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Topic: Musings on Solar Return and synastry
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15924 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 01, 2014 04:43 AM
After checking some unprecessed Solar Returns for past years, they still make a lot of sense. Unfortunately so do the precessed ones. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15924 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 01, 2014 04:52 AM
Nevertheless internally I am more inclined to the normal Solar Return chart, just because I donīt see why we would be mixing up zodiacs.The precessed ones is totally based on the sidereal zodiac, and then transformed back to the tropical one. It does not sit well with me astro-logically. http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/060731.html IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1267 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 01, 2014 05:55 AM
Well its the perfect day to check mine cause its my solar return today! For this year in my precessed SR (from today until September 2015): Jupiter conjunct DESC 0' (+ stellium of Jupiter, Sun, Mercury, Venus in the 7th) Moon conjunct MC 1' (this one explains a lot; I've actually been thinking about getting started with my ideal career-field already, which is makeup-artistry/cosmetology/aesthics. Although I'm still in college studying for it haha. But I really hope this means an opportunity presents itself this year!!! I feel ready. ) Asteroids: Psyche conjunct ASC 0' Valentine conjunct DESC 2' Precessed SR for next year (2015-2016): Pluto conjunct DESC 6' Sun conjunct IC 2' Jupiter conjunct IC 1' Eros conjunct IC 1' Neptune conjunct MC 2' Precessed SR for the year after(2016-2017): Moon conjunct ASC 6' Neptune conjunct DESC 8' Chiron conjunct DESC 4'( uh-oh.. wonder what this could signify lol) Mars conjunct IC 3' Saturn conjunct IC 7' Asteroids: Amor conjunct MC 1' Whats creepy about the precessed SRs is that they coincide with his natal too. (I only listed the angular/personal point aspects since they're the most precise.) P.SR for 2014-2015: My P.SR ASC conjunct his natal Vertex 2' My P.SR IC conjunct his natal MC 4' My P.SR Vertex conjunct his natal Sun-ASC 0'-1' P.SR for 2015-2016: My P.SR ASC conjunct his natal Jupiter 0' My P.SR DESC conjunct his natal Saturn 0' My P.SR DESC conjunct his natal Neptune 2' My P.SR IC conjunct his natal Sun 2' My P.SR MC conjunct his DESC 3' P.SR for 2016-2017: My P.SR ASC conjunct his natal Moon-Mars 0' My P.SR Vertex conjunct his natal NN 2'
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1267 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 01, 2014 06:12 AM
I also checked Virgo guy's P.SR cause it's his birthday today as well lolP.SR for 2014-2015: Sun conjunct ASC 8' Chiron conjunct DESC 1' P.SR for 2015-2016: Saturn conjunct ASC 6' Chiron conjunct IC 1' P.SR for 2016-2017: Moon conjunct DESC 1' Mercury conjunct DESC 8' Jupiter conjunct DESC 8' Chiron conjunct ASC 3' Dang Chiron pops up a lot for him. IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1267 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 01, 2014 06:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Nevertheless internally I am more inclined to the normal Solar Return chart, just because I donīt see why we would be mixing up zodiacs.The precessed ones is totally based on the sidereal zodiac, and then transformed back to the tropical one. It does not sit well with me astro-logically. http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/060731.html
I agree, I don't really get how its valid. Although its still fascinating to see the results it can deliver. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15924 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 01, 2014 12:10 PM
Happy birthday, Lavender!I hope you get the most wonderful professional and personal opportunities! IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1267 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 02, 2014 12:33 AM
Thank you so much, Ceri! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15924 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 02, 2014 01:26 AM
have you looked up past years with important events, and checked the precessed vs non precessed solar return in terms of planets on the angles? What did the check up deliver?IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1267 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 02, 2014 01:57 AM
For the year I found out about him (2008) this is what my precessed SR had:Neptune conjunct DESC 6' (LOLOLOL. Enough said. ) Psyche conjunct IC 2' Additional: Aspects to my natal: P.SR IC conjunct my natal NN 0' P.SR Vertex conjunct my natal Uranus 1' P.SR Vertex conjunct my natal Neptune 1' P.SR NN conjunct natal DESC 4' Aspects to his natal: P.SR ASC conjunct his natal SN 1' P.SR Moon conjunct his Juno 1' P.SR Mercury conjunct his Juno 2' P.SR Venus conjunct his Juno 0'02! IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1267 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 02, 2014 02:03 AM
The year I moved to Canada (2001):Precessed - Precessed: Mars conjunct ASC 0' Uranus conjunct DESC 1' Precessed - Natal IC conjunct IC 0' IC conjunct Jupiter 3' SN conjunct Uranus 0' SN conjunct Neptune 2'
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1267 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted September 02, 2014 02:30 AM
And for him, the year his career took off (2005):Precessed - Precessed: Moon conjunct MC 0' Venus conjunct ASC 6' Saturn conjunct ASC 6' Precessed - Natal IC conjunct Mercury 1' Mercury conjunct SN 0' Those Mercury aspects make sense because his career has to do with Mercurial things as well as travelling a lot lol.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 6989 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 18, 2014 01:04 PM
what was this for? 2014-2015?page 4 "I think Mars on MC with Mars ruling your natal IC and Uranus on IC...wow big changes!!! involving MC/IC axis, but this could mean many things...whatever it is, it's very important."
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15924 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 02:15 PM
Actually it is the current one, and it already fading out possibly. My next SR will have ASC on 24 Virgo, which funny enough is conjunct Mr Sags natal DESC on 25 Virgo and his Vertex-Aphrodite on 28 Virgo and his Saturn on 26 Virgo. lol oh now that is interesting, using the parallax corrected Moon, it actually was not on 29 Gemini but 00 Cancer. lol
Well the IC will stay important for me next year, as my SR Sun will be conj. it by 2 degrees, and naturally that puts Mr Sags natal Sun-Moon-MC near to it as well (within 5 degrees).
SR Mars will be in 5th house (in Aquarius. hahaha) and 2nd natal house.
An conjunction of Jupiter-Juno in Leo in 11th / 8th house overlay (SR and natal) and SR Juno will be opposite my natal Moon exact. Incidentally of course my natal Moon will fall into SR 5th house, I like my orbs tight, but in this instance I am inclined to pay attention to the fact that SR Mars is on 10 Aquarius and pretty near to that Moon on 17 Aquarius and in SR 5th house. That SR Mars is in 5 degree square to SR Moon on 5 Scorpio in 2nd/ 11th overlay, and naturally the SR Moon is rather close to my Uranus on 1 sCorpio.
and Sr Uranus on 12 Aries conj. SR SN on 16 Aries in 7th/ 4th overlay, might considered be sextile the natal Moon as well as SR Mars.
Interesting. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15924 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 02:17 PM
ROFLWhen I am back I wil highlight the Solar Return synastry between Mr Sag and me next year. This is just too good to not share. later. IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1267 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2014 02:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: ROFLWhen I am back I wil highlight the Solar Return synastry between Mr Sag and me next year. This is just too good to not share. later.
I can't wait to see IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1600 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 18, 2014 02:54 PM
Wow, nice thread !I know I'm too far behind the conversation ^^ but I'm super excited about my Solar Return for this year, it would be nearly one month from now. My peregrine Jupiter is being made angular, on SR ASC, ta da! I'm hoping for a lot of luck and fortunate events, of course it could mean total disaster but let's be optimistic . At the moment progressed DSC conjunct my natal Sun exact and progressed Vertex conjunct natal Venus exact, Venus is Vertex ruler too, so I'm looking for love magic lol. Back to purely Solar Return, for me in 2014-2015: ASC ruler, also 5th and 2nd houses ruler, conjunct DSC 3 degrees in 7th house Sun, Venus, Mercury all in 7th house, of course committed relationship would on my mind with all that progressions going on. DSC ruler, also 8th house ruler, Jupiter in 4th house, here there's something interesting going on: Jupiter (DSC ruler/8th house ruler), Uranus (MC ruler) and Venus in a Fire Grand Trine, exactly like my superior Venus Star Point chart. The trine from Jupiter to Uranus in my SR is too wide in orb, but heck, I'm in a generous mood because it's Jupiter lol. The only thing I'm worried about is intercepted Saturn 5 degrees from DSC in the 6th house. With all the things that I read about this means loss of a family member, I'm paranoid . Compare to my natal: Natal Jupiter conjunct SR ASC 2 Natal MC conjunct SR MC 1 Natal Mars conjunct SR Moon 2 Natal Anti-Vertex conjunct SR MC ruler 0 So overall, an emphasis on Jupiter, Vertex and the MC/its ruler. Is it safe to say I can expect love this year?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 15924 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 04:58 PM
since we were born just one day of each other, our planets in SR will be the same, but what is different are the angles, Vertex and Moon. his SR ASC 27 Virgo his SR Vertex 24 Pisces my SR ASC 25 Virgo his n DESC 25 Virgo his n Saturn 26 Virgo his n Vertex 28 Virgo his n Venus 25 Cap his SR IC 26 Sag my Sr IC 23 Sag his n Sun 26 Sag my n Sun 26 Sun my n Mercury 25 Sag his n Moon 28 Sag his n MC 28 Sag and remember the widish square of SR Moon to SR Mars in my chart
Well in the composite SR Moon is on 11 Scorpio in 2/9 closely square SR Mars in 5/1. more than this SR Moon is conjunct composite chartruler Uranus under one degree. lol and conjuncts composite MC by 5 degrees, opposing Eros-PRiapus, too SR Vx conj. composite Ceres
SR NN conjunct composite Pluto in 1/8 Sr Jupiter - Juno conjunct n Saturn in 11/7
SR Venus conjunct SR Pluto by 3 degrees in 4/12, and actually SR Pluto is already 4 degrees conjunct our composite Venus as well. I donīt know if it means anything, but SR 5th house cusp is EXACTLY conjunct composite ASC on 1 Aquarius. lol
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 6989 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 04:57 PM
awww, it's going to be such a great year for you, Tulipe, that's what I think. Jupiter emphasis for a Sag is such a blessing. And MC on MC is like a return: it's like the activation of your natal MC. I see veeeery important meetings next year and a very intimate atmosphere as well.------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Tulipe Knowflake Posts: 1600 From: France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 05:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: awww, it's going to be such a great year for you, Tulipe, that's what I think. Jupiter emphasis for a Sag is such a blessing. And MC on MC is like a return: it's like the activation of your natal MC. I see veeeery important meetings next year and a very intimate atmosphere as well.
Aww thanks Lee, I'll shoot my arrow this year! I'm trying to get out of progressed Neptune's frog on my MC for sometimes now, I hope my MC will get a boost soon.
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