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Tulipe
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posted July 23, 2014 02:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can contribute the part my male god being activated by his female goddess:

my Siva conjunct his Parvati 2
my Siva square his Tara 0
my Rudra sextile his Tara 0
my Mahalingam quincunx his Kaali 1
my Hara quincunx his Satie 2

my Parvati square his Rudra 2
my Kaali square his Shankar 2
my Kaali oppose his Mahalingam 2
my Kaali oppose his Hara 2

in Composite:
Parvati conjunct Mahakla 0 (conjunct Saturn 2)
Kaali oppose Rudra 1
Kaali trine Mahakala 0
Kaali quincunx Shakar 2
Satie quincunx Siva 0
Tara on DSC 0

As for Raman and Sita: no synastric aspects, only a Ramakrishna sextile Sita 1 in Composite (Ramakrishna conjunct DSC 0, Sita sextile DSC 0)

As for Vedic asteroids being important in our natal charts:
he has Siva on ASC
I have Kaali on North Node oppose Moon.

I notice something intersting with Satie in my chart and his.
I have Satie oppose Siva exact (which connect to his Parvati)
He has Satie oppose Mahalingam/Hara (which connect to my Kaali)

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quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:

I notice something intersting with Satie in my chart and his.
I have Satie oppose Siva exact (which connect to his Parvati)
He has Satie oppose Mahalingam/Hara (which connect to my Kaali)


That was an inspired observation . These links could be referred to as complimentary.

Does orb 2 mean between 2 and 3 degrees? Also, are there any other close aspects with natal planets?

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posted July 23, 2014 03:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
That was an inspired observation . These links could be referred to as complimentary.

Does orb 2 mean between 2 and 3 degrees? Also, are there any other close aspects with natal planets?


Yes, it exceed 2 degrees by several minutes, you think it's too wide? You mean close aspects from asteroids to natal planets in natal chart or synastry?

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posted July 23, 2014 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natal planets or angles. Like the Siva conj Asc.

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quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
Natal planets or angles. Like the Siva conj Asc.

Ah, thanks for clarifying, I see.

For me, Kaali square Sun/Mercury, oppose Moon, conjunct North Node, trine Venus (all 0 orb lol).
Hara oppose Mars 0
Siva quincunx Jupiter 0


For him, Kaali trine MC 0
Tara oppose Venus 0
Parvati conjunct Jupiter 0, trine Moon 1, square Venus 0


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posted July 24, 2014 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RESULTS

I wanted to share some quantative results for the aspects provided in this thread. More to be added later and I'll amend the results accordingly. So far, for 10 people, the top 5 most common pairings listed in order of frequency are as follows:

Rudra/Kaali - 8
Mahalingam/Kaali and Rudra/Tara - 6 each
Raman/Sita - 5
(all of these were trines or sextiles)

Many at 4 - Siva/Parvati, Shiva/Kaali, Mahalingam/Parvati, Shankar/Kaali, Shankar/Sati

What is interesting is to see that Mahalingam/Kaali featured amongst the top 3. This pairing alone could be investigated - e.g., did Mahalingam form close aspects for those who had experienced a Kundlalini rise through the relationship? I am beginning to suspect it might have done. However, the sample here is too small. If it did, did it also form a pairing in your natal?

Here's a glimpse of the data gathering spreadsheet:

I only considered aspects with orbs unto 2 degrees (unless a DW), and gave equal weighting to the aspects I recorded- conjunctions, squares, opps, sextile, trine, quincunx and quintile - which is what the colour coding refers to.

Only took synastries and composites into account as these were provided by all. I really should have spelt out the parameters more clearly at the start, with questions, to ensure that everyone provided the same data and with greater precision (hopefully everyone checked on the asteroids I had asked for). It would have been interesting to see whether any pairings were represented in natals, for example, as not all provided their natal aspects.


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posted July 24, 2014 10:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which male or female form featured most in pairings amongst the SIVA/PARVATI asteroids

FEMALE
Kaali 26
Parvati 17
Tara 15
Sati 13

It was KAALI - unsurprisingly, as Kaali is the key asteroid that represents the Kundalini.

MALE
Rudra - 17
Mahalingam - 15
Siva - 13
Mahakala -12
Shankar -11
Hara - 7

The above count is entirely dependent on everyone having included these asteroids in their charts, of course.


To everyone who's contributed here:

Ceridwen
Ail
KarmicMoon
LeeLoo
Amelia
Blind Writer
MorpHnStorm
Tulipe

In case you didn't put up charts or give your natal aspects, would you mind adding those (with orbs) for the Vedic asteroids listed at the start? Thank you (and I'll be able to colour code the beautiful Excel chart even more).

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posted July 25, 2014 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
In case you didn't put up charts or give your natal aspects, would you mind adding those (with orbs) for the Vedic asteroids listed at the start? Thank you (and I'll be able to colour code the beautiful Excel chart even more).

Not a problem! And yes, definitely no surprise about KAALI. I have KAALI conj SUN-MERC, KAALI quintile MOON, and NEPTUNE conj KAALI in geo synastry. She's not one to be overshadowed, that one.

My Geo natal aspects
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PARVATI square SHANKAR 3°
KAALI semisquare HARA 1°
TARA quintile MAHAKALA 0°
TARA conj MAHALINGAM 2°
TARA sextile HARA 0°
SATIE trine RUDRA 3°
SATIE opp MAHALINGAM 3°
SATIE trine HARA 1°

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His Geo natal aspects
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PARVATI semisextile SIVA 1°
PARVATI sextile MAHAKALA 1°
PARVATI trine SHANKAR 1°
KAALI sextile MAHALINGAM 2°
KAALI semisextile HARA 2°
TARA sextile MAHALINGHAM 2°
TARA semisextile HARA 2°
SATIE square RUDRA 0°
SATIE semisquare SHANKAR 2°

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posted July 25, 2014 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Kaali scorp@2.15
His Mahalingam taurus@3.02
My Uranus scorp@4.44
His Sun taurus@3.32

His Rudra cancer@5.10
My Tara virgo@5.49
His Kaali aries@5.44
My Karma libra@5.49
His Uranus libra@5.05
My Sun saggy@4.28
His Moon saggy@5.05
My Merc saggy@3.32
My Saturn leo@2.50

His Sita cap@5.15
My Ramachandran pisces@4.33

My Soulie/Parvarti/Union scorp29-saggy@0
My Mahalingam scorp@28.59
His Parvarti aries@0.46
His Neptune saggy@0.20

My Rudra cap@16.28
His Tara pisces@16.19
My Hara scorp@17.38
My Pallas pisces@17
My Moon virgo@18
My Angel cap@16
His AC cap@14

My Sita libra@16.41
His Raman gemini@15.50
My Psyche gem@15.56
My Jupiter aries@15.05
His BM Lilith leo@15

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Astro keen
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posted July 25, 2014 03:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great!

Btw, how come no one has admired my spreadsheet?

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posted July 25, 2014 03:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so let´s doing that a little more structured.

2 degree orbs (3 for conj.), only these asteroids, but also noting important connection to the angles and major planets, including 5th and 8th harmonic aspects.


MY NATAL
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KAALI conjunct SN 2°37
KAALI quinkunx SIVA 2°11 (just out of orb)
KAALI square Jupiter 1°34

TARA sextile RUDRA 1°22
TARA oposite Venus 0°45

SATI sextile SHANKAR 0°36
SATI quink. MAHALINGA 1°45
SATI square Uranus 0°40

MHAKALA opposite Mercury 1°47
MAHAKALA opposite Sun 2°40

MAHALINGAM square Mars 1°24
MAHALINGAM quinkunx SHANKAR (1°09)

RUDRA square ASC 1°14
RUDRA square Neptune 1°42
rUDRA square NN 1°56
RUDRA opp. Jupiter 2°58

SIVA trine Saturn 1°59

SHANKAR conj. IC 2°22
SHANKAR quink. Uranus 1°16

SATI biquintile RUDRA 0°14
KAALI semisquare HARA 0°49
SHANKAR semisquare Moon 0°31

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posted July 25, 2014 03:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HIS natal
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SHANKAR trine ASC
SHANKAR square Pluto
SHANKAR trine TARA
SHANKAR Trine Uranus exact
SHANKAR opp. Venus (2-3)

SATI conj. NN (3)
SATI sextile RUDRA xact
SATI square KAALI

TARA conj. Uranus

KAALI conj. Mercury (2-3)

HARA trine chrion exact
HARA trine Mars-Jupiter exact

SIVA conj. Venus
SIVA conj. MAHALINGA (2-3)
SIVA trine Saturn, DESC, Vertex

MAHALINGA quink. NN exact

PARVATI conj. SN
PARVATI sextile Moon

SIVA biquintile SATI 0.42
SHANKAR biquintile PARVATI 0.43


RUDRA semisquare Neptune 0.05
KAALI semisquare Pluto 0.24

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posted July 25, 2014 04:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice diagram up there


To keep it simple, here are the aspects between the Yin-Yang-pairings only. orb 2 degrees, 5th and 8th harmonic aspects within 1 degree orb


his Kaali square my Rudra

his Tara quinkunx my Mahalingam
his Tara quintile my Rudra

his Sati conjunct my Mahalingam exact
his Sati quintile my Siva exact
his Sati quintile my Mahakali exact

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his Siva quinkunx my Parvati exact
his Siva sesissquare my Kaali exact

his Rudra trine my Tara
his Rudra biquintile my Kaali

his Mahalingam conjunct my Sati exact

DW:
Rudra/Kaali
Rudra / Tara
Mahalinga/ Sati


a lot of 5th harmonic aspects coming up again (4 out of 11 I think). This fits the theme the 5th harmonic seems to be one of the strongest between us. Oh the fun to be had!

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quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
[b]RESULTS

I wanted to share some quantative results for the aspects provided in this thread. More to be added later and I'll amend the results accordingly. So far, for 10 people, the top 5 most common pairings listed in order of frequency are as follows:

Rudra/Kaali - 8
Mahalingam/Kaali and Rudra/Tara - 6 each
Raman/Sita - 5
(all of these were trines or sextiles)

Many at 4 - Siva/Parvati, Shiva/Kaali, Mahalingam/Parvati, Shankar/Kaali, Shankar/Sati

What is interesting is to see that Mahalingam/Kaali featured amongst the top 3. This pairing alone could be investigated - e.g., did Mahalingam form close aspects for those who had experienced a Kundlalini rise through the relationship? I am beginning to suspect it might have done. However, the sample here is too small. If it did, did it also form a pairing in your natal?

Here's a glimpse of the data gathering spreadsheet:

I only considered aspects with orbs unto 2 degrees (unless a DW), and gave equal weighting to the aspects I recorded- conjunctions, squares, opps, sextile, trine, quincunx and quintile - which is what the colour coding refers to.

Only took synastries and composites into account as these were provided by all. I really should have spelt out the parameters more clearly at the start, with questions, to ensure that everyone provided the same data and with greater precision (hopefully everyone checked on the asteroids I had asked for). It would have been interesting to see whether any pairings were represented in natals, for example, as not all provided their natal aspects.


TO CONTINUE[/B]


Thanks for the spreadsheet, Astro Keen

Good job!

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Astro keen
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Thank you Vajra,

Could you tell me a little about your relationship. Also, if you have any Indian connection. Another thing that would be helpful to know about is whether you experienced a Kundalini activation through your relationship. Many of the people who have contributed did, and there may be associated aspects.

The orbs that you've listed as 2 - are these at or less than 2 degrees, or are they between 2 and 3 degrees?

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Here are our natal degrees.
My natal:
Kaali 2 59 taurus
Parvati 4 26 Taurus
Tara 9 45 Taurus
Satie 8 42 Virgo

Siva 6 31 leo
Rudra 12 18 Leo
Mahakala. 19 45 Leo
Shankar 23 25 Aries
Hara 10 11 Aries
Mahalingam 5 49 Gemini

Ramakrishna 9 34 Gemini
Ramachandran 3 00 Pisces
Raman 11 55 Cancer
Sita 24 12 Sag

Hs natal:
Kaali 10 18 Sag
Parvati 3 20 Pisces
Tara. 27 30 Scorpio
Satie 4 52 Virgo

Siva 1 16 Aquarius
Rudra 10 32 Scorpio
Mahakala 15 08 Taurus
Shankar 21 49 Cancer
Hara 13 27 Cap
Mahalingam 5 42 Aquarius

Ramakrishna 26 20 Sag
Ramachandran 28 15 Capricorn
Raman 21 12 Leo
Sita 22 58 Sag

AK, you are awesome!

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Thanks Astrokeen for the extensive research, I didn't know about these asteroids pairs except Siva-Parvati and Kaali-Rudra, totally broaden my knowledge. And I'm admiring your spreadsheet, my Virgo side appreciate a good organised liste .

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posted July 25, 2014 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine
Parvati opp Uranus (0)
Parvati quincunx Nn/Mc (0)
Parvati conjunct Pallas 2
Parvati sextile Kaali 1
Parvati square Mahalingamn 2
Parvati trine Hara 3
Parvati trine Juno 2

Kaali square Moon 3
Kaali quincunx Mc/Nn (0)
Kaali Trine Mars/Uranus (1)
Kaali Sextile Pallas (0)
Kaali opp Hara 4

Tara conjunct Asc 3
Tara sextile Sun/Jupiter (0)
Tara trine Saturn 2
Quincunx Vertex 2

Satie trine Neptune (0)
Satie sextile Pluto/Juno 2
Satie Quincunx Siva (0)
Satie quintile Rudra 1
Satie trine Mahakala 2
Satie quincunx Mahaligamn 2
Satie opp Hara 1

Siva opp Mercury/Ceres (0)
Siva square Pluto/Juno 2
Siva sq Mahakala 2
Siva sextile Mahaligamn 1

Rudra conjunct Venus 1
Rudra trine vertex 1

Mahakala square Mercury 3
Mahakala trine Neptune 2
Mahakala opp Pluto 1
Mahakala conjunct Vesta 1

Shankar quincunx Chiron (0)
Shankar quincunx vertex 2

Mahaligamn trine Mercury/ceres 2
Square Uranus 2
Sq Neptune 3
Sextile Nn 2

Hara quincunx Mercury/ceres 1
Sextile neptune 2

Ramakrishna conjunct Raman 3
Ramakrishan opp Sita 9 (included because we both have this opposition)

Ramakrishna square Mercury 2
Square NN/Mc 2

Ramachandran sq Saturn 3
Sq Jupiter 4
Sq Chiron 0

Raman opposite mars 1
Sextile Uranus 1
Square Nn/MC 0

Sita trine Saturn 2
Opposite Pluto 4
Sextile Chiron 0

HIM

Parvati quintile Mercury (0)
Parvati sextile Venus 2
Parvati trine Jupiter (0)
Patvati trine Uranus 3
Quintile pluto (0)
Sextile Chiron 2
Opposite Juno 4
Trine Rudra 3
Sextile Siva/Hara 2

Kaali sextile Sun 1
Kaali conjunct Saturn 2
Kaali sextile Mahakala 1
Opposite Shankar 4

Tara square Mars 3
Tara opposite Neptune 1
Tara square NN (0)
Tara conjunct Chiron 3
Tara opposite Ceres 2

Satie conjunct Pluto 4

Shiva trine Venus (0)
Shiva square Mars 4
Shiva sextile Jupiter 2
Shiva opposite Uranus 1
Shiva conjunct chiron 4
Shiva trine Juno 1
Shiva sextile Rudra/Hara (0)

Rudra opposite Venus (0)
Rudra conjunct Jupiter 2
Rudra trine Uranus (0)
Rudra sextile Juno 1
Rudra conjunct Hara (0)

Mahakala conjunct Sun 2
Sextile Saturn (0)
Trine Shankar 3

Shankar opposite Saturn 2
Shankar trine Juno 3

Mahalingamn quincunx mercury (0)
Opposite Pallas 3

Hara opposite Venus (0)
Hara conjunct Jupiter 1
Trine Uranus 1
Sextile Juno 2
Square Vesta 3

Ramakrishna opposite Sita 3
Square venus 2
Quintile NN 1
Sq Jupiter 4

Ramachandra Conjunct Mars 3
Square Uranus 1
Square Chiron 4

Raman trine Sun 0
Opposite Saturn 4


I didn't include any minor aspects other than quintile and quincunx.

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Thank you all.

@ Vajra, great info! Try and leave some bits, esp. about the close telepathic and mutual healing link. That's lovely!

This thread holds much useful info for anyone to extrapolate patterns, similarities etc. Will gradually update spreadsheet and post any further observations.

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I edited my original post to add natal placements, I had forgotten to look at comp chart...here is our aspects there-
Parvarti aqua@0.53
Shankar gemini@1.56
Pluto libra@3.05
Varuna gem@3.59

Kaali cap@18.59
Hara cap@16.16
NN cap@16.04
Mahakala leo@17.46

Tara gemini@11.04
Rudra aries@10.49
BM Lilith gem@9.10
My natal Pluto libra@11.05
My natal Neptune saggy@11.15

Sadie cancer@22.47
Siva pisces@23.34
Jupiter cap@22.54
My NN scorp@21.44

Synastry-
My Kaali scorp@2.15
His Mahalingam taurus@3.02
His Jupiter scorp@0.46
My Uranus scorp@4.44
His Sun taurus@3.32
His Rudra cancer@5.10
My Tara virgo@5.49
His Kaali aries@5.44
My Karma libra@5.49
His Uranus libra@5.05
My Sun saggy@4.28
His Moon saggy@5.05
My Merc saggy@3.32
My Saturn leo@2.50
His Mars gemini@3.43

His Sita cap@5.15
My Ramachandran pisces@4.33

My Soulie/Parvarti/Union scorp29-saggy@0
His Varuna taurus@ 29.41
My Mahalingam scorp@28.59
His Parvarti aries@0.46
His Neptune saggy@0.20

My Rudra cap@16.28
His Tara pisces@16.19
My Hara scorp@17.38
My Pallas pisces@17
My Moon virgo@18
My Angel cap@16
His AC cap@14

My Sita libra@16.41
His Raman gemini@15.50
My Psyche gem@15.56
My Jupiter aries@15.05
His BM Lilith leo@15
Comp Mahalingam aqua@16.00
Comp Mahakala leo@17.46
Comp Chiron aries@16.04
Comp Mars@16.38

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How does Varuna play in?


Varuna -Faced with the dilemma of how to cross the ocean to Lanka, where his abducted wife Sita is held captive by the demon king Ravana, Rama (an Avatar of Vishnu) performs a penance (tapasya) to Varuna, the Lord of Oceans, fasting and meditating in perfect dhyana for three days and three nights. Varuna does not respond, and Rama arises on the fourth morning, enraged by the God's arrogance. With his bow and arrow, he angrily begins attacking the oceans with celestial weapons—burning up the waters and killing its life and creatures.


I found this link interesting..... http://mythology.wikia.com/wiki/Hindu_mythology

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Varuna, God of the water elements or the Oceans, is kinda like Poseidon. He's ascribed with different qualities by astrologers. Certain Varuna transits are noted during floods. Ami Anne thinks Varuna endows people with Charisma.

And he doesn't have a mate - thank goodness !

Varuna CONJ DNA:
Element of WATER is strong in your genes, perhaps a distant ancestor was a devotee of Neptune or any Elemental Water Deity - iQ

I am attempting to collate info on all Vedic asteroids in this thread. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/003010.html - a good place for discussion or adding research.

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