorable?

I would say that no matter how good and perfect or bad astrological aspects are, they mostly just show us a potential, which can be low or high. However it always depends on the people, if they are prepared to exploit this possibilities or disregard them. I guess this guy of your's doesn't see the potential this aspects between you hold . Well his loss anyway i hope he changes his mind.

As for the twin stuff, wow, indeed creepy, but kinda makes sence

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hanakin
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posted March 25, 2009 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Metatron,

Thanks for your input, yes so far i find this guy to be scared.

But still interested... he has that bad sun square saturn in natal and he is VERY immature.

When i met him i thought he was underaged....
My astral twin says that the guy (who was her first love) was also totally immature. So it's nothing new.

We have a good his mars opposite my sun in natal, then my moon is also trine to his sun.
Unfortunately his mercury squares my mercury
his mercury squares my moon.
what got me hooked was his uranus conjuncting (nearly perfect orb) my moon.

I have in natal my moon conjunct my uranus (i think i have a 8° orb) so he really electrifies me. That conjunction falls in my seventh house.

In natal he has mercury conjunct moon square uranus so we are a bit similar we face the same troubles of doing things on the spur of the moment without thinking. A friend of mine astrologer told me i was supposed to understand myself more through him...

oh yes another thing my ascendant his conjuncting his north node and his south node is conjuncting my moon...


I've decided to drop it a little and just get going i think he needs to make up his mind

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posted March 25, 2009 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Metatron

that stellium of the girl you fancy falling in your seventh house does create a will for the partnership in you.

Did you get back in touch with her immediately?

Also i think her vertex being conjunct to your mars creates a very strong sexual attraction (i had that with an ex, my venus was conjuncting his ascendant too which was also his point of non vertex).

So the attraction is there for you two.

Just make sure saturn isn't playing with you guys cos saturn is the guy who broke things apart with my ex and i never felt like going against the law and order of good old saturnus.

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posted March 26, 2009 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe, now that i read yor post hanakin, and took a look at the biwheel chart of this girl and me, i found out we have a pretty similar situation .

For starters she is Taurus as you, and i'm leo just as the guy you like. We also have moon con uranus in the natals, its 1° 10, and its her Uranus:P. I didn't realize this could be such a strong aspect, guess it works here as well hehe.

As for the Saturn thingy, yeah there's plenty of it i'm afraid. Again just as this guy you like i have sun square saturn in my natal. Since me and this girl have square suns as well, her saturn also squares my sun, and its within 1°:S. As if that is not enough, my saturn opposes her sun 4° 41', and her Saturn also conjunct my AC. Hmmm a lot of Saturn to go around.

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posted March 26, 2009 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for the vertex, yeah i think that a con with mars could make some attraction, but its only a progressed aspect. Her prog Vtx con my natal mars. There are quite a few aspects between her natal or progress. Vtx and my natal and progressed planets.

secondry progressions:
my progress moon con her natal Vtx
my natal mar con her progressed Vtx

solar arc:

Her directed Vtx con my SN.

In the natal to natal we have a DW ASC/Vtx conjunction, and our MC/IC axis are conjunct as well.

also:

my sun con her IC 3°
my moon con her DC 3°
her sun is in my 7th
her sun/venus midpoint con my DC (exact)

Yeah so there is some bond between us or perhaps a potential for a strong bond to develop, but than again it seems that things aren't moving. We liked each other 9 months ago it was a minor chrush, but then i fell for her, hard . She seems to hide any feelings she has for me if she has any that is. She's either afraid or doesn't feel the same, i really don't know. Maybe its the saturn thing that keeps us apart, as saturn can sometimes be very afraid of the sun.I just feel this pull like i belong with her or something, Its wierd i never felt like that before in my life. Its a really strong affection, also i'm incredibly attracted to her. Its obvious that i'm in love, though everything about her seems to give me this feeling that its meant to be. I know, sounds kinda stupid and naive but than again this is the first time i feel like this, and i just turned 24 All the relationships i had before and how i felt really can't compare with what i feel now.

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posted March 26, 2009 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that sounds like a very karmic encounter.

It can be very good it will help you both grow tremendously.

There was a synastry in the past where the guy I liked had his sun conjuncting his saturn (very tight orb) and it was totally square my sun.

He made me cry a lot. So beware of it it can be a very big slap in the face.
Looking at the synastry i take she is taurus and taurus/gemini rising?
and you're a leo with scorpio rising?

It sounds like a very good match to me.
Have you asked her out yet?
She's taurus, she won't show you her real feelings, but believe me chances are she's really hung onto you or she wouldn't even like you.

She's fixed sign so when she likes she probably likes fully and with your scorpio rising she knows you're around.
She electrifies you though you probably want her right here right now.

It's funny that synastry you have with her is mostly a lot like a mix of the one i have right now and the one i used to have with my ex (who was a leo too... cough cough).

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posted March 26, 2009 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just feel this pull like i belong with her or something, Its wierd i never felt like that before in my life. Its a really strong affection, also i'm intensly attracted to her.

I'd put that to the moon conjunct uranus

and the belonging the ic/mc axis plus ascendant descendant ones.
Since you have her personal planets in your 7th house it's only natural that you would feel that way.
Don't let the big bad law of order (saturn) come in between you guys if you don't feel like it.
Anything is possible if you really want it!
Tauruses are a little bit skeptical though and don't trust easily but i'm sure with those good aspects in synastry it can be overcome.
where is her moon and venus btw?
it says a lot about women and how you can make them feel comfortable :-D


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posted March 26, 2009 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep you're right about pretty much everything . She's gemini rising i'm scorpio rising. And yeah, she's really difficult to get to. I know that taurus really show their true feelings when they decide its safe. Thats exactly how she is. She got hurt in the past so she is even more closed now, she told me that. Ohh and yeah, whenever i'm around her i really feel crazy, its sparks going everywhere. She appears so unbelievebly calm and quiet, uniterested.

Yeah i'm definately trying to make her go out with me, all the time, but she always has something to do or whatever. She told me once, that in her case liking someone is a totally different story than actually being with someone. Its hard cuz i really can't hide what i feel, and i guess she can or perhaps its nothing there lol i dunno.

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posted March 26, 2009 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well her moon is in first house in cancer. Her venus lies in Taurus in her 12th house. Am i right or is a venus in that house a bit of a problem, refering to being afraid to express what you feel, to show your true emotions?

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posted March 26, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And yeah i really want her right her right now

Forgot to mention another crazy aspect. We have mars con mars in scorpio!! Mine is in 1st her's in 6th.

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posted March 26, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that girl understood something i haven't understood yet (and i'm like her gemini rising we're the best funny and everything).

She sounds like a very good taurus girl... she must have a very good sense of humour though with gemini rising.

You have sun square saturn so you're probably a bit of a 'crazy dog' it must be making her laugh.

Tauruses long for the physical too so don't hesitate to be sweet with her the more you'll make her understand that she needs your touch the most she will be drawn to you.

That's what would get a good taurus with gemini rising woman :-D
the intellect and the physical best of both worlds

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posted March 26, 2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
phwooarr metatron tell me what is your date of birth?
It's funny cos the guy i fancy atm also has a beautiful mars in scorpio...

Yes venus in house 12th is a bit problematic, though it's in a water house so it is shy, romantic finds it hard to assert itself.
And moon in cancer that is also very good she must be a very feminine woman.
Mars in scorpio makes her naturally passionate but you'll have to ignate the fire (shouldn't be a problem with a sun fire sign).

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