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hypatia238
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posted September 14, 2014 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Serious question do you pay attention to both Cupidos, or is one more significant than the other and if so why?


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posted September 14, 2014 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd rather use 763 CUPIDO than the hypothetical for synastry/composite, as well as for EROS/AMOR/CUPIDO love style analysis in the natal.

The hypothetical has a slightly different interpretation. Moreover, it moves at a snail pace, so is less practical as a synastric love marker.

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posted September 14, 2014 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer the Uranian. It's a kind of 'transdimensional VENUS' with a focus on commitment and marriage relations.

I've seen it surprisingly active in Soulmate synastry, and those where the individuals have a 'history' throughout various incarnations or timelines.

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posted September 14, 2014 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I prefer the Uranian. It's a kind of 'transdimensional VENUS' with a focus on commitment and marriage relations.

I've seen it surprisingly active in Soulmate synastry, and those where the individuals have a 'history' throughout various incarnations or timelines.


I Like how you put it "transdimensional venus"; interesting! You feel the hypothetical is more telling about past life karma? I have H40 in scorp in the 11th square nessus in the 8th by less than one orb, it also squares hylonome in the 8th under 3 orbs.

Thank you both; both inputs are very helpful. I would say both cupidos are significant then.

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I could see at least on a natal level how both cupidos tell a story about me.

Chiron at the apex inconjuncts asteriod cupido on one side and saturn in the other which could represent pain around not been able to be with who I truly want.

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posted September 15, 2014 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While they're both referring to Cupido, the Uranians have a specific meaning for the "hypothetical" planets in tune with their doctrine. We discussed the Uranian planets here
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000883.html


and asteroid Cupido here
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000644-2.html

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posted September 15, 2014 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I prefer the Uranian. It's a kind of 'transdimensional VENUS' with a focus on commitment and marriage relations.

I've seen it surprisingly active in Soulmate synastry, and those where the individuals have a 'history' throughout various incarnations or timelines.


What do you think hylonome conjunct nessus in the 8th squaring H40 could mean? H40 based on description of Leeloo represents a karmic soulmate relationship of many lifetimes.

H40 squaring hylonome conjunct nessus in the 8th kind of scares me. I would love it if you help me brain storm this bc I am too close to it. I am thinking:

1. I sacrificed myself by enduring a violent death to save and protect a karmic soulmate.

2. My soulmate was killed violently and then I killed myself.

3. We both died a violent death for defending some social ideals. (H40 in the 11th).

It could also mean having a marriage partner who takes advantage of me financially and I sacrifice myself in this sense and willingly let him?

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posted September 16, 2014 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What do you think hylonome conjunct nessus in the 8th squaring H40 could mean? H40 based on description of Leeloo represents a karmic soulmate relationship of many lifetimes.

H40 squaring hylonome conjunct nessus in the 8th kind of scares me. I would love it if you help me brain storm this bc I am too close to it. I am thinking:

1. I sacrificed myself by enduring a violent death to save and protect a karmic soulmate.

2. My soulmate was killed violently and then I killed myself.

3. We both died a violent death for defending some social ideals. (H40 in the 11th).

It could also mean having a marriage partner who takes advantage of me financially and I sacrifice myself in this sense and willingly let him?


I think those are all very likely scenarios. And the author of the Uranians in a transdimensional context is actually from Ernesto on his website: http://eastrologer.net/uranian-astrology. Quite fascinating, actually. The 'transdimensional' context is what hooked me. I studied the Uranians before, many years ago. I DO feel a very multiversal flavour to it.

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posted September 16, 2014 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I think those are all very likely scenarios. And the author of the Uranians in a transdimensional context is actually from Ernesto on his website: http://eastrologer.net/uranian-astrology. Quite fascinating, actually. The 'transdimensional' context is what hooked me. I studied the Uranians before, many years ago. I DO feel a very multiversal flavour to it.

Intresting read.

Still not totally convinced about using purely hypotethical objects in astrology, but if I did, this article would be a great source.

Interestingly I just realized that in the heliocentric chart my CUPIDO is exactly conjunct Uranus on 28 Libra, and I sort of like the Sabian

"Mankind's Vast And Enduring Effort To Reach For Knowledge Transferable From Generation To Generation"


In the geocentric chart CUPIDO (of course I am talking about he Uranian planet) is exactly conjunct UNION and hypothetical PROSERPINA on 29 Libra

"Three Mounds Of Knowledge On A Philosopher's Head"


Despite my concerns and reservations I find myself feeling intrigued. lol

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posted September 16, 2014 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Intresting read.

Still not totally convinced about using purely hypotethical objects in astrology, but if I did, this article would be a great source.

Interestingly I just realized that in the heliocentric chart my CUPIDO is exactly conjunct Uranus on 28 Libra, and I sort of like the Sabian

"Mankind's Vast And Enduring Effort To Reach For Knowledge Transferable From Generation To Generation"


In the geocentric chart CUPIDO (of course I am talking about he Uranian planet) is exactly conjunct UNION and hypothetical PROSERPINA on 29 Libra

"Three Mounds Of Knowledge On A Philosopher's Head"


Despite my concerns and reservations I find myself feeling intrigued. lol


LOL haha

I have to say both Sabians fit you really well. I picture you as a professor that teaches greek literature you know!

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posted September 16, 2014 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I think those are all very likely scenarios. And the author of the Uranians in a transdimensional context is actually from Ernesto on his website: http://eastrologer.net/uranian-astrology. Quite fascinating, actually. The 'transdimensional' context is what hooked me. I studied the Uranians before, many years ago. I DO feel a very multiversal flavour to it.

I know LeeLoo started a great thread on Uranian-astrology but I WOULD love it if you start your own Uranian-Astrology thread with your views on it; similar to hers but with your thoughts when you have time ofcourse.

I will check out this link as soon as I can and comment on it. Thanks a lot!

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posted September 16, 2014 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Choose the one that is better aspected

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posted September 16, 2014 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Choose the one that is better aspected


LOL hahahahhahahahahaha

Like how you think!

They are both kind of screwed though in my case.

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posted September 16, 2014 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I know LeeLoo started a great thread on Uranian-astrology but I WOULD love it if you start your own Uranian-Astrology thread with your views on it; similar to hers but with your thoughts when you have time ofcourse.

I will check out this link as soon as I can and comment on it. Thanks a lot!


My views are mostly their views, from the same website, with a little bit of personal interpretation I haven't worked a lot with Uranian objects.

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posted September 16, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
My views are mostly their views, from the same website, with a little bit of personal interpretation I haven't worked a lot with Uranian objects.


I figured that but I know that Aubyanne has a special affinity and interest for Anything transdimensional; like if I was going to ask a question about parallel lives I would be curious what she had to say. Also when it comes to dark astrology I value her input a lot bc I know she looks into that stuff more in depth; that is the impression I have gotten.

Even though I know the views on uranian-astrology are similar she will also have her own special flavor and additional input that I am curious about.


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posted September 16, 2014 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I prefer the Uranian. It's a kind of 'transdimensional VENUS' with a focus on commitment and marriage relations.

I've seen it surprisingly active in Soulmate synastry, and those where the individuals have a 'history' throughout various incarnations or timelines.


Exactly that. Asteroid CUPIDO is the arrow of love, where our "honeymoon" phase feelings are, the butterflies in the stomach, and the spark of love. The Uranian is all devotion and commitment and karma and transtime/translife, which is totally different.

When checking synastry with someone, I'd rather go for the asteroid, to see if the sparks are even there to begin with. People are often way too quick to jump onto the "is this a soulmate lover?!" bandwagon with people they oftentimes haven't known more than a few months.

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posted September 16, 2014 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Exactly that. Asteroid CUPIDO is the arrow of love, where our "honeymoon" phase feelings are, the butterflies in the stomach, and the spark of love. The Uranian is all devotion and commitment and karma and transtime/translife, which is totally different.

When checking synastry with someone, I'd rather go for the asteroid, to see if the sparks are even there to begin with. People are often way too quick to jump onto the "is this a soulmate lover?!" bandwagon with people they oftentimes haven't known more than a few months.



Omg, thanks a lot. That makes a lot of sense. How you put it really cleared this up for me and really resonates.

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posted September 16, 2014 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if Cupidos are exactly opposite in a composite?

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posted September 17, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What if Cupidos are exactly opposite in a composite?


haha good question...does it form a tsquare with something?

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posted September 17, 2014 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.amazon.com/The-Language-Of-Uranian-Astrology/dp/089159003X

Wow an uranian astrology book that costs $447.

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posted July 23, 2015 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bbbump...

Moooorrree.


I'm sad about our Mercury square Saturn/Uranus...

Then I realized my Cupido (asteroid) is on his Mercury and his Cupido (asteroid) is on my Saturn/Uranus...

Also his TransNeptunian Cupido is on MY Mercury and mine is conjunct my Sun on his Psyche.

That's hopeful methinks--or at least explains how we didn't see the communication issues right away (convenient!).

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Hmm, I have an exact (by 4 minutes) h40 Cupido in the 12th conjunct my NN, with my soulfriend / bandmate. And mine is exactly (by 2 minutes) on his Mercury.

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posted July 23, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And then there's this
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000973.html

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posted July 23, 2015 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So we've Psyche-Cupido in synastry and Psyche opposition Eros in composite. I like that very much. certainly there are challenges but, well, let's see how we do with them

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posted July 23, 2015 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like this thread too...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014194.html

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posted July 23, 2015 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
While they're both referring to Cupido, the Uranians have a specific meaning for the "hypothetical" planets in tune with their doctrine. We discussed the Uranian planets here
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000883.html


and asteroid Cupido here
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000644-2.html


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