posted October 22, 2018 06:41 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Yes, I agree:

"All Saturn aspects need some time to "reveal" their energy, both because Saturn is a slow planet and also other quicker planets like Uranus/Neptune cover Saturn's energy initially."

Saturn does it in a particularly sneaky way, because that planet is so frightened itself, and then controlling.

There are so many aspects that I'd run away from these days! But agree, it does depend on the whole chart.

Saturn square Venus is awful also, just a slow erosion of the self esteem. And because it takes time it like the old frog being boiled in the pot.

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Sassaqua it seems we agree on a few things generally.

posted October 22, 2018 07:02 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I have Mars opposition Saturn with someone the orb is 6 degrees. He's the Saturn person he says he's interested in me sexually. But he's been saying this for awhile yet we haven't been involved sexually. He says he's busy with work but I wonder if this aspect has something to do with it. But you mentioned that Saturn takes time to show up. We aren't in a relationship so I guess it wouldn't be that at least not yet anyway. I'm thinking about just calling it quits and moving on. I don't know if the oppostion is similar to the square. But with my dad I have the square and he likes to control what I do, when I do it and how I do it. Anything that involves any kind of action on my part he tries to control me. Even in regards to driving he tells me that I move too slow. Or he gets upset if I don't do something a certain way.

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I see. I had the square (4-5 orbs)
The opposition might be a little better.
As the Saturn person I can understand.
I was myself in love but there was such a huge sexual block (I am sure that this aspect is to blame it is the only one that could cause this). I didn't feel that they approach was wrong or turned me off in some way it just wasn't working for both of us. It was driving me crazy hiw I wanted them but never felt ready to even talk kind of sexually with them.
They waited for me 1 year and a half and 2 years but it didn't hapoen we just had a platonic relationship.
I can't say much about their actions because in all case there was distance between us except of one.
The one that we were kind of dating we were physically close but I was again the one blocking him all the time even though he turned me on SOOOO MUCH. (I forgot about him).
However I have Pluto in 5th H and Saturnnin 8th H so it is generally a problem of mine.
But.. In 2 other mostly internet relationships I had that we didn't have any Saturn-Mars aspect even though we didn't have a sex it wasn't a problem and I could talk freely about it and I wasn't feeling super serious or shy with them. There wasn't anything blocking me like it was with the others.

So even in my case that I have no sexual contacts and I have difficulty in this field Saturn-Mars aspects were problematic.

I didn't feel the need to control them though. Plus I didn't feel their actions were bothering me (maybe distance plays its part in this, I don't know).

posted October 22, 2018 07:11 AM            

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Originally posted by rzgemini:
I have boundaries, no premarital sex for me. Don't let the interpretation of one aspect gets you down. It will make you paranoid, I still am actually,but I try to see the bigger picture. I am no expert, but in one point in my life I let those bad interpretations destroyed my relationship when in fact the aspects were not that bad, but I made it that way. The interpretations online sometimes can be quite black and white...though it will depend on each individuals again,and also other aspects, but like what leeloo said,it can be a sign of fidelity and committed relationship. The saturn person trying to block the mars person sexuallity with other persons. Maybe

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I don't understand how you could do that. I would never run away based on others' experiences no matter how many of them there are.
The last time I had this square I still gave it a try even though I was aware of it. Just let the aspects reveal themselves. It might be different. Even if it's not it might not be that bad for you in the end.

Don't do that please. If astrology affects you in that way it's better to not read about it.

posted October 22, 2018 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I see. I had the square (4-5 orbs)
The opposition might be a little better.
As the Saturn person I can understand.
I was myself in love but there was such a huge sexual block (I am sure that this aspect is to blame it is the only one that could cause this). I didn't feel that they approach was wrong or turned me off in some way it just wasn't working for both of us. It was driving me crazy hiw I wanted them but never felt ready to even talk kind of sexually with them.
They waited for me 1 year and a half and 2 years but it didn't hapoen we just had a platonic relationship.
I can't say much about their actions because in all case there was distance between us except of one.
The one that we were kind of dating we were physically close but I was again the one blocking him all the time even though he turned me on SOOOO MUCH. (I forgot about him).
However I have Pluto in 5th H and Saturnnin 8th H so it is generally a problem of mine.
But.. In 2 other mostly internet relationships I had that we didn't have any Saturn-Mars aspect even though we didn't have a sex it wasn't a problem and I could talk freely about it and I wasn't feeling super serious or shy with them. There wasn't anything blocking me like it was with the others.

So even in my case that I have no sexual contacts and I have difficulty in this field Saturn-Mars aspects were problematic.

I didn't feel the need to control them though. Plus I didn't feel their actions were bothering me (maybe distance plays its part in this, I don't know).

Saturn acts like a block or bringa obstacles however with Saturn opposite Moon I couldn't take him seriously, there was something so immature to him emotionally. He really bothered me and I don't want to even talk with him even though we didn't fight or anything like that. I don't have that problem with the other ones that we have Saturn square Mars)

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posted October 22, 2018 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by rzgemini:
@plut0nian2 maybe the problem is myself, my chart is quite troublesome. With the mars person now, we have hard saturn aspects, so when I ask online I mostly only ask the good aspect ones. We are not in relationship,so I don't let myself emotionally attached to him.

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posted October 22, 2018 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Well I told the person I wouldn't bother them anymore. So I've decided to end contact with them. I'm guessing it's probably the Mars/Saturn aspect I hate it. But I guess it's better to just leave it instead of getting involved. I think it's odd that the Saturn person insists that they are interested in me sexually when they really aren't.

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So clearly if two people have this aspect in synastry they won't have a sex life since the Saturn person will restrict the Mars person. I think it's best to just avoid people who you share this aspect with.

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Please don't do that to yourself. Yoi are using astrology in a wrong way.
Have you experienced in the past this aspect?
I have experienced it 4 times (I forgot ine of them) and it's been always the same for me that is why I'm running away from the quare at least.

Don't forget that if let's say the universe wants you to experience the Saturn-Mars energy and you run away instead of experiencing it, it will keep throwing you people with whom you have Saturn-Mars hard aspects.

Do you have natally this aspect? What aspects does your mars make? and what is in your 5th and 8th H?

He may be interested in you especially if he's saying so but he is probably shy or slow or there are obstacles preventing him.

I think that with this aspect even if there is sex it will eventually end up being really bad but that is smth I'm not able to know for sure.

It is indeed listed as one of the worst aspects, someone said it is common in marriages but actually I had seen just one person mentioning their grandparents had this. I don't know about you but I would be interested in knowing if any young couple has been in a longterm relatinship/marriage with this aspect. I am saying this because people of previous generations used to stay together because divorce wasn't an option at least not an easy one as is today. Also people were trying harder because they couldn't have sex so easily and there weren't as many choices. There are a few more reasons but anyway that is not the point.

I just don't think that we should compare synastries of older couples to decide if it will be lasting or not.
That's why I am interested in younger couples.

posted October 22, 2018 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Please don't do that to yourself. Yoi are using astrology in a wrong way.
Have you experienced in the past this aspect?
I have experienced it 4 times (I forgot ine of them) and it's been always the same for me that is why I'm running away from the quare at least.

Don't forget that if let's say the universe wants you to experience the Saturn-Mars energy and you run away instead of experiencing it, it will keep throwing you people with whom you have Saturn-Mars hard aspects.

Do you have natally this aspect? What aspects does your mars make? and what is in your 5th and 8th H?

He may be interested in you especially if he's saying so but he is probably shy or slow or there are obstacles preventing him.

I think that with this aspect even if there is sex it will eventually end up being really bad but that is smth I'm not able to know for sure.

It is indeed listed as one of the worst aspects, someone said it is common in marriages but actually I had seen just one person mentioning their grandparents had this. I don't know about you but I would be interested in knowing if any young couple has been in a longterm relatinship/marriage with this aspect. I am saying this because people of previous generations used to stay together because divorce wasn't an option at least not an easy one as is today. Also people were trying harder because they couldn't have sex so easily and there weren't as many choices. There are a few more reasons but anyway that is not the point.

I just don't think that we should compare synastries of older couples to decide if it will be lasting or not.
That's why I am interested in younger couples.

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posted October 22, 2018 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
How is it going with that person? How is Saturn-Mars playing for you?

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posted October 23, 2018 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by MyRealName:
This is interesting that this discussion turned to sex quality, I never associated the sex life with Saturn's influence. In my longest relationship there was a Saturn
/Mars square at 1 degree orb. It was a layer to our relationship that developed slowly and at first the sex was good too. However, with time I felt like he was not hearing me in bed and also in my professional interests. Any initiative or project was criticized and shut down and he would be happy with a trophy wife staying at home. I left at the end, but not due to the issues outlined here. Also back to the sex theme, our Mars were in tight trine and that did not help our sex life.

So if someone asks me if Saturn/Mars square is a red flag, I would say for me personally it is and I would not want this in any relationship, sexual or not. It could also be because the Saturn person was very insecure and immature in this expression. It makes me wonder whether we really learn to accept our fears and insecurities over life and it appears that Saturn really points to these in one's chart.

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posted October 24, 2018 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I wonder if it's the same with the oppostion and if the orb is somewhat wide would it still be as bad.

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It might be better.
The opposition is 6 orbs my square was 5 orbs but I always count the opposition as less negative compared to the square.

You should really try it. You never know how it will work for you.
I said that I feel like sex would be or at least get bad. it doesn't mean that it will be necessarily..
Give it a try if you like him.

posted June 06, 2020 11:51 AM            

His Saturn (Leo) squared my Mars (Tau) and we both work in the arts. Every time I had any grain of success, I felt massive jealousy and resentment from him and it become suffocating. B/c he has lots of Libra, the jealousy and criticism was initially well-disguised but eventually, it became very clear that any gains I made equated to losses for him.

Ego ego ego!!