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Gabby
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posted July 23, 2015 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Exactly that. Asteroid CUPIDO is the arrow of love, where our "honeymoon" phase feelings are, the butterflies in the stomach, and the spark of love. The Uranian is all devotion and commitment and karma and transtime/translife, which is totally different.

When checking synastry with someone, I'd rather go for the asteroid, to see if the sparks are even there to begin with. People are often way too quick to jump onto the "is this a soulmate lover?!" bandwagon with people they oftentimes haven't known more than a few months.


I couldn't agree more, I feel the asteroid is more acute and impulsive, while the uranian hold the deep sacred love of many lifetimes....but sometimes it's to deep to be understood or acknowledged unless properly aspected in a way that brings this depth to the surface.

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posted July 23, 2015 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heres some strange synastry....

His Psyche aries@20.09
His H40 Cupido-libra@21.35
His Eros cap@20.32

My Vertex aries@21.23/Anti-V libra@21.23
My Destin libra@21.26
My Venus libra@19.05
My Moira cap@20.13

What's it turn out to be?? Nothing...

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posted July 23, 2015 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I couldn't agree more, I feel the asteroid is more acute and impulsive, while the uranian hold the deep sacred love of many lifetimes....but sometimes it's to deep to be understood or acknowledged unless properly aspected in a way that brings this depth to the surface.

That's a great way to put it, and definitely applies in my case

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posted July 23, 2015 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 23, 2015 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CUPIDO (763) is almost a 'stand in' for EROS.

CUPIDO (h40) is transdimensional in nature, and often present in synastries of soul connexions and multidimensional relationships.

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posted July 24, 2015 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
CUPIDO (763) is almost a 'stand in' for EROS.

CUPIDO (h40) is transdimensional in nature, and often present in synastries of soul connexions and multidimensional relationships.


My ex hypothetical cupido opposes my Juno tightly and conjuncts my Tyche but his hypothetical cupido and mine conjunct by about 3 deg so hypothetical cupido moves so slowly that I feel it makes it more a generational thing perhaps like S is implying. What do you think about that?

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posted July 24, 2015 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's true that TNP-CUPIDO moves very, very slowly -- like all TNPs. However, I DO feel that they're meaningful when part of larger configurations. There's going to be a reason that they're present and involved.

So, for me, it's definitely a transdimensional link.

I think the JUNO opposite TNP-CUPIDO could indicate that a committed relationship between the two of you was an essential part of clearing karma and balancing debts.

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posted July 24, 2015 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my chart both Cupidos are conjunct in Scorpio they sit on asteroid Lilith, Kaali and Uranus all 0-3 degree.

To me this is much like my Valentine/Eros/IC conjunction just showing that I have a hard time seperating sexuality from deep love and commitment.

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posted July 24, 2015 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
In my chart both Cupidos are conjunct in Scorpio they sit on asteroid Lilith, Kaali and Uranus all 0-3 degree.

To me this is much like my Valentine/Eros/IC conjunction just showing that I have a hard time seperating sexuality from deep love and commitment.


That is quite interesting! Yes, I agree that could be a fine interpretation of it. Do you feel that you confuse sexual attraction for love? In other words, you have great sex and find yourself falling in love?

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posted July 24, 2015 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I currently am seeing someone where we have cupido conjunct AC/DC DW. My cupid is conjunct his AC (0deg) and sun (1deg) and his cupid is conjunct my DC, 0 deg.

I feel like this is going to be a short term relationship, esp after having looked at the first meeting chart and composite (lots of uranus happening), but I was curious about the synastry of cupido here.

In composite cupido is conjunct our mc, along with amor and valentine. But since this is a new relationship I don't know what effect that has yet. Public image of passion?

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posted July 24, 2015 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
h40 has prooved to be more accurate that the asteroid, although I still use both. (You never know.)

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posted July 24, 2015 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It's true that TNP-CUPIDO moves very, very slowly -- like all TNPs. However, I DO feel that they're meaningful when part of larger configurations. There's going to be a reason that they're present and involved.

So, for me, it's definitely a transdimensional link.

I think the JUNO opposite TNP-CUPIDO could indicate that a committed relationship between the two of you was an essential part of clearing karma and balancing debts.


Yes, they move slowly, but the personal planets don`t.

Of course I like the orbs with the TNPS to be rather tight.

Nevertheless I find it amusing that my TNP CUPIDO Is on the same degrees as my UNION. lol

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posted July 24, 2015 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
It's true that TNP-CUPIDO moves very, very slowly -- like all TNPs. However, I DO feel that they're meaningful when part of larger configurations. There's going to be a reason that they're present and involved.

So, for me, it's definitely a transdimensional link.

I think the JUNO opposite TNP-CUPIDO could indicate that a committed relationship between the two of you was an essential part of clearing karma and balancing debts.


I have this aspect with both my ex and my husband but with my husband is much tighter. What degrees do you use in synastry for TNP-CUPIDO?

Partner's TNP-CUPIDO is in scorpio @5d41
Partner's Eros is in scorpio @3d33
My Juno is in Taurus @5d25

Ex TNP-CUPIDO is in scorpio @6d57
Ex Mercury is in scorpio @5d57
My Juno is in Taurus @5d25

TNP-CUPIDO opposes my Juno a little over 1d with my ex but with my husband is almost exact.

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posted July 25, 2015 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, they move slowly, but the personal planets don`t.

Of course I like the orbs with the TNPS to be rather tight.

Nevertheless I find it amusing that my TNP CUPIDO Is on the same degrees as my UNION. lol


I agree. And, TNP-CUPIDO on your UNION makes perfect sense, given some of your experiences in that area. They are truly not just entirely of this world and its concrete experience.

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posted July 25, 2015 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It`s difficult to believe though. Really means a broadening of the horizon and preconceived opinions, and well possibly is being smiled upon or frowned upon from the rest of the world.
Maybe this is part of my very personal lesson though, putting faith in MY perception, (and striking a balance between the spiritual truth of it and possible delusion).
I mean I probably have my true BML and natural BML in Aquarius near the cusp of 3rd house in Aquarius for a reason, with the ruler Uranus on 1 Scorpio right on 11th house cusp with Cupido and Union there.

And with Draco Moon in Gemini, it does bring 3rd house issues to the fore once again (among other things).

I wonder though my Dejanira at the end of the 3rd house on 00 Aries, with Nessus in Gemini in 7th house, widely oposing my Sun-Mercury - is that why I feel I always have to defend my position or otherwise I become victimized and my thinking becomes manipulated (at least as subjective experience)?

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posted July 25, 2015 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That is quite interesting! Yes, I agree that could be a fine interpretation of it. Do you feel that you confuse sexual attraction for love? In other words, you have great sex and find yourself falling in love?

I don't have great sex unless I'm in love...it's hard to even turn me on if I'm not.

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posted July 25, 2015 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't have great sex unless I'm in love...it's hard to even turn me on if I'm not.

So, how are you confusing love and sex then, do you think?

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posted July 25, 2015 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LightandDarkWings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The beauty of astrology is the ability to find something new and discover a new part of yourself. Up until now, I had only known of 763. But 763 Cupid isn't as pronounced in my chart, as the now-discovered H40?

Ms. Auby, guess where my H40 is? Exactly conjunct 4th House Pluto, squaring my 7th House Venus. And all of a sudden, it illuminates a deeper meaning into that Pluto-Venus Square.

IE: Not only was it obsessive love(and being obessed with the concept of love itself) but also, the square(difficulty) in hence finding that love.

On a related note, you do recall that I spoke of a very special person right? That person in her ethereal beauty had attracted something in me that no one else could, and yet she had disappeared from my life.

In an orthodox fashion, I had "let her go" while at the same time, she was still there in the deepest corridor of my mind. Well, not too long ago(The 10th of this month actually), I had finally been able to contact this wonderful woman.(And suffice to say, she was shocked as I was.)

Turned out, she had crushed for someone else at the same time and didn't know what to do. In a way then, letting her go was the best decision I could have made. Especially since we're both so much alike.

We're both the type who'd rather take the lead than to sit back, and we even share the same type of BDSM fetishes. The only way our romance could ever shine through, was if I surrendered.

It kind of puts in perspective what Ms.Auby wrote about soulmates. How in essence, two souls are moving in seemingly opposite polarity only to inevitably meet with each other.

And I do believe she's right about one other thing: Those of us today, here in this time are here to teach others about love, and what it means to be in love.

Real Love, is a commitment. Real Love is a mutual sacrifice. Real Love is acknowledging there's someone(your significant other) whose greater than yourself and to whom you'll gladly give everything for.

Now to be sure that you're not a foolhardy martyr, the hope is that the other person is equally willing to make that mutual sacrifice. And when both sides are willing, that's when a deep and profound love is born.

That's the reason Love is so hard to attain. You're essentially looking for the one person who will make you break down all barriers, who will want to make you break them down. And sometimes, because that one person "hadn't appeared" yet, we go off course and try to plug someone else in there.

But Ms. Auby taught me this is the worst thing you can do. It's not only a betrayal of yourself, it's a betrayal of the person who you "plugged" into a place they were never meant to enter in the first place.


Perhaps there is indeed two, or maybe even three kinds of Souls for whom everyone can possibly relate to in such a powerful expression, but in my recent discovery I now find this to be false: The second or third soul is the person we "plugged" in. That person I was intensely and passionately going after, could very well have "fit" me in one area, if I was prepared to give up other areas of my life.

One such thing being my need for an intellectual partner. Someone to understand and feel me, for who I was. And I find that I really couldn't give that up. Nor could I give up the need for honesty in a relationship.

That "other" person was not my soulmate, and could never be my soulmate. She just happened to have a trait or two, that matched my soulmate. And that's no offense meant to her at all, it just is.

All of the things we "sacrifice" in love, are tangible. They are honestly things we can do without. I can do without control, for what's control if I'm not happy?

Similarly, money. I want a lot of money. But if I attained a lot of money and the love of my life happened to come from a lesser-off place than mine, I would still love her. The money thing in fact points to the old classic tale of Romeo-Juliet. How they longed to be together and reached for each other, regardless of how their families.

But there is one thing one must never ever give up in love. It's the way you can tell whether or not you're really in love, or if you're imprisoned: Your Soul. And I don't just mean physical imprisonment(though as we tragically know, that can be the case.)

I mean the imprisonment of your Soul, which almost certainly would have been the case if I had been foolish enough to chase someone who was not my soulmate. Are you a bookworm who loves reading? But your 'partner' hates reading and hence doesn't really want to read with you? Your Soul's being denied.

Not to say that there aren't differences, even with a Soulmate. But IMO, your Soulmate is the one who accepts those differences. You'll know when you find "the one" when quirks and all, he/she still laughs and smiles at you, complimenting you for it.

I know that if it had been the other way around, if my heart were lost and confused that Lady-sama would have waited for me. She did wait for me, while I engaged in the scavenger hunt of trying to find her.

And it's true, our form of love is probably not what most people would go for. Understandably so, if the lessons of love could've been taught any softer I'm sure we both would've liked it that way. But, this ended up being the path we took and I'm more than happy that we took it.

And that, in a single sentence is how I can affirm if one has found their soulmate or not: Who gives a damn, he/she's the one. For that person, you should be willing to go against the world, and confirming that he/she would do the same for you. Once you've confirmed that? Enjoy.

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posted July 25, 2015 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you and 'Lady-sama' are in contact once again, LADW?

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posted July 25, 2015 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LightandDarkWings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So, you and 'Lady-sama' are in contact once again, LADW?

Yes indeed, and I couldn't be happier. As you can imagine, a lot has changed over 10 years and there are some things to smooth over, but patience is a virtue that I've learned throughout this whole ordeal.

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posted July 30, 2015 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know how to interpret this A but Tesla and Plato conjunct my hypothetical cupido...


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posted July 31, 2015 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne what about Priapus opposite TNP-Cupido???

He has Priapus in Taurus @9d35
I have TNP-Cupido in Scorpio @9d32

So an exact opposition between Priapus and TNP-Cupido.

Could that be why I feel drawn to him like a magnet?

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posted September 07, 2015 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LightandDarkWings:

And that, in a single sentence is how I can affirm if one has found their soulmate or not: Who gives a damn, he/she's the one. For that person, you should be willing to go against the world, and confirming that he/she would do the same for you. Once you've confirmed that? Enjoy.


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posted September 07, 2015 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LightandDarkWings:
Yes indeed, and I couldn't be happier. As you can imagine, a lot has changed over 10 years and there are some things to smooth over, but patience is a virtue that I've learned throughout this whole ordeal.

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posted September 07, 2015 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen someone with Cupido(h40) conjunct his 12th house Venus, very deeply loving person!!

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