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Topic: H40 or 763: Which Cupido is more important ??
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 14, 2014 09:26 PM
Serious question do you pay attention to both Cupidos, or is one more significant than the other and if so why?
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Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted September 14, 2014 09:33 PM
I'd rather use 763 CUPIDO than the hypothetical for synastry/composite, as well as for EROS/AMOR/CUPIDO love style analysis in the natal.The hypothetical has a slightly different interpretation. Moreover, it moves at a snail pace, so is less practical as a synastric love marker. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5531 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 14, 2014 09:37 PM
I prefer the Uranian. It's a kind of 'transdimensional VENUS' with a focus on commitment and marriage relations.I've seen it surprisingly active in Soulmate synastry, and those where the individuals have a 'history' throughout various incarnations or timelines. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 14, 2014 10:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I prefer the Uranian. It's a kind of 'transdimensional VENUS' with a focus on commitment and marriage relations.I've seen it surprisingly active in Soulmate synastry, and those where the individuals have a 'history' throughout various incarnations or timelines.
I Like how you put it "transdimensional venus"; interesting! You feel the hypothetical is more telling about past life karma? I have H40 in scorp in the 11th square nessus in the 8th by less than one orb, it also squares hylonome in the 8th under 3 orbs. Thank you both; both inputs are very helpful. I would say both cupidos are significant then. ADD: I could see at least on a natal level how both cupidos tell a story about me. Chiron at the apex inconjuncts asteriod cupido on one side and saturn in the other which could represent pain around not been able to be with who I truly want. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16457 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 15, 2014 06:26 AM
While they're both referring to Cupido, the Uranians have a specific meaning for the "hypothetical" planets in tune with their doctrine. We discussed the Uranian planets here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000883.html and asteroid Cupido here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000644-2.html
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 15, 2014 10:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I prefer the Uranian. It's a kind of 'transdimensional VENUS' with a focus on commitment and marriage relations.I've seen it surprisingly active in Soulmate synastry, and those where the individuals have a 'history' throughout various incarnations or timelines.
What do you think hylonome conjunct nessus in the 8th squaring H40 could mean? H40 based on description of Leeloo represents a karmic soulmate relationship of many lifetimes. H40 squaring hylonome conjunct nessus in the 8th kind of scares me. I would love it if you help me brain storm this bc I am too close to it. I am thinking: 1. I sacrificed myself by enduring a violent death to save and protect a karmic soulmate. 2. My soulmate was killed violently and then I killed myself. 3. We both died a violent death for defending some social ideals. (H40 in the 11th). It could also mean having a marriage partner who takes advantage of me financially and I sacrifice myself in this sense and willingly let him? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 5531 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 12:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: What do you think hylonome conjunct nessus in the 8th squaring H40 could mean? H40 based on description of Leeloo represents a karmic soulmate relationship of many lifetimes.H40 squaring hylonome conjunct nessus in the 8th kind of scares me. I would love it if you help me brain storm this bc I am too close to it. I am thinking: 1. I sacrificed myself by enduring a violent death to save and protect a karmic soulmate. 2. My soulmate was killed violently and then I killed myself. 3. We both died a violent death for defending some social ideals. (H40 in the 11th). It could also mean having a marriage partner who takes advantage of me financially and I sacrifice myself in this sense and willingly let him?
I think those are all very likely scenarios. And the author of the Uranians in a transdimensional context is actually from Ernesto on his website: http://eastrologer.net/uranian-astrology. Quite fascinating, actually. The 'transdimensional' context is what hooked me. I studied the Uranians before, many years ago. I DO feel a very multiversal flavour to it. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 22221 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 16, 2014 07:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I think those are all very likely scenarios. And the author of the Uranians in a transdimensional context is actually from Ernesto on his website: http://eastrologer.net/uranian-astrology. Quite fascinating, actually. The 'transdimensional' context is what hooked me. I studied the Uranians before, many years ago. I DO feel a very multiversal flavour to it.
Intresting read. Still not totally convinced about using purely hypotethical objects in astrology, but if I did, this article would be a great source.  Interestingly I just realized that in the heliocentric chart my CUPIDO is exactly conjunct Uranus on 28 Libra, and I sort of like the Sabian "Mankind's Vast And Enduring Effort To Reach For Knowledge Transferable From Generation To Generation" In the geocentric chart CUPIDO (of course I am talking about he Uranian planet) is exactly conjunct UNION and hypothetical PROSERPINA on 29 Libra
"Three Mounds Of Knowledge On A Philosopher's Head" Despite my concerns and reservations I find myself feeling intrigued. lol
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 11:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Intresting read. Still not totally convinced about using purely hypotethical objects in astrology, but if I did, this article would be a great source.  Interestingly I just realized that in the heliocentric chart my CUPIDO is exactly conjunct Uranus on 28 Libra, and I sort of like the Sabian "Mankind's Vast And Enduring Effort To Reach For Knowledge Transferable From Generation To Generation" In the geocentric chart CUPIDO (of course I am talking about he Uranian planet) is exactly conjunct UNION and hypothetical PROSERPINA on 29 Libra
"Three Mounds Of Knowledge On A Philosopher's Head" Despite my concerns and reservations I find myself feeling intrigued. lol
LOL haha I have to say both Sabians fit you really well. I picture you as a professor that teaches greek literature you know! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 11:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I think those are all very likely scenarios. And the author of the Uranians in a transdimensional context is actually from Ernesto on his website: http://eastrologer.net/uranian-astrology. Quite fascinating, actually. The 'transdimensional' context is what hooked me. I studied the Uranians before, many years ago. I DO feel a very multiversal flavour to it.
I know LeeLoo started a great thread on Uranian-astrology but I WOULD love it if you start your own Uranian-Astrology thread with your views on it; similar to hers but with your thoughts when you have time ofcourse. I will check out this link as soon as I can and comment on it. Thanks a lot! IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 16, 2014 11:51 AM
Choose the one that is better aspected  ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 12:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Choose the one that is better aspected 
LOL hahahahhahahahahaha Like how you think!  They are both kind of screwed though in my case. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 16457 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 01:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I know LeeLoo started a great thread on Uranian-astrology but I WOULD love it if you start your own Uranian-Astrology thread with your views on it; similar to hers but with your thoughts when you have time ofcourse.I will check out this link as soon as I can and comment on it. Thanks a lot!
My views are mostly their views, from the same website, with a little bit of personal interpretation I haven't worked a lot with Uranian objects. ------------------
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 04:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: My views are mostly their views, from the same website, with a little bit of personal interpretation I haven't worked a lot with Uranian objects.
I figured that but I know that Aubyanne has a special affinity and interest for Anything transdimensional; like if I was going to ask a question about parallel lives I would be curious what she had to say. Also when it comes to dark astrology I value her input a lot bc I know she looks into that stuff more in depth; that is the impression I have gotten. Even though I know the views on uranian-astrology are similar she will also have her own special flavor and additional input that I am curious about. Each of you have your strengths and I learn from all of you.
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Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted September 16, 2014 04:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I prefer the Uranian. It's a kind of 'transdimensional VENUS' with a focus on commitment and marriage relations.I've seen it surprisingly active in Soulmate synastry, and those where the individuals have a 'history' throughout various incarnations or timelines.
Exactly that. Asteroid CUPIDO is the arrow of love, where our "honeymoon" phase feelings are, the butterflies in the stomach, and the spark of love. The Uranian is all devotion and commitment and karma and transtime/translife, which is totally different. When checking synastry with someone, I'd rather go for the asteroid, to see if the sparks are even there to begin with. People are often way too quick to jump onto the "is this a soulmate lover?!" bandwagon with people they oftentimes haven't known more than a few months. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 16, 2014 05:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Blind writer: Exactly that. Asteroid CUPIDO is the arrow of love, where our "honeymoon" phase feelings are, the butterflies in the stomach, and the spark of love. The Uranian is all devotion and commitment and karma and transtime/translife, which is totally different.When checking synastry with someone, I'd rather go for the asteroid, to see if the sparks are even there to begin with. People are often way too quick to jump onto the "is this a soulmate lover?!" bandwagon with people they oftentimes haven't known more than a few months.
Omg, thanks a lot. That makes a lot of sense. How you put it really cleared this up for me and really resonates.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 16, 2014 06:11 PM
What if Cupidos are exactly opposite in a composite?------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 02:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: What if Cupidos are exactly opposite in a composite?
haha good question...does it form a tsquare with something?
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2047 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 17, 2014 02:46 PM
http://www.amazon.com/The-Language-Of-Uranian-Astrology/dp/089159003X Wow an uranian astrology book that costs $447. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 746 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 23, 2015 05:53 PM
bbbump...Moooorrree. I'm sad about our Mercury square Saturn/Uranus...
Then I realized my Cupido (asteroid) is on his Mercury and his Cupido (asteroid) is on my Saturn/Uranus... Also his TransNeptunian Cupido is on MY Mercury and mine is conjunct my Sun on his Psyche. That's hopeful methinks--or at least explains how we didn't see the communication issues right away (convenient!). IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 804 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 23, 2015 06:07 PM
Hmm, I have an exact (by 4 minutes) h40 Cupido in the 12th conjunct my NN, with my soulfriend / bandmate. And mine is exactly (by 2 minutes) on his Mercury.
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yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 746 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 23, 2015 06:11 PM
And then there's this http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000973.html IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 746 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 23, 2015 06:18 PM
So we've Psyche-Cupido in synastry and Psyche opposition Eros in composite. I like that very much. certainly there are challenges but, well, let's see how we do with them  IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 746 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 23, 2015 06:26 PM
I like this thread too... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014194.html
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8198 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 23, 2015 06:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: While they're both referring to Cupido, the Uranians have a specific meaning for the "hypothetical" planets in tune with their doctrine. We discussed the Uranian planets here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000883.html and asteroid Cupido here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000644-2.html
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