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Topic: Mars square Saturn synastry = red alert?
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LeoCat
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posted February 26, 2008 12:41 AM
 
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Silvereyes3000
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posted January 15, 2014 11:01 PM
I am the saturn, he is the mars person. He is attractive and handsome, all together, has a good job and a nice place, is intelligent. But he is so freaking annoying and in my face. He doesn't leave me space to miss him and he wants to have sex all the time, like seriously. He ****** me off.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 19, 2014 01:15 PM
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Emily033
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posted April 10, 2014 02:57 PM
Saturn quincunx mars exact 0a. I was Saturn, he was mars. IME it was intimate problems and a lot of coldness between us IP: Logged |
manderin
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posted April 11, 2014 09:35 AM
It's a serious red flag and the relationship should be avoided.This is one of those few aspects where it almost doesn't matter how great the rest of the chart is. The relationship will not be healthy. But because Saturn is involved you're likely to stick it out and therefore prolong the unhealthiness. Not good. BTW- I was the saturn person and after three years of being involved with him I did end up being diagnosed with Cancer even though I was only in my mid 20's. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade
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posted April 11, 2014 12:37 PM
I have this with a friend and he is extremely critical of me which annoys me no end and I know I annoy him on some level. My other friend has this with the guy she is dating and he's hyper critical of her and that annoys her. She on the other hand is super blunt and sort of mean to him but he keeps coming back. I've not seen any violence or illness. But it's certainly a challenging aspect. ETA: Sorry! We have Mars opp Saturn, not the square. Lots of criticism with the opposition. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 12, 2014 01:14 PM
Challenging, indeed, but not impossible.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 13, 2014 03:33 PM
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Ellynlvx
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posted April 13, 2014 05:40 PM
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Case in point. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 02, 2014 10:10 AM
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meissieri
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posted July 02, 2014 11:40 AM
I've had this twice in a romantic way and possibly in a casual friendship as well. The one that affected me the most was recent. Someone I was smitten about and I really wanted a relationship with - taking it slow from friends to more. I was Mars, squaring his Saturn by only 1 degree. On top of that, Mars fell in between his Venus-Saturn opposition, becoming the apex planet of a T-square. My Saturn also made a very loose conjunction to his own Mars in the 7th house. I felt so blocked. My insecurity resurfaced like crazy. I asked a lot of people for advice on how to handle the situation, especially in being assertive but still leaving the door open for him. Man, I really wanted to make things work and if we'd spent more time together, I would've confessed to him. The other one was with an ex - I was Saturn here - who moved soooo fast for me. (Mars in Aries square Saturn in Capricorn - both energies at their fullest!) It was overwhelming! But it was just so... flattering. And sexy. Fell for him hard and opened up to him during that time. I had inhibitions, but I got past them, thankfully. It didn't help that he loved bragging about how popular he was with other ladies, made jokes about them coming onto him (and even male friends), which just hurt. So yeah, I definitely needed time before I was ready to let down the guard completely. Then suddenly he broke up with me, refused to talk to me for a while... then I found out he'd been using my friends to keep the tabs on me - especially my dating life. He eventually stalked me and I had to get my dad involved to get him to back off. So, I think I felt it pretty badly. The sudden anger with the first guy, then the other one. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 02, 2014 01:47 PM
Mars square Saturn is a common aspect (statistically) in marriages and long-term partnerships, in the framework of a good synastry. It most likely shows sexual fidelity and working together to build a life, a home, a family, a sign the relationship is to take a concrete form, a sign of long-term sexual activity and those two people generally being active together in real life. IMO, it's one of the best squares to have in a good synastry and involving two people with balanced Saturn and Mars in their natals.Since the square is the active, eventful, "doing things" part of a chart, including a synastry, it makes sense for a square between Mars and Saturn to be a good aspect. In a weak/challenged synastry or in the case Mars or Saturn are challenged in the natals, it's an aspect potentially leading to frustration, harshness and ultimately to violence. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade
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posted July 04, 2014 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Mars square Saturn is a common aspect (statistically) in marriages and long-term partnerships, in the framework of a good synastry. It most likely shows sexual fidelity and working together to build a life, a home, a family, a sign the relationship is to take a concrete form, a sign of long-term sexual activity and those two people generally being active together in real life. IMO, it's one of the best squares to have in a good synastry and involving two people with balanced Saturn and Mars in their natals.Since the square is the active, eventful, "doing things" part of a chart, including a synastry, it makes sense for a square between Mars and Saturn to be a good aspect. In a weak/challenged synastry or in the case Mars or Saturn are challenged in the natals, it's an aspect potentially leading to frustration, harshness and ultimately to violence.
I love your posts! I know I said this on another thread, but I get so tired of all the negative interpretations. It's not possible that only negative things manifest. So it's refreshing to hear the good things.   IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted July 04, 2014 02:44 PM
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starrynight
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posted July 04, 2014 05:35 PM
I know a couple who have a lot of positive aspects and also great chemistry in their synastry--but they also have a double whammy of that Mars-Saturn square. They fight. A lot. And it's almost always a power play. Who's the boss of you? No one freaking tells me what to do! They both have prominent Fire placements, so it's... volatile. But I kind of think it's lucky in their case, because they are well matched, you know what I mean? They seem to almost enjoy fighting sometimes. They have Mars conjunct Mars in Scorpio--fighting often ends in sex. Other positive things, like their highly compatible Moons, also smooth it out. IP: Logged |
cultstatus
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posted October 14, 2018 10:41 PM
I am kind of experiencing this at the moment with someone I'm getting to know and would potentially consider as a partner. I'm the saturn and its a 1 degree orb. He's said things like 'why do I always feel like you're angry at me' and I AM critical, and now that I think about it I do try to control his Aries dominant energy subconciously. IP: Logged |
manderin
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posted October 17, 2018 01:50 PM
"It ended very badly when it didn't have to"This was exactly how it was with me. I've had 2 relationships with this aspects and in both cases I was mars. Every time I tried to do something for my own success in life or career the saturn person would feel threatened and stop me from doing it. Even when I would try to compromise or talk about the issue the saturn person would refuse to do either. It was like given the choice between a)allowing me to live my life without their control b)talking it over and coming up with a solution that can make us both happy or c) making sure the relationship EXPLODES and shatters everyone including destroying their own lives in the process- they were going to make damned sure the only option available would be C, C and C and it didn't matter that they were going to lose everything because of it.... Until they eventually actually did lose everything. Then they cared... but by then it's too late so there was no point to it. IP: Logged |
Jupitarian
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posted October 21, 2018 01:22 PM
I have had this apect twice. The first time with a man I had a romantic relatonship with and the second time with a co-worker. In both cases both people had a Mars/Pluto/Uranus conjunction in opposition to their Saturn. My Mars was sqaring both the conjunction and their Saturn, creating a T-Square formation in our synastry. Both relationships were filled with feelings of unwothiness, anger and contempt. I as the Mars person, felt twarted, bullied and abused. I can honestly say that I have never felt so angry with anyone in my life as with these people, at least with the man. It was tru rage! I´m not a violent person normally, hate conlicts (Libra Rising, Moon in Libra)and will avoid it if possible! I actually think that saved me from doing something really bad! There was a lot of stuff going on in our synastry chart, not only the Mars/Saturn Square. However,if I see it in a chart I would be concerned.... IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted October 21, 2018 01:43 PM
I have this with my dad and it's horrible. He's the Saturn person he tries to control me. And my actions (Mars) is either too fast or too slow for him. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted October 21, 2018 06:10 PM
I've had this with 3 men.
It's one aspect I would run away after I realised that the same thing happens because of this aspect.
In my case since our relationships were platonic ones, I was blocking them sexually and I was blocked myself with them which was actually very weird since they turned me on and I had feelings for 2 of them. They weren't agressive or anything like that, I don't understand myself why I was unable to even talk about smth even slightly sexual.
I have a feeling that sex with them would be bad too.
I was Saturn in all 3 cases.
I would also run away from Saturn Moon too. All Saturn aspects need some time to "reveal" their energy, both because Saturn is a slow planet and also other quicker planets like Uranus/Neptune cover Saturn's energy initially. So it gets worse with time.
It depends on each ones natal chart too.
If your chart is Saturn friendly then it might be easier for you to work with it if you are willing to. IP: Logged |
sassaqua
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posted October 21, 2018 06:26 PM
Yes, I agree:"All Saturn aspects need some time to "reveal" their energy, both because Saturn is a slow planet and also other quicker planets like Uranus/Neptune cover Saturn's energy initially." Saturn does it in a particularly sneaky way, because that planet is so frightened itself, and then controlling. There are so many aspects that I'd run away from these days! But agree, it does depend on the whole chart. Saturn square Venus is awful also, just a slow erosion of the self esteem. And because it takes time it like the old frog being boiled in the pot.
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ChildofVenus
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posted October 21, 2018 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I've had this with 3 men.
It's one aspect I would run away after I realised that the same thing happens because of this aspect.
In my case since our relationships were platonic ones, I was blocking them sexually and I was blocked myself with them which was actually very weird since they turned me on and I had feelings for 2 of them. They weren't agressive or anything like that, I don't understand myself why I was unable to even talk about smth even slightly sexual.
I have a feeling that sex with them would be bad too.
I was Saturn in all 3 cases.
I would also run away from Saturn Moon too. All Saturn aspects need some time to "reveal" their energy, both because Saturn is a slow planet and also other quicker planets like Uranus/Neptune cover Saturn's energy initially. So it gets worse with time.
It depends on each ones natal chart too.
If your chart is Saturn friendly then it might be easier for you to work with it if you are willing to.
I have Mars opposition Saturn with someone the orb is 6 degrees. He's the Saturn person he says he's interested in me sexually. But he's been saying this for awhile yet we haven't been involved sexually. He says he's busy with work but I wonder if this aspect has something to do with it. But you mentioned that Saturn takes time to show up. We aren't in a relationship so I guess it wouldn't be that at least not yet anyway. I'm thinking about just calling it quits and moving on. I don't know if the oppostion is similar to the square. But with my dad I have the square and he likes to control what I do, when I do it and how I do it. Anything that involves any kind of action on my part he tries to control me. Even in regards to driving he tells me that I move too slow. Or he gets upset if I don't do something a certain way. IP: Logged |
rzgemini
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posted October 21, 2018 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Mars square Saturn is a common aspect (statistically) in marriages and long-term partnerships, in the framework of a good synastry. It most likely shows sexual fidelity and working together to build a life, a home, a family, a sign the relationship is to take a concrete form, a sign of long-term sexual activity and those two people generally being active together in real life. IMO, it's one of the best squares to have in a good synastry and involving two people with balanced Saturn and Mars in their natals.Since the square is the active, eventful, "doing things" part of a chart, including a synastry, it makes sense for a square between Mars and Saturn to be a good aspect. In a weak/challenged synastry or in the case Mars or Saturn are challenged in the natals, it's an aspect potentially leading to frustration, harshness and ultimately to violence.
Nice to hear that leeloo, I have this aspect twice, one when I was the mars, and another one when I was the saturn...when I was the mars, I feel blocked (by circumstances) to be with him. When I was the saturn, maybe I was/am blocking him. In my case as saturn person, the posibility I can think of is my life choice for practicing chastity. So maybe he feel blocked by that. As saturn I don't hate or have ill feeling toward him, I am attracted to him And I hope it will countinue like that. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted October 21, 2018 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by rzgemini:
Nice to hear that leeloo, I have this aspect twice, one when I was the mars, and another one when I was the saturn...when I was the mars, I feel blocked (by circumstances) to be with him. When I was the saturn, maybe I was/am blocking him. In my case as saturn person, the posibility I can think of is my life choice for practicing chastity. So maybe he feel blocked by that. As saturn I don't hate or have ill feeling toward him, I am attracted to him And I hope it will countinue like that.
So you admit to blocking him? This really is a terrible aspect. I bet this is probably the same thing that's going on in my case. Though I'm Mars makes me want to avoid the Saturn person altogether.
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rzgemini
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posted October 21, 2018 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So you admit to blocking him? This really is a terrible aspect. I bet this is probably the same thing that's going on in my case. Though I'm Mars makes me want to avoid the Saturn person altogether.
I have boundaries, no premarital sex for me. Don't let the interpretation of one aspect gets you down. It will make you paranoid, I still am actually,but I try to see the bigger picture. I am no expert, but in one point in my life I let those bad interpretations destroyed my relationship when in fact the aspects were not that bad, but I made it that way. The interpretations online sometimes can be quite black and white...though it will depend on each individuals again,and also other aspects, but like what leeloo said,it can be a sign of fidelity and committed relationship. The saturn person trying to block the mars person sexuallity with other persons. Maybe
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