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Lioness
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posted June 10, 2014 11:54 PM
  
Hi ladies.. I know my story about this guy have become annoying, but you know a girls gotta vent!! LolI'm at the point that us hanging on to each other is pointless, yet it's hard for both of us to let go.. I have some how keep moving forward, and find a way to let go... Today I had that dreaded convo with him, I told him (bluntly) Leo style!!! Lol Look I know you care for me, I don't doubt that, never have, never will, but I also know you really don't want to admit that you care for me, so you spend more time pushing me away.. You can only push someone so much before they fall off the cliff and disappear forever. He stayed dead silent, not a peep.. I said hello, hello, he said I'm here, I'm just thinking about what you said..
I said just tell me what your thinking.
He did what he always does, he ran... He said can we continue this convo another day...
I said no, cuz I know what day will never happen, your just running... So go ahead and deal with it, by taking off, but think about this, are you REALLY going to be OK with loosing me forever??? I said not accept, or deal with it, or suck it up, but truly will you be OK with loosing me forever!!!!
That's what you need to think about..
I said, I don't even want an answer, that's what you should figure out on your own... Cuz I'm an inch from the cliff....
I left it at that!!!
Thoughts? Opinions?
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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 11, 2014 06:33 AM
Did it work?  IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted June 11, 2014 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Did it work?
Honestly it doesn't matter either way, my main goal is for him to know where I stand. To get him thinking. Is with that aspect, yes it worked If he's ok with loosing me, then he doesn't deserve me. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted June 11, 2014 02:40 PM
I'm not sure it is possible to determine someone who's not the committal type to commit, no matter the risk for him, but I may be wrong.I also believe men dislike this type of "confrontation" when they are asked or pressured to express their feelings/pressured to make a decision. But you have to forgive me, I have very fixed and simple opinions about women-men relationships. I believe that when a man is into a woman, the woman knows it/feels it, no ""heart-to-heart" conversations are necessary. For some reasons, because of our nature, we sometimes believe men hold their feelings, but I don't think this is true. If he's really into you, he'll show it, sooner or later. Some men/women are never "into" someone in a permanent, durable or committed way, it's their nature and it has nothing to do with us, with you. I was just rambling here, it is not necessarily your case. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 11, 2014 05:48 PM
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....You can only push someone so much before they fall off the cliff and disappear forever.
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Cuz I'm an inch from the cliff....
Probably not a Virgo-thing but really THIS is us Leos, OUR way to separate the wheat from the tares.. haha LOVE it!!
I would do & have done the exact same..
And the nice thing is .. this all becomes easier with aging & experience you know.. finally we won't let any (wrong) guy spoil one second of our precious life hihi. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted June 11, 2014 07:19 PM
Yeah, but...I have many girlfriends and I've done it myself: when you feel the need to open such a conversation (especially more than one time), it's not because you want "closure" or cleared feelings, let's not fool ourselves: what you mean is that you want him, you want him to want you, you want him to love you. You want more. And he knows it. It actually makes him feel safe, not threatened  Take it from my Virgo side, yes lol my Leo Moon probably fools herself many times because of her proverbial pride, but not on this one  IP: Logged |
amelia28
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From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus
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posted June 11, 2014 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Have I been gone this long???
Wow!! I'm now currently in my full blown Uranus opps Uranus transit, and everything has been, one change after another.. After this whole fishy ordeal, I just kinda gave up and pulled away.. After 3 months of kicking him out of my life, we started speaking again, but I told him. I had zero romantic interest,, and I can only offer a friendship.
He agreed..
That's been that...
My focus has been on well me... Lol
I started a home base business, selling clothes and designer handbags.. This keeps me pretty occupied ..
My main focus is to purchase a house..
I've never lived in a house... That's my only goal right now...
I paid off all my debit, and raised my credit score over 120 points...
I've been kicking AZZ!!!
I haven't given fishy much thought or time, even though we still chit chat as friends.. Which is cool.. So now here's my issue (and the reason why I posted here)
I've said it, 100x before, no matter what I do, how much work I do to get past this whole fishy ordeal, the more I pull away, the harder FATE seems to bring him even closer to me, so I can't escape it... I feel like the universe has pushed this 1 person on to me forever.. Saturn??? My dept got approval for another manger, he has applied, and he's coming Strongly recommended.
Which means if he does get the position, we will work side by side 40+ hours a week! I will be doing all the training! and he will have to be stuck to me! all day every day. Until one if us leaves...
I still feel he is some sort of soul mate, where the universe is forcing us to maintain contact with each other..
I have mixed feelings, I really like him, and we can really talk, and be honest with each other. We do have a special bond between us... That's awesome to have a special bond with a co worker, but I'm sooo worried, that if he comes to my area, I will get lost in obsession again.
I don't know if I can control the obsession when I would be around him, for so long every day..
I'm worried about this, I don't want to hold him back, but I don't want to go through this with him again. I'm finally at a place, where I can let this go, and move forward. This would set me back.... I wonder why/what it is that just won't let us pull apart.
Why does destiny insist that we remain close, and when we refuse, we are out in a situation where it's just down right unavoidable!!!
This is the one thing I can never understand... What do I look for? What is this? I
Do you have a Yod in composite? Juno conjunct chiron in synastry GT to GT or GT to Draco?? Do you have BML in synastry?? How does your Helio composite look like? IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted June 11, 2014 08:57 PM
@leoloo, well we all do and see things differently, I wasn't in anyway suggesting a commitment. I do know he cares, I have zero doubts, and he shows me he cares... In his own way.. This what ever it is isn't a superficial relationship regardless of the title... My intention, my goal, was to let him know, not to take me for granted, which includes our friendship.. We have and still share our deepest thoughts and confide in each other. We get really really close.. Through our conversation. We know each other better than any other person, in the world.. But the reason, why I told him this, is sometimes he gets into guy mode, and does a 360, says like hey baby yeah it's cool...
He goes from, this warm loving, I'll do anything for you, just tell me one day, to yeah we fool like that type of attitude.. Our relationship is what it is, I'm not trying to get him to commit, I'm not asking, nor even thinking about it at this point.... I've moved away from that, but he's still apart of my every day life, and I will continue to have deep feelings, and he will to, but the difference, is I have dealt with it, he hasn't..
He can't go 1 day with out speaking to me, I went camping for the weekend, told him I wouldn't be available to chat until Monday, my phone was ringing at 6am Monday morning, with him saying, I couldn't wait any longer to talk to you... If that's a guy that doesn't truly care, then Idk what is.. If I had any doubts he didn't care, all of this would be over and done with... At the same time, it makes me feel conflicted because I wonder if we are truly being fair to each other..
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Lioness
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posted June 11, 2014 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Do you have a Yod in composite? Juno conjunct chiron in synastry GT to GT or GT to Draco?? Do you have BML in synastry?? How does your Helio composite look like?
I'm going by memory.. Haven't looked up in a while, sorry I forgot what GT is...
No Juno/Chiron..
His Juno conjuncts my asc
His BML conjuncts my sun,moon,mercury
I know the helio has a both way Venus conjunct Juno. Sorry I don't remember off hand what is.. Yod, I don't think so, the composite is on the first page. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted June 11, 2014 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I'm going by memory.. Haven't looked up in a while, sorry I forgot what GT is...
No Juno/Chiron..
His Juno conjuncts my asc
His BML conjuncts my sun,moon,mercury I know the helio has a both way Venus conjunct Juno. Sorry I don't remember off hand what is.. Yod, I don't think so, the composite is on the first page.
By GT I mean geo tropic so what we normally use........ I have juno draco conjunct my ex geo tropic chiron exact......and I read juno/chiron conjuncts will bind two people together; makes the bond unbreakable in a way. You have a mystic rectangle it seems in your composite and I think those are really powerful...perhaps tension builds up but if the couple learns to channel it right it can be amazing... His BML conjuncts your sun/moon/mercury.....! Bingo! that is definitely an important component leading to obsession... Read this about lilith and obsession:http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!lilith-in-synastry-another-level-of-obsession/ceph I personally like lilith but yes it comes with a bit of obsessing LOL In addition the moon conjunct pluto and the venus opposite pluto and jupiter conjunct pluto...
So:
BML, Mystic Rectangle in the Comp, Pluto in the Comp, do check your draco to tropic synastry and check for juno conjunct chiron or other other aspects as it can be very informative draco to tropic; I highly recommend it . Share anything interesting you find ... I am still rooting for you guys.. Do check South node aspects too; it might explain why the relationship just doesn't fully take off...like saturn conjunct SN for example..
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amelia28
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posted June 11, 2014 09:24 PM
Lilith Rocks:In Hebrew tradition, Lilith was Adam’s first wife. Unlike Eve, Lilith was created from the ground, the same way Adam was created. She was highly sexual, but not out of desire for procreation. Indeed, she was not satisfied with traditional forms of love-making. Lilith refused to submit to patriarchal authority, and decided to leave the Garden of Eden. This angered Adam, and he threatened that if she didn’t return, 100 of the children she birthed ever day would die. Lilith, however, became angry and did not return to Adam. Instead, she continued to birth children (despite the fact that they were destined to die). She would seduce men when she was bored, then murder them or drive them to insanity. Adam eventually had God create Eve from his rib, as he found Lilith too difficult to handle. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted June 11, 2014 09:32 PM
When your Lilith aspects someone’s planet (especially the Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, or the Ascendant), you are magnetically attracted to this person, and can’t get them out of your mind. This aspect shows an amazing amount of sexual chemistry and an obsessive attraction. So is he the more obsessed?? or you feel the obsession is mutual? I am not sure I buy that lilith synastry aspect is felt by the person whose lilith conjuncts the planets.. I think both parties can feel it. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted June 11, 2014 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
When your Lilith aspects someone’s planet (especially the Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, or the Ascendant), you are magnetically attracted to this person, and can’t get them out of your mind. This aspect shows an amazing amount of sexual chemistry and an obsessive attraction. So is he the more obsessed?? or you feel the obsession is mutual? I am not sure I buy that lilith synastry aspect is felt by the person whose lilith conjuncts the planets.. I think both parties can feel it.
Well hon, I can't really say if it's Lilith, Pluto, or both.. But we both have an obsession with each other.. But not in a stalker type obsession.. As long as we speak to each other the obsession builds, but it gets satisfied at the same time...
When we didn't talk for 3 months, that was real pain, all the way deep down in my gut... It was horrific... Which is probably why we started talking again, it took away that pain...
He has expressed to me, that during that time, he was soo hurt, that he cant even want to talk about it...
During that time, we both left each other alone, we kept complete distance..
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Lioness
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posted June 11, 2014 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
By GT I mean geo tropic so what we normally use........I have juno draco conjunct my ex geo tropic chiron exact......and I read juno/chiron conjuncts will bind two people together; makes the bond unbreakable in a way. You have a mystic rectangle it seems in your composite and I think those are really powerful...perhaps tension builds up but if the couple learns to channel it right it can be amazing... His BML conjuncts your sun/moon/mercury.....! Bingo! that is definitely an important component leading to obsession... Read this about lilith and obsession:http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!lilith-in-synastry-another-level-of-obsession/ceph I personally like lilith but yes it comes with a bit of obsessing LOL In addition the moon conjunct pluto and the venus opposite pluto and jupiter conjunct pluto...
So:
BML, Mystic Rectangle in the Comp, Pluto in the Comp, do check your draco to tropic synastry and check for juno conjunct chiron or other other aspects as it can be very informative draco to tropic; I highly recommend it . Share anything interesting you find ... I am still rooting for you guys.. Do check South node aspects too; it might explain why the relationship just doesn't fully take off...like saturn conjunct SN for example..
I just did a quick glance, no major looking...
No Chiron/Juno dr to natal.
His DR Venus is on my natal SN
The dt composite SN is conjunct sun, mercury in h12 though... Can you say karma, up the yahoo!!! Reg synastry we have a lot of parallel/ contra parallels.. I don't remember which ones though...
His SN is conjunct my ASC
His NN conjunct my vertex There's more, but you get the pic. IP: Logged | |
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