posted September 16, 2014 03:25 PM            

Interestingly our Draconic composite is 10 Cancer.

posted September 16, 2014 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, I don`t believe it takes time for a composite to take effect. Once the people meet, it`s in play. No need to adjust Moons to each other, their c-Moon simply portrays their shared emotional vibe.

As for my parents they met in a discotheque, got together pretty quickly, and pretty much from the first day my dad was like an integral part of my mom`s family as well.

I do think though that they might be more outgoing and social nowadays, which is largely due to my mom`s efforts. My Dad is very charming and can talk to just anyone and entertain them, but he wouldn´t go out that much on his own, unless for social purproses (like workrelated meetings or for charity and the like).

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I misunderstood their Moon, BTW - I edited in the post above. So you think the composite needs no time to come into play, it doesn't show what happens when they become a couple?

But you do say that your Davison reflects the way you met, you and Mr Sag, right?

posted September 16, 2014 03:29 PM            

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In fact, I'm gonna list the translation of my planets from one chart to the other.

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posted September 16, 2014 03:37 PM            

Ceri, no matter the sequence, if there is any, it needs to be determined (perhaps it isn't) I look at Davison as the outward manifestation and a predictor of events, like a story, I will show you with your charts. I also think we should look at both of them in order to determine the possible evolution and manifestation of an aspect.

posted September 16, 2014 03:43 PM            

Composite

Davison

posted September 16, 2014 03:44 PM            

Both actually were reflected in the first meeting.

Interestingly last november, when we talked to each other, which somehow changed things a bit as it feels, there was a Tr Saturn-Karma-conjunction on 16 and 17 Scorpio. with Tr Venus on 16 Capricorn.

This seems to have been more pertaining to the composite.

Tr Saturn conjunct composite MC by 19 minutes of arc
Tr Karma conjunct composite MC by 30 minutes of arc
Tr Venus conjunct composite Venus by 26 minutes of arc, and hence activating the Venus-Pluto-square

If I check the Davison there was still some stuff going on, just not as exactly

Tr Saturn conjunct MCX 2°30
Tr Karma conjunct MC 1°41

Tr Venus conjunct ASC 2°45
Tr Venus conjunct Karma 1°32

I think it both is pretty strong, though I find it interesting that Tr Uranus has just moved into exact opposition to composite Pluto and squaring composite Venus, with the next ecclipses triggering these degrees as well.
Of course the Davison has Karma near enough.

The first time he approached me during a show, we had

pr compospite Sun 1.21 Aquarius
composite ASC 1.22 Aquarius
- thre could noth ave been a clearer image of something becoming illuminated, visible

but to make matters complicated there was a lot going on in Davison as well. lol

pr Moon conjunct Davison Vertex-Isis-Osiris in 7th house for once.

and

pr Venus conjunct Davison Pluto

pr Jupiter conjunct Davison Mars

however there was nothing on the angles like in composite.

posted September 16, 2014 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Thanks, Lee. My Davison is boring when it comes to patterns but if placements can really be exchanged between these charts then there will be some action.

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They must be exchanged somehow, they should tell the same story in the end. It's like the same profile from two different points of you: lets' say for now:

one of the union, composed and unifying energies, the core, the "under the surface", the actual union
(Composite)

the other existing in time and space, in the world, like a "character" from a movie: the story of Bonnie and Clyde, or a Romeo and Juliet scenario etc. This is probably what the viewers perceive and it's at least one stage in the couples evolution in the world (in space and time).

However, they are both interconnected, they both reflect the joined energies, the Davison is not a mere persona, a facade, a mask.

posted September 16, 2014 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Lee, I like your composite more. We only have to draw some aspects to your Venus

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Don't worry about my Venus, thank you very much, she's making a Yod with Sun and Chiron and the result is the relationship itself.

I'm surprised you don't like my Davison, despite the wide squares, it's an Ice Cream Box, also pointing to Venus

posted September 16, 2014 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
And not to forget, it's also conjunct the ASC!

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Yep. They're all trying to convince me my Venus is peregrine but who can ask for more than a Venus conjunct ASC?

posted September 16, 2014 04:15 PM            

(Proserpina and Cupido are hypothetical)

posted September 16, 2014 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ok, there is a conjunction but it's not as beneficial as it would be from the 1st house
Taurus Venus is nice but the house is ****** , Pisces Moon is too fragile for this world and it squares the Sun, etc.

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It is in the 1st house, Caps, it's 1,40 deg from the ASC, coming from the 12th.
You don't like a 10 house Moon conjunct Jupiter in Pisces? What can be happier than that? And thank god it squares the Sun, I have Sun/Moon DW in synastry.
Why is the 11th a ****** house?
It's a house of unconditional love and love returned: Venus rules the 5th and it is in the 11th, it has a mutual reception by house with Uranus (traditional 11ht ruler) in the 5th it suggests love given and received - not to mention the closest conjunction to the Composite/Davison Sun is Anteros- together with the perfect sextile to Juno and Jupiter and Mercury, IC ruler, it's a very beneficial Venus. It sits right on my natal IC, opp his natal Moon.

The more difficult placement of this chart is Saturn near ASC.

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posted September 16, 2014 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
See, that's what I never understand. Because, when you look at the chart as an actual map of the heavens, a Venus position such as LeeLoo's would mean a Venus that has just risen above the horizon. A very beautiful sight! How can something so beautiful possibly be a bad thing?

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posted September 16, 2014 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You take my opinions too seriously

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You know I always do
Did you correct your Davison?
No, you didn't. You have similar angles. A very steady girl. Wow...your Davison is super interesting. I'll study it

EDIT: C'mon , Cappy, it's the house of Twinflames (now you're gonna hate it for good)

posted September 16, 2014 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Glad to hear Say hello to Petrus or whoever you might meet up there!

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I'll ask him to lend us the Key for a while.

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posted September 16, 2014 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You know I always do
Did you correct your Davison?
No, you didn't. You have similar angles. A very steady girl. Wow...your Davison is super interesting. I'll study it

EDIT: C'mon , Cappy, it's the house of Twinflames (now you're gonna hate it for good)

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Edit: lol, never mind. I misread you.

Yep, I hate it even more

posted September 16, 2014 04:47 PM            

The focus of the Davison chart seems to move from the 1st to the 3rd house, however Neptune, 6th ruler, remains highlighted. Moon/Pluto is the focus in the Composite.

posted September 17, 2014 10:27 AM            

Ceri, I've been thinking and my assumption that there must be a time sequence between Composite and Davison is a bit absurd. There's no reason for that, I'm pretty sure they act in sync, with an interchange between the two, with Davison being more filmic and event-oriented and the Composite being the underlying shared energy at all times. After all, both charts start at the same time, the first connection. I'm not sure however if the composite comes into play right from the beginning, I mean the energy will be in the air, but in order for the two to acknowledge their common Moon for instance, they need to interact for some time. For example, my composite Moon is Libra, the result of Scorpio and Leo. Right from the start, the mutual desire for harmony, beauty in the relationship, compromise, middleground, marital interaction etc this Moon brings was felt from the start, but for the actual Moon to be born, be fully acknowledged and become operational, regular interaction is needed. I still ponder on this though.