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starrynight
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posted July 10, 2014 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
George Clooney and Amal Alamuddin

Interesting synastry, though a little too heavy on oppositions for my liking.
I also think that Saturn opp Mars is more difficult than square. Just MHO though. There is also Mars opp Moon. Hmm. And his Uranus is opp both her Sun and her Venus. Lots of attraction at first, but I wonder if it's going to be a lasting one. His Lilith is connected, hers almost isn't.

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posted July 10, 2014 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starrynight:
George Clooney and Amal Alamuddin

Interesting synastry, though a little too heavy on oppositions for my liking.
I also think that Saturn opp Mars is more difficult than square. Just MHO though. There is also Mars opp Moon. Hmm. And his Uranus is opp both her Sun and her Venus. Lots of attraction at first, but I wonder if it's going to be a lasting one. His Lilith is connected, hers almost isn't.


Their Saturns, both of them, are almost unaspected by the other's chart. Maybe it won't last

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posted July 10, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Can we please check Leonardo Dicapricorn, I'm curious about that one

I hope I finally learned to insert charts.

Let's see.

empty 5th house in Aquarius, Uranus in 29th degree of Libra on the border between 1st and 2nd houses
7th house in Aries, Mars in Scorpio in 2nd house.
empty 8th house in Taurus, Venus in Scorpio in 2nd house

Everything points at Scorpio and 2nd house.
Mars is super active and widely conj Venus.
Uranus conj Mars widely across the sign border and the house border. It's almost like his Mars and his heavy second house are pulling his Uranus towards them.

His Mars also trines Jupiter in Pisces, and he has Jupiter-Lilith conjunction, which I was told can demonstrate itself as having a lot of lovers.

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posted July 10, 2014 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrynight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Their Saturns, both of them, are almost unaspected by the other's chart. Maybe it won't last

Same for the Nodes. Her North Node has a wide opp to his Venus and tightly trines his Jupiter, but that's all.
Though wait, his NN conj her Saturn. 5 or 6 degrees. Seems a bit wide, but yet. Also it sextiles her Jupiter and her Cupid. If nothing else, their union must be lucky for both.
And with DW Uranus-Sun opp, no wonder they surprised everyone.

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posted July 10, 2014 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Here is the chart of a male I know. Very handsome, 45 yo, never married, no kids. He wants to get married, and he says he wants to be married just once, but he always says he hasnt found the right one yet.
Girls are frolicking to him like humming birds, they fall for him easily, yet - he hasn't found the right one yet. He'd date someone for a few months and then drop them.
He doesn't lie to them, promise anything or cheat. He is a very nice, handsome dude.
Clearly a commitment phobe.

His Moon is in a bad place, so he might be doubtfull of women and their intentions.
His 7th house ruler is Jupiter, and - it conjuncts Uranus, in the 5th!



Here's my chart:

There are a lot of tight aspects between our charts.

Would you care to post his birth data?

I'm really curious to see what our composite looks like. I always have interesting composites with people when our plants aspect so tightly.

I also have Saturn in 11th, and mine, too, is barely aspected in my chart. I haven't experienced it the way LeeLoo described, but I know some do. Mine's in Gemini, though, so it just makes me more reticent. I'm not quick to share my deepest thoughts and feelings. Someone really has to earn my trust for me to open up on a deep level. I keep my own counsel, as they say.

Saturn in 11th is more of a "choose your friends, don't let them choose you" aspect. Plus, since the 11th is the house of our hopes, dreams, and ideals, we tend to idealize friendship and friends. Loyalty to friends is paramount. If you have a friend in me you, you have a friend for life. We have loyalty to friends or those we admire to a fault. It is very much a "Will Lay Down My Life for a Friend" aspect.

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posted July 10, 2014 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think one of your friend's problems may be that his 5th and 11th houses are intercepted.

So, he's initially drawn to Virgo energy romantically, but craves Libra. His 11th house cusp in Pisces makes him initially feel loved by the dreamy romantic energy, but deep down he needs that Aries fight and fire to feel loved. Thus, him saying he wants a "you and me against the world" love. That's his 11th house craving Aries energy.

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posted July 10, 2014 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wild Horses     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I forgot to add...

We should check Warren Beatty's chart.

He was a notorious bachelor for decades, but something in Annette Bening's chart got him to stick.

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posted July 10, 2014 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Cappy

The thing is, he does want to get married. He says, however , he cant find the right one. Poor thing. He is so beautiful to look at, very nice temperament, such a gentleman, women go berserk on him, mothers try to marry him off to their daughters, yet there he goes - each one disappoints him( he claims). He blames them all- she is indecisive, that one chose her friends over me, the other one cheated on me, that one is too flirty with men , this one is too controlling, etc.. Eternal bachelor


Sounds quite a bit like someone with whom I'm involved. He just avoided all of the 'not this one, not that one' business by not dating at all. Two years the senior of his gent. Used to say the same thing, too -- he was just looking for the one, so on and so forth. Late last year, it seems he came to an understanding that ours is the relationship he was meant to / looking for / needing to have. I believe that, actually.

Honestly, he couldn't hack a standard, traditional relationship. For all his loyalty, he's fiercely independent, needs intense and long periods of solitude, and would certainly make a more sensitive / approval-seeking woman feel unappreciated or undesirable.

Fortunately, we've found just the right complex balancing act that works for us both.

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posted July 10, 2014 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I think one of your friend's problems may be that his 5th and 11th houses are intercepted.

So, he's initially drawn to Virgo energy romantically, but craves Libra. His 11th house cusp in Pisces makes him initially feel loved by the dreamy romantic energy, but deep down he needs that Aries fight and fire to feel loved. Thus, him saying he wants a "you and me against the world" love. That's his 11th house craving Aries energy.


You are onto something with that assessment.

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posted July 10, 2014 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Sounds quite a bit like someone with whom I'm involved.

and would certainly make a more sensitive / approval-seeking woman feel unappreciated or undesirable.

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posted July 10, 2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WildHorses,

I guess they like the Scorpio energy, thou, because of the Pluto T-square

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posted July 10, 2014 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's his chart, for the curious.

It seems almost obvious, with the MOON opposite MARS across 5H/11H, in Aries and Libra. But the CAN SUN does throw me a bit, and the 8H stellium.

Very curious fellow, that's for sure.

I think the fact he ALMOST has interceptions, including along the 5/11 axis is indicative. You guys ARE onto something there.

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posted July 10, 2014 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^
I don't really like the man, he seems abrasive, acid tongue, women hater. His chart ruler is unaspected, well - a trine to Saturn only, so he may be full of himself. The sun is hardly touched either, except the harsh Saturn square, so he craves to be noticed and may say things just to be noticed. Or use his acid mercurian energy to shine...
His Cancer placements in the 8th and the Saturn squares may make him bipolar - one day he is good, the next - antisocial

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posted July 10, 2014 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, Orange's subject has Dsc Sagittarius with its ruler conj Uranus in the 5th
Btw....the faults always with the woman(?) nothing about him ever plays into it.. Can some adventurous Sagittarius woman jump into the ring and tell him how it is ?!lmao! He needs some Scorp/pluto/Sadge truth serum. I say we chip in for the services of Roseanne Barr ^_^

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posted July 10, 2014 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Cappy

The thing is, he does want to get married. He says, however , he cant find the right one. Poor thing. He is so beautiful to look at, very nice temperament, such a gentleman, women go berserk on him, mothers try to marry him off to their daughters, yet there he goes - each one disappoints him( he claims). He blames them all- she is indecisive, that one chose her friends over me, the other one cheated on me, that one is too flirty with men , this one is too controlling, etc.. Eternal bachelor


I think he is terrified of getting hurt and deep down he loves his freedom and enjoys the courting stage the most so for him to give up his freedom and risk getting hurt she better be worth it 100% guarantee.....

NN in aries
chiron at 29 degrees in Pisces catches my attention


But most importantly he has tsquares involving ruler of his DC which is jupiter conjuncting uranus in the 5th and this opposes venus conjunct chiron and both conjunctions square moon conjunct lilith.


Sometimes you think you want to get married but your subconscious knows other wise and his venus rules his 12th house which conjuncts chiron and squares moon conjunct lilith and this squares jupiter/uranus in the 5th...

He is build for romances and flings if you ask me even if the THINKS he wants marriage he wouldn't be happy if he actually gets married and in some level he must know that so he avoids it.

Wonderful example, thanks for sharing!

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posted July 10, 2014 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm talking about a real bachelor at heart here - I don't think a real bachelor at heart is the "falling in love" type, so I kind of reject this idea of such a person changing their ways because they fall madly in love with someone.

Hmm good points. That's true some people don't fall in love, or love another much in that way.

Thanks for the list Gabby

And George Clooney and his new lady!! How could I have forgot lol. I'm tempted to look at his progressions since the astro gods have bequeathed upon us a birth time but synastry should be interesting too.
And someone mentioned they have Saturn/NN..holy heck why on earth?! Who's wearing the pants, ie who's saturn? Ill have to go back and look..ok it's Her x_x

George has Mercury ruling Dsc and its conj Sun and squares Uranus, and transiting *Saturn* is hitting all of it by hard aspect.

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posted July 10, 2014 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Hmm, Orange's subject has Dsc Sagittarius with its ruler conj Uranus in the 5th
Btw....the faults always with the woman(?) nothing about him ever plays into it.. Can some adventurous Sagittarius woman jump into the ring and tell him how it is ?!lmao! He needs some Scorp/pluto/Sadge truth serum. I say we chip in for the services of Roseanne Barr ^_^

Lonake, hi


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posted July 10, 2014 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nuh-uh sorry if I wasn't clear I mean someone to read him like a book and tell him who he is to his face cos I think he's been lying to himself if "something's wrong with everyone but apparently not with him." Not saying he'd be attracted to her, saying it'd do him good cos at this point it looks like he can have the pick of the litter.

As for attraction maybe someone level headed his own age who plays hard to get, maybe he likes a challenge cos he's not impressed with the ladies at the office?

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posted July 10, 2014 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One last observation jupiter and juno which both have to do with marriage form hard aspects to both his moon and venus.

Walla!

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posted July 10, 2014 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Nuh-uh sorry if I wasn't clear I mean someone to read him like a book and tell him who he is to his face cos I think he's been lying to himself if "something's wrong with everyone but apparently not with him." Not saying he'd be attracted to her, saying it'd do him good cos at this point it looks like he can have the pick of the litter.


ah :-D
I like your energy

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posted July 10, 2014 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Btw....the faults always with the woman(?) nothing about him ever plays into it.. Can some adventurous Sagittarius woman jump into the ring and tell him how it is ?!

Yes, that was another thought with me.
"What a SPOILED, DECADENT, perfectionistic character!!"

But I was so floored by that US~against~the~world dance of him that he couldn't do any harm anymore...

what a romanticist I am

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posted July 10, 2014 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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there was a Sagge woman in the office who chased him like mad. Her Mars was also in Sagge and dead on his Juno, squaring his T-square to a Grand Cross.
She would storm into his office and take some seductive poses. She is married, btw.
Once, after her performance, he told me "well, doesn't she realize she is married? "
LOL

GREAT! haha pewwwwwww this guy is magnifique!!

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posted July 10, 2014 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
GREAT! haha pewwwwwww this guy is magnifique!!

what is your birth data? Your placements seem to hit his sensitive spots. I will check your composite and post it.

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posted July 10, 2014 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks

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posted July 10, 2014 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
One last observation jupiter and juno which both have to do with marriage form hard aspects to both his moon and venus.

Walla!


I think its Juno that plays number on him..

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