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Orange
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posted July 11, 2014 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir, got it

you have two (conjuncted) grand trines in the synastry, interwined into a grand sextile.

The composite has another grand trine between Sun/Saturn - Moon - Mars, and also a Psyche, Juno, Alma, Union conjunction at exact degree

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posted July 11, 2014 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a sensation...

To be honest, I like square ascendants (the more exact the better) ..

I also like the mars on my moon.. those are the best kissers u know..

yes yes yes yes.. what a match.. but I miss something but I dunno what..


COMPOSITE woww! (I'm thinking for all u asteroid freaks now )

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posted July 11, 2014 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is it about the squared asc?

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posted July 11, 2014 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They make you feel so soo alive you know... it's like you don't talk or interact with someone stupid or so.. well, even if the person WAS or felt stupid somehow then the vibrant and vital energy in-between would overrule the mindset .. something like that I guess; meeting of fun-loving energies.

I associate full fleshy lips with Scorp-Mars, no doubt about that, nor about the need for it to be a great kisser.

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posted July 11, 2014 03:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, I smell matchmaking. He's so popular here and we haven't even saw his pics.

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posted July 11, 2014 04:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
To answer your question, Lonake, in my view. I think in the person's chart, on a case by case basis, you will see, sometimes, the potential of a binding configuration. To me, this is reflected in geometric patterns.

The most binding configurations in synastry, IMO, are the Cross, the Kite and the Mystic Rectangle formations and their derivatives (such as the House). If that person has a geometry that is waiting to be completed (like a loose trine or a T/square), they will look for someone to complete those.

Now the trick here is that these configurations have to be, as I call them, "love" configurations. They must involve love planets and/or love rulers.

So they must contain Venus, Mars, Moon (maybe Sun too, although luminaries configurations are a bit different, unless the Sun is a love ruler). If someone has such a combo, they most likely look for love completion in this life, for a fulfilling love relationship and they have the "framework" for it (of course, not all people have geometric charts, some people have condensed charts that need to be evaluated a bit differently).


But I think if someone has such a love config in his chart, despite him/her being a long-term bachelor, chances are, with the proper person, he will be "caught".

Examples of love geometric config in a natal chart:

Venus trine Neptune, Mars trine Pluto, any trine involving love planets/rulers

GT between Mars Pluto Venus or Venus Moon Mars or other GT involving love planets

A Wedge with love planets


but I guess the most compelling are the love square formations: square or T/square (especially on the fixed axis). These people are most likely the ones compelled to find true love and their TF lol

So square between Venus and Mars, Pluto, Neptune, etc.

T square involving love planets

Not ALL planets in the config have to be love planets, of course, one or two are enough to have a love config.


thanks for this thought-provoking analysis, Leeloo. I myself have seen a synastry case in which a Grand Cross is formed between a man's Venus oppose Saturn and a woman's Mars oppose Saturn, works like a charm. Another Cross case would be a Square between love planets in one chart oppose a square between love planets in another's, sitting on opposite sides along houses axis like two wings. This Cross is about completion too, although it's not like a blissful T-square being completed, more like an explosive surprise.

Oops, I see that what I said isn't relevant to the topic, never mind.
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posted July 11, 2014 07:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Ok, leLo

Here is what i keep coming across when checking synastries of men being love smacked by a female.. That includes King Edward and Wallis , and now George too... In all of those cases i've checked so far, the man's 7th house ruler was in hard aspect, usually conjunction or opposition , with the female's Uranus.

My first reaction after looking at Georges synastry was to check how his 7th ruler was aspected. I mean, him being a confirmed bachelor and all... Again, his 7th ruler- Mercury, is in opposition to her Uranus.
For these men to jump start an unlikely relationship, Uranus on their 7th house ruler was the trigger..


This makes a lot of sense in such cases, because it means the woman brings a radical change/turning point to the man's relationship views/current status. Such as settling down for someone who has been restless in this department - it goes for Edward too. The reverse is possible for women too, of course ( a man and his Uranus to her 7th ruler). The hard aspect would symbolize the radical change/turning point value of Uranus here.


I suppose the same rule can apply to 5th rulers ( a major change in falling in love/romance patterns/views or maybe an aspect for a great love - falling hard) and 8th rulers ( a change in intimacy/sex status/views + initiation - for example it could be there for our initiation in sex/first relationship)

Uranus works as an initiation planet or a turning point from this POV.

Brilliant insight, sis!

I think it deserves a thread where we can check this theory - what change Uranus brought (by checking rulers) in our previous relationships/famous cases etc.

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posted July 11, 2014 07:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
thanks for this thought-provoking analysis, Leeloo. I myself have seen a synastry case in which a Grand Cross is formed between a man's Venus oppose Saturn and a woman's Mars oppose Saturn, works like a charm. Another Cross case would be a Square between love planets in one chart oppose a square between love planets in another's, sitting on opposite sides along houses axis like two wings. This Cross is about completion too, although it's not like a blissful T-square being completed, more like an explosive surprise.

Oops, I see that what I said isn't relevant to the topic, never mind.


Oh, yes, I call this the Firebird - a great passion - you can see it in Liz/Dick synastry.

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posted July 11, 2014 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
lol, I smell matchmaking. He's so popular here and we haven't even saw his pics.



Dont be stupid

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posted July 11, 2014 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I suppose the same rule can apply to 5th rulers ( a major change in falling in love/romance patterns/views or maybe an aspect for a great love - falling hard) and 8th rulers ( a change in intimacy/sex status/views + initiation - for example it could be there for our initiation in sex/first


Yes. I just looked at JayZ/Beyonce synastry and her Uranus conj his 7th house ruler exact. But then again Uranus is her 7th ruler so their 7 th rulers conj each other, which is even better.

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posted July 11, 2014 09:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, let's not call each other names. I'm sure it was an innocent joke

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posted July 11, 2014 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are right about Saturn here, I wonder if those pattern completions could make up for the seemingly lack of Saturn, especially since he has Moon conjunct Saturn. We'll have to wait and see.

EDIT: However, I see there that their Saturns are involved in a major Yod. And his Saturn apparently makes a novile to her Moon, and the other Moon quincunx Saturn, so they do have a subtle Moon/Saturn DW, in tune with his conjunction. In the composite, Venus trine Saturn.
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posted July 11, 2014 11:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wild Horses:
I think one of your friend's problems may be that his 5th and 11th houses are intercepted.

So, he's initially drawn to Virgo energy romantically, but craves Libra. His 11th house cusp in Pisces makes him initially feel loved by the dreamy romantic energy, but deep down he needs that Aries fight and fire to feel loved. Thus, him saying he wants a "you and me against the world" love. That's his 11th house craving Aries energy.


Great interpretation for the interception, Wild Horses. TOB must be very exact in this case, otherwise the whole interception thing changes.

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posted July 11, 2014 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I think its Juno that plays number on him..
Jupiter is at 6' Libra. Too far from Venus and Moon.
But Juppy, his 7th ruler, does conjunct Uranus, so that's that..

Juno more so than Jupiter but jupiter is forming a hard aspect to the moon by 8 orbs approaching and to venus by 9 orbs approaching...

I use wider orbs for luminaries and do check to see if an aspect is SEPARATING or APPROACHING...when approaching the aspect becomes stronger and more relevant as person gets older and when separating the aspect loses strength as person gets older.

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posted July 11, 2014 03:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Dont be stupid

I meant it as a joke, my bad.

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posted July 11, 2014 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
I meant it as a joke, my bad.


Oh okay, i thought you meant it. Im sorry too. Kisses.

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posted July 11, 2014 03:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Oh okay, i thought you meant it. Im sorry too. Kisses.

Awww, I have a soft spot for kisses

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posted July 11, 2014 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
Awww, I have a soft spot for kisses


Here, kitty, kitty...

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posted July 12, 2014 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
How do you call someone who doesn't want a relationship (at least temporarily) but isn't scared of commitment?
A freak?

Schizoid, maybe. Or just schizo spectrum. Hardly a freak, I'd say. Different paradigms for different people.

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posted July 12, 2014 10:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TOB unknown for her

another fixed cross with Venus/Uranus/Ceres and most likely Vertex. Of course, there's the another one as well.

major pattern completion

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posted July 12, 2014 11:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and major fixed cross with Sun/Moon/Saturn/Pluto and Ceres in the comp...and a Yod for you, Cappy...WOW...case closed!


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posted July 12, 2014 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woohoo, thanks, I'm so happy I can die now Does this structure made of blue lines have a name?

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted July 12, 2014 11:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Woohoo, thanks, I'm so happy I can die now Does this structure made of blue lines have a name?


No, we have to find a name..it looks so neat, with the Moon midpointing there. It all pours there...I think the woman is very cherished in the relationship. Annette's Psyche is there, and Warren's Venus/Uranus at 6-7 Taurus, on the other side (on the comp Sun).

It's an impressive comp...Mars a bit unaspected though...well, it does square Venus/Merc

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posted July 12, 2014 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Woohoo, thanks, I'm so happy I can die now Does this structure made of blue lines have a name?


its called "cradle"

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posted July 12, 2014 11:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
its called "cradle"

Oh, yes, sis...I meant the whole structure with the Cradle and the T/square/cross. How are your white angels? They are three, right?

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