posted July 30, 2014 10:11 AM            

I'm especially interested in a DW of
Draco Venus conjunct natal IC
one Draco Venus also conjuncts natal NN

What about these conjunctions within our Draco and our natal?

posted July 30, 2014 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by KarmicMoon:
His draco Venus 3 50 Virgo cj my Natal SN 3 41 Virgo.

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posted August 01, 2014 11:29 AM            

Draco Psyche conjunct IC
Draco Eros conjunct Sun
Draco Karma conjunct Mars
Draco Cupido conjunct Vesta
Draco Vertex conjunct Neptune
Draco Amor conjunct NN
Draco Mars/Pluto conjunct ASC
Draco Neptune opp Sun

What about yours and what do they mean to you?

posted August 03, 2014 02:18 PM            

the tropical planet opens a portal through which you can access a soul-dimension of another planet (the Draco).

So in the case of Draco Venus and natal IC, whatever touches the IC also touches the Draco Venus. While IC conjunctions unbelievably deep anyway, very soulfully intimate can stay totally platonic, here in this instance it seems like there is coming a touch of soul-romance coming with it.

Draco Venus conjunct natal NN is unbelievably signficant, as the Draco charts are nodal charts pers se. Follow your path, and you will touch the others Venus on a very deep level. While trpical Venus is all about attraction and thses things, the Draco Venus, while also indicative of this, adds a level of "meaningfulness" to it. A feeling of like meant-to-be-love.

However, since we are talking about a deeper layer of the soul here, it might stay subtle, and being channelled through the tropical planet. It is difficult to say with points.

But let`s say a tropical Mercury were conjunct Draco Venus.
On the face-to-face-level we would see the communication and Mercurial things, but what it feels underneath like would be very Venusian.

It would make sense to see where the tropical Venus is, too, to see how Venus-things are expressed in the day-to-day-context

For example my Draco Venus is in Aries, my tropical Venus in Capricorn.

While my tropical Venus shows a lot of reserve and seriousness, you would never guess how much fire is there underneath - of course both are cardinal signs. lol

Actually I find it interesting, but I hae a friend whose trpical Moon is conjunct my Draco Sun in Aries, while my tropical Moon conjuncts her Draco Sun in Aquarius.

In the beginning I thought she was projcting things on me, seeing something that was not quite there, cause I myself did not see it.
What I mean was that she always admired how independent I was, assertive, uncompromising, with a lot of energy, when I personally thought I was the lazist bum on earth, not capable of anything that took some power. And certainly not a model of strenght and courage!

I remember when I approached Mr Sag and impulsively asked him for his birthtime, I was so shocked about my own behaviour, and when telling her I said: "I can`t believe I did that. That is so not me."

She laughed a little on the other end of the line, and then said: "Of course you did that. If anyone did tha, it would be you. That is TOTALLY you."

Draco Sun in Aries, ladies and gentlemen. LOL

posted August 03, 2014 02:27 PM            

While I wouldnīt associate the nodal chart with past lives so absolutely like I did here, I think the metaphor is still apt.

posted August 03, 2014 02:36 PM            

His Draco psyche conjunct her natal juno
Her Draco juno conjunct his natal psyche
Tropical composite has juno conjunct psyche

His Draco juno conjunct her natal S node. Both exact as well.

posted August 03, 2014 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
View it like this:

the tropical planet opens a portal through which you can access a soul-dimension of another planet (the Draco).

So in the case of Draco Venus and natal IC, whatever touches the IC also touches the Draco Venus. While IC conjunctions unbelievably deep anyway, very soulfully intimate can stay totally platonic, here in this instance it seems like there is coming a touch of soul-romance coming with it.

Draco Venus conjunct natal NN is unbelievably signficant, as the Draco charts are nodal charts pers se. Follow your path, and you will touch the others Venus on a very deep level. While trpical Venus is all about attraction and thses things, the Draco Venus, while also indicative of this, adds a level of "meaningfulness" to it. A feeling of like meant-to-be-love.

However, since we are talking about a deeper layer of the soul here, it might stay subtle, and being channelled through the tropical planet. It is difficult to say with points.

But let`s say a tropical Mercury were conjunct Draco Venus.
On the face-to-face-level we would see the communication and Mercurial things, but what it feels underneath like would be very Venusian.

It would make sense to see where the tropical Venus is, too, to see how Venus-things are expressed in the day-to-day-context

For example my Draco Venus is in Aries, my tropical Venus in Capricorn.

While my tropical Venus shows a lot of reserve and seriousness, you would never guess how much fire is there underneath - of course both are cardinal signs. lol

Actually I find it interesting, but I hae a friend whose trpical Moon is conjunct my Draco Sun in Aries, while my tropical Moon conjuncts her Draco Sun in Aquarius.

In the beginning I thought she was projcting things on me, seeing something that was not quite there, cause I myself did not see it.
What I mean was that she always admired how independent I was, assertive, uncompromising, with a lot of energy, when I personally thought I was the lazist bum on earth, not capable of anything that took some power. And certainly not a model of strenght and courage!

I remember when I approached Mr Sag and impulsively asked him for his birthtime, I was so shocked about my own behaviour, and when telling her I said: "I can`t believe I did that. That is so not me."

She laughed a little on the other end of the line, and then said: "Of course you did that. If anyone did tha, it would be you. That is TOTALLY you."

Draco Sun in Aries, ladies and gentlemen. LOL

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Wow..thank you, Ceri I was counting on you

So basically ( if I understand correctly) you see the Draco planet as a "fated" planetary energy, defining the person when it comes to their life path, like a guiding star related to their life path (for that specific planetary energy).

And the tropical planet (either in natal or coming from another person) will trigger that, like bringing in to light, giving it its purpose - it's as if that person (the tropical planet) is actually activating your nodes.

I've tried to let myself inspired by your line of thinking, I'm not sure it's the right path haha

For example, our Draco Venus might say something about our fated love in this life and someone conjuncting it with something important might give her purpose and recognition and trigger the path.
Something like that?

EDIT: Like in your example, someone conjuncting your Draco Sun perceives that energy coming from you, perhaps even better than you, encourages it and thus triggers it, somehow.

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posted August 03, 2014 03:02 PM            

For example: someone's tropical MC conjuncts the other's Juno/Jupiter. It could mean that when the other reaches his MC (witch happens when he reaches a certain culmination in life), this in turn is associated with the other's activation of Juno/Jupiter: meaning there's a timing between his MC and her marrying or having a partner(him). Or perhaps this means they meet through work. Anyway, there is a life path involving one's MC and the other's marriage. What do you think?

posted August 03, 2014 05:03 PM            

" like a guiding star related to their life path (for that specific planetary energy)."
Possibly.

I find it interesting though what the nodal axis really is, a combination of Sun, Moon and Earth.

Not sure how to apply this to practical interpretation, but it sure seems significant.

"it's as if that person (the tropical planet) is actually activating your nodes."
Kind of. But important is the planet in question. just that it has a bit of a nodal twist.

However, in Uranian astrology for example the nodal axis is just about connecting (not necessarily anything spiritual), I find that interesting as well.

"For example, our Draco Venus might say something about our fated love in this life and someone conjuncting it with something important might give her purpose and recognition and trigger the path."
Not sure about fated love.

But apart from that yes I think so.

"EDIT: Like in your example, someone conjuncting your Draco Sun perceives that energy coming from you, perhaps even better than you, encourages it and thus triggers it, somehow."
Yes.

posted August 03, 2014 05:11 PM            

(of course sometimes experiences seem to come from outside to us, if we donīt work actively with these energies inside us. If I refuse expressing my Pluto on MC, it usualy comes in the form of some outer experience. Which is the reason I nowadays rather express it myself. lol)

Anyway for the Juno-Jupiter-MC-thing I would check for progressions and transits to the tropical point. It is through the tropical that these underlying feelings and energies find expression.

My most prominent Draco-natal thingy is my Draco Moon being conjunct my tropical DESC by about 5 minutes of arc. lol

posted August 03, 2014 06:28 PM            

my Draco - natal
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Vesta conjunct Chiron in 4th
IC conjunct Vertex in 8th
Uranus widely conjunct Moon (4) in Aquarius. lol in 2nd
Venus widely opposite Uranus (5) on the 11th cusp
Moon conjunct SN in 7th
Moon conjunct DESC exact in 7th
Jupiter opposite Vesta exact in 1st
Jupiter opposite Venus wide (5) in 1st
Juno opposite Venus exact in 1st
BML conjunct Karma. lol in 7th

It`s pretty clear that in my Draco-natal themese surrounding the feminine dominate.
And what an Uranian feminine! lol

Also a lot ending up touching or taking place in my tropical 7th house, which is without planets in my tropical.

I find it interesting that my Draco Juno is exactly opposite my tropical Venus, and Mr Sag has the opposition in tropical (same signs, too, but not conjunct).

Speaking of him, his own Draco/Natal
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BML conjunct ASC in 1st
BML opposite Saturn in 7th exact
BML conj. Avx
Jupiter conj. Ceres in 1st
Mars conj. Ceres in 1st
SAturn widely opposite pluto in 7th (4)
Pluto opposite Uranus in 8th
Uranus opposite Neptune in 9th

Uranus opposite Sun in 9th wide (4)
(see? his Draco Uranus opposite his tropical Sun; my Draco Uranus conjunct my tropical Moon.)

Sun conjunct Juno in 5th
Sun opposite Venus in 11th exact
MC conjunczt Juno in 5th
IC conjunct Venus in 11th
Moon conjunct Juno in 5th exact
Moon opposite Venus in 11th

Venus conjunct BML in 6th

ASC conjunct pluto in 7th (3)

Chiron conjunct Mercury on 9th cusp, but still from 8th

Juno opposite BML in 6th

posted August 04, 2014 03:39 AM            

Sorry, got myself into a rerun of the Superman-series. Damn it, Dean Cain looked pretty fine in these days.

posted August 04, 2014 05:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It`s like going out, just encountering people on the street only to find you face to face with someone from the planet Kyrpton to tell you you`re the heir to their new-built kingdom.

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posted August 04, 2014 06:51 AM            

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It`s like going out, just encountering people on the street only to find you face to face with someone from the planet Kyrpton to tell you you`re the heir to their new-built kingdom.

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posted May 08, 2015 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Lumi0:
LeeLoo,

Im curious about your Psyche/IC draconic. Do you find it to be of significance to you? I find interpreting Psyche when she's conjunct the IC very difficult, because her qualities seem to become "soulbound." Basically, unaccessible by normal means. I have the aspect in my natal chart, but am curious about the effect in draconic.

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Well, wouldn't you say they are a trademark for that person's IC (heart, soul)? This is how I see it. So whatever Psyche means (lots of great things, but I don't want to describe them in connection to my own IC lol) is a distinctive, profound feature for the person. Psychic and psychological gifts can also be part of it but not only.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

LeeLoo's Esotericorner

posted May 08, 2015 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, wouldn't you say they are a trademark for that person's IC (heart, soul)? This is how I see it. So whatever Psyche means (lots of great things, but I don't want to describe them in connection to my own IC lol) is a distinctive, profound feature for the person. Psychic and psychological gifts can also be part of it but not only.

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Pretty much anything on one's IC is a "trademark", yes, but accessible? Not sure. Or perhaps its just Psyche...

posted May 08, 2015 02:00 PM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

LeeLoo's Esotericorner

posted May 08, 2015 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Why do you think IC is not accessible? We feel things happening there as a punch in the belly, it's the most intimate part of the chart, we share only with "family".

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