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Author Topic:   Parallels in Synastry - how do you feel about them?
Ceridwen
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posted September 02, 2014 09:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indigo wrote it somewhere here, I think based on talking to quite renowned astrologers.

Personally I feel the same, anything exceeding 1 degree feels like reaching to me. lol
However there might be exception in case of rolling declinations.


For example in my own natal I have:

Moon 11.05 S
Uranus 11.27 S
Pluto 11.40 N

and Juno 10.22 S.

Now the first three are definitely aligned. What about Juno though?
She IS within orb for parallel Moon, but would be out of orb for contraparallal Pluto (1°18).
However Moon IS in contraprallel to Pluto, so what to do about that?
Cutting off Juno?

Actually I think in this instance she is part of the whole, even if the orb is exceeding one degree.

Well the evivalent chart has

Pluto 29°24 Leo/ 00°35 Taurus
Juno 03°04 Pisces / 26°55 Libra

I think it is a borderline-case. But close enough to be pulled into.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 02, 2014 10:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Indigo wrote it somewhere here, I think based on talking to quite renowned astrologers.

Personally I feel the same, anything exceeding 1 degree feels like reaching to me. lol
However there might be exception in case of rolling declinations.


For example in my own natal I have:

Moon 11.05 S
Uranus 11.27 S
Pluto 11.40 N

and Juno 10.22 S.

Now the first three are definitely aligned. What about Juno though?
She IS within orb for parallel Moon, but would be out of orb for contraparallal Pluto (1°18).
However Moon IS in contraprallel to Pluto, so what to do about that?
Cutting off Juno?

Actually I think in this instance she is part of the whole, even if the orb is exceeding one degree.

Well the evivalent chart has

Pluto 29°24 Leo/ 00°35 Taurus
Juno 03°04 Pisces / 26°55 Libra

I think it is a borderline-case. But close enough to be pulled into.


I agree with this, the stellium will behave like a stellium, a Juno stellium actually defines Juno, so even if there's an added 1 deg., they will act in sync when participating in aspects.

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Ceridwen
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posted September 02, 2014 10:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also the Moon is pretty much on the midpoint of the outer ends Juno and Pluto, sort of holding it together. Probably Juno - Pluto will always manifesting through the Moon.

the midpoint would be at 11°01 and the Moon is just 4 minutes off it)

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Ceridwen
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posted September 02, 2014 11:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven`t found such beautiful names, but these are our clusters.


synastry
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(1)
his PoF 0.49 S
his EROS 1.27 N
his DESC 1.30 N

my PALLAS 1.35 N
my IC 1.58 N


(I think my hyp. APOLLON is on 2.15 N somewhere as well, which I find fits the Pallas here - too far off his PoF, for real. lol, But definitely in contact with EROS and DESC. Actually seeing that line up of his EROS and my PALLAS/Apollo made me think INSTANTLY on the very first time we ever met, how I was trying to somehow react/ connect intelectually, talking about astrology and some stuff, while he was busy sniffing my hair. Sky meets earth, I suppose. something like that. lol).

(2)

his UNION 4.41 N
his ATROPOS 4.38 S
his VESTA 5.30 S
his PALLAS 5.30 S

my UNION 4.37 N

(3)

his CERES 6.07 S

my PoF 6.14 S
my ZEUS 5.48 N

(4)

his Pluto 7.22 N
his AMOR 7.50 S

my BML 7.07 S

(5)
his Mars 9.56 N
his Jupiter 8.44 N
his h Poseidon 9.37 S

my Jupiter 8.28 S
my h Poseidon 8.44 S
my Chiron 8.33 N


(6)
his NN 10.59 N
his BML 11.49 N
his Priapus 11.08 S

my JUNO 10.22 S
my h Cupido 10.18 S
my Moon 11.05 S
my URanus 11.27 S
my Pluto 11.40 N


(7)
his BML 11.49 N
his LUST 12.40 S
his hCUPIDO 12.37 S

my Pluto 11.40 N
(my hAdmetos 13.01 N)


(8)
his PSYCHE 13.43 S
his Chiron 13.09 N
his hAdmetos 13.59 N

my PSYCHE 14.03 S
my CUPIDO 13.56 N
my hAdmetos 13.01 N


(9)
his VALENTINE 15.36 S

my AMOR 15.27 S
my ATROPOS 15.33 S
my ALMA 15.25 N
my Priapus 16.10 N

(10)
his Uranus 18.21 S
his Moon 18.56S
his h Hades 18.40 N

my VALENTINE 18.08 S
my H Hades 17.28 N


(11)
his Mercury 20.55 S
his Neptune 21.45 S
his Pholus 22.03 S

my Neptune 20.26 S
my Mars 21.13 S
my NN 21.58 S
my ASC 21.29 S
my Vertex 21.43 N
my Saturn 21.56 N
my Kronos 21.59 N (somehow fitting. lol)


(12)
his PHolus 22.02 S
his Venus 22.39 s
his h kronos 22.27 N
his h Vulkanus 23.06 N


my Vertex 21.43 N
my Saturn 21.56 N
my ASC 21.29 S
my NN 21.58 S
my VESTA 22.34 S
my my Sun 23.22 S
my h Vulkanus 23.16 N


(13)
his Sun 23.24 S
his MC 23.25 S
his CUPIDO 24.38 S
his h Vulkanus 23.06 N

my Sun 23.22 S
my Pholus 24.05 S
my Venus 24.06 S
my Mercury 24.38 S
my h Vulkanus 23.16 N

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Ceridwen
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posted September 02, 2014 11:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
composite
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(1)
Pholus 5.56 S
Pluto 6.0 S

h Zeus 5.01 N

(2)
AMOR 8.02 S
NN 8.06 S
CUPIDO 8.06 S
Mars 8.59 S
hPoseidon 9.10 S

(all conjunct as well)

(3)
VESTA 10.41 S
UNION 11.21 S
(h Cupido 12.28S)

Chrion 11.24 N
ATROPOS 11.31 N


(4)
hCupido 12.28S
PSYCHE 13.18S

Vertex 13.09 N
h Admetos 13.30 N
Saturn 14.13 N

(I suppose we are a little stubborn )


(5)
Uranus 15.33 S
PALLAS 15.48 S

EROS 16.14 N
Priapus 16.28N
IC 16.50 N


(6)
LUST 18.16 S
VALENTINE 18.40 S

ALMA 17.44 N
JUNO 18.20 N


(7)
(JUNO 18.20 N)
h Hades 19.04 N
DESC 19.47 N
BML 19.48 N

Valentine 18.40 S


(8)
Moon 21.29 S
Venus 22.28 S

hKronos 22.13 N


(9)
Jupiter 22.03 N
h Vulkanus 23.11 N

h Kronos 22.13 S
Venus 22.28 S
Neptune 22.37 S
Mercury 22.49 S
PoF 23.15 S
Sun 23.23 S


Leeloo, what names would you give these clusters?

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Ceridwen
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posted September 02, 2014 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw I love the myth of Admetos and Alkestis

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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 02, 2014 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
btw I love the myth of Admetos and Alkestis

Oh, my, yes, they must go to the Loyalty thread.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted September 02, 2014 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I haven`t found such beautiful names, but these are our clusters.


synastry
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(1)
his PoF 0.49 S
his EROS 1.27 N
his DESC 1.30 N

my PALLAS 1.35 N
my IC 1.58 N


(I think my hyp. APOLLON is on 2.15 N somewhere as well, which I find fits the Pallas here - too far off his PoF, for real. lol, But definitely in contact with EROS and DESC. Actually seeing that line up of his EROS and my PALLAS/Apollo made me think INSTANTLY on the very first time we ever met, how I was trying to somehow react/ connect intelectually, talking about astrology and some stuff, while he was busy sniffing my hair. Sky meets earth, I suppose. something like that. lol).


Sky meets earth...perhaps on of the best descriptions ever for what you describe


I'll play for you, Ceri

(2) New Fire

his UNION 4.41 N
his ATROPOS 4.38 S
his VESTA 5.30 S
his PALLAS 5.30 S

my UNION 4.37 N

(3) Serving the Goddess (reversed roles: Zeus is the "goddess")

his CERES 6.07 S

my PoF 6.14 S
my ZEUS 5.48 N

(4) A simple one: Wuthering Heights

his Pluto 7.22 N
his AMOR 7.50 S

my BML 7.07 S

(5) wow...a Power Couple
his Mars 9.56 N
his Jupiter 8.44 N
his h Poseidon 9.37 S

my Jupiter 8.28 S
my h Poseidon 8.44 S
my Chiron 8.33 N


(6) The Most Wanted Juno (he wants you)
his NN 10.59 N
his BML 11.49 N
his Priapus 11.08 S

my JUNO 10.22 S
my h Cupido 10.18 S
my Moon 11.05 S
my URanus 11.27 S
my Pluto 11.40 N


(7) The Lust
his BML 11.49 N
his LUST 12.40 S
his hCUPIDO 12.37 S

my Pluto 11.40 N
(my hAdmetos 13.01 N)


(8) Healing Wounds by everyday life
his PSYCHE 13.43 S
his Chiron 13.09 N
his hAdmetos 13.59 N

my PSYCHE 14.03 S
my CUPIDO 13.56 N
my hAdmetos 13.01 N


(9) Soul Change (for you)
his VALENTINE 15.36 S

my AMOR 15.27 S
my ATROPOS 15.33 S
my ALMA 15.25 N
my Priapus 16.10 N

(10) Lightning from the Depths
his Uranus 18.21 S
his Moon 18.56S
his h Hades 18.40 N

my VALENTINE 18.08 S
my H Hades 17.28 N


(11) Poetical Nirvana - a fated theme here
his Mercury 20.55 S
his Neptune 21.45 S
his Pholus 22.03 S

my Neptune 20.26 S
my Mars 21.13 S
my NN 21.58 S
my ASC 21.29 S
my Vertex 21.43 N
my Saturn 21.56 N
my Kronos 21.59 N (somehow fitting. lol)


(12) another fated theme, with lots of Fire. Vesta and Vulkanus are both keepers of the Flame. It's also about "crafting" the soul, i guess.
his PHolus 22.02 S
his Venus 22.39 s
his h kronos 22.27 N
his h Vulkanus 23.06 N


my Vertex 21.43 N
my Saturn 21.56 N
my ASC 21.29 S
my NN 21.58 S
my VESTA 22.34 S
my my Sun 23.22 S
my h Vulkanus 23.16 N


(13) He could change everything for you with your Pholus in this combo - I can't think of a name for this one Phoenix, maybe??
his Sun 23.24 S
his MC 23.25 S
his CUPIDO 24.38 S
his h Vulkanus 23.06 N

my Sun 23.22 S
my Pholus 24.05 S
my Venus 24.06 S
my Mercury 24.38 S
my h Vulkanus 23.16 N


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posted September 03, 2014 05:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The post disappeared ugh

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But what if you don't actually have an aspect between the two planets? And they only parallel each other?

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quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
extra potent if an aspect already in synastry is backed up by declinations.

Sounds logical enough

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It works. I saw it , but declination was exact. I couldn’t understand why a person acts like the Pluto. The aspect was only in declination.

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