posted September 21, 2014 05:42 PM            

Hi guys
Been thinking a lot about this in relation to the all too common celebrity crush..
In the past few years I've developed a deep fascination with Prince Harry and I've slowly moved from being dismissive and embarrassed about it - I am twenty-freakin-seven!- to growing really curious as to whether there's an actual explanation for this.
So as a good little astro-pupil I drew up our synastry (well astro.com did that for me) and sure enough, things started to click. (I will admit I wanted to come here at first and ask you guys "why the hell am i feeling this way???" but decided to be less of a freeloader instead, lol so I did my research.)
I'm putting up the chart below and will come back to it.
Thing is, I'm really starting to wonder if what is so commonly dismissed as silly fangirling is really just good astrological compatibility, and whether this can lead to REAL feelings.
I am a grown ass, rational woman and I am actually feeling for this guy what I can only describe as a soul calling.

What's your experience with this? Have you ever felt in love with a celebrity, or felt like if you were both normal people and your worlds interacted, you could both fall in love? Have you checked your synastry with them? Can we really be victims of the stars to this extent?

Here is our synastry

The overwhelming feeling of affection? I blame Sun conjunct Venus.
The fact that he seems to me the ideal man and he affects me so much? His Sun is in my first house. Mine is in his 8th.
That nagging voice that says we could totally "get" and support each other emotionally? (I call it the "us against the world" syndrome) My Moon in his first house. Trining moons. Trining Ascendants.
The fantasies? Mars conjunct Uranus in Sag, Eros conjunct Psyche.

There are other supportive aspects as well but I don't wanna bore you to death If you do see something of significance which I have missed, or if you think I'm totally misreading this, do help a sister out

posted September 21, 2014 06:15 PM              

"About celeb crush synastry, my view could be summarized a bit as follows: synastries with celebrities always look very good because out of hundreds of faces at our disposal (magazines, movies, TV etc) we get to chose, for our own fantasy life, the ones who push our astrology buttons, so to speak, the ones completing our charts. There are plenty of choices, of course you'll be attracted to the one fulfilling some sort of ideal for you. But that person is a collective icon, an idol, it has a symbolic value. Michael Bolton has millions of perfect synastries with his millions of fans from several generations, I suppose. This doesn't change the fact that the synastry is, of course, not active, because a synastry works both ways and he has no idea you exist, you do nothing for him ( no orgasms lol - unless he gets off from knowing he has millions of fans, which he probably does). That's why the synastry of celeb crushes is actually the synastry of an idol and his fandom. The job of celebrities is to embody some sort of collective ideal, it's not random that they became famous, they do have this potential and that's what they are to the unknown people who are their fans.
Some celebs, because of what they inspire, can even change the life of their fans and have a powerful impact, like in your example and some examples are even scary in this respect, and they really do impact many generations of people, but this is an unilateral impact, having an idol, a model is part of human nature, but this has nothing to do with the principle of synastry, which is the map of an existing or potential relationship, the idol stuff is a different phenomenon, IMO, that's why the synastry between a fan and their celeb crush is almost always so very good. "

This is the thread, it you want to check out the entire conversation:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000970.html

posted September 21, 2014 07:06 PM            

Let's see how he affects you.

Nothing in your primary romance houses but he puts Mercury into your secondary 7th house and the Sun into your secondary 8th house. 5th house ruler conjunct his Uranus (ulala) and square Mercury. Romantic mode on. His Uranus also touches your IC so he electrifies not only your lady parts. The current runs right to your heart and it feels out of control. 7th house ruler conjunct his Jupiter and on top of that your Jupiter is in your 7th which matches your profile. I believe it's one of the aspects generating your affection along with Sun-Venus and Moon-Venus. Add to this the Mercury trine which is his 5th and 8th house ruler btw and it's no wonder you long to be with him. Your 8th house ruler square his Pluto contributes and Mars conjunct Uranus to strong sexual attraction. I believe Psyche-Eros helps too. Your Uranus sextile his Venus. Your another person I see with their Uranus aspecting celeb's Venus. Maybe we have a trend here. His Sag Mars in the 4th square your Jupiter-DSC and it's your IC ruler too and I have it too. I think this is a very stimulating configuration for you. His MC appeals to your Venus (perfect aspect for a celeb synastry ). You like that he's naughty, don't you? His 10th house Uranus attracts your Aqua Mars' attention. Your Capricorn 5th house digs his 10th house Saturn and Capricorn ASC. Ok, enough for now. I will probably add something later.

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And I do think that if given the chance to meet these people, they would feel some of this stuff too. Maybe then the synastry would be activated, as you say.

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Now go do a synastry with not only Psyche and Eros but also Vertex, Ceres, Amor, Juno, Alma, Moira, Pholus, h22 (Priapus) and his name asteroid!

posted September 21, 2014 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Octobie:
And I'm speaking also of those cases where you are actually in a happy relationship but that person still calls to you.

Seriously, maybe there's something there..

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posted September 22, 2014 12:44 AM            

Thing is though, with a guy like Prince Harry there are millions of other girls out there who probably have a bit of a crush on him. And for every one of those girls there is probably an astrological reason as to why they do. I think it's important to put such crushes in perspective. Just because some famous person has good synastry with us, and we find them attractive due to this synastry, does not mean there's anything significant to the connection. What I mean is, It's very unlikely that the celeb is our 'destined soulmate' or any such silly thing.

posted September 22, 2014 01:03 AM            

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Can good synastry with your celebrity crush lead to *actual* feelings?

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Of course. Anyone can fall in love with anyone. Whether your paths are meant to cross is another issue. Synastry (and many other influences) are at work every day with everyone we meet, from shop assistants to people who walk past you in the street etc.
It's not more or less likely that Prince Harry would fall in love with you - then any other guy who you would have similar aspects with. His status is entirely irrelevant.

We're all people...
Glorifying celebrities is mostly done by those who are very status-conscious. Status is pretty meaningless though, in reality.

However.. I strongly feel that - the people you are meant to have relationships with will materialise in your life. Or alternatively, if you are the one to initiate contact with them - they will choose to *stay* in your life.
So, for instance - they won't just disappear after you lock eyes at a party.

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Prince Harry there are millions of other girls out there who probably have a bit of a crush on him

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posted September 22, 2014 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by iliketurtles:
an attraction to a celeb i think tells you more about yourself than what kind connection you may have with them

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posted September 22, 2014 04:35 AM            

I think she is asking whether compatible synastry could play out with a celebrity - and of course it could, because they are just another person.
The problem is you're unlikely to meet them and get close enough to get to know each other - and see the composite/synastry play out.

posted September 22, 2014 04:52 AM            

Guys, I do wanna clear one thing up - I do not think Prince Harry is my soul mate! I actually don't believe in soulmates at all. I think there are millions of people in the world who could make us happy or just click different sets of right buttons (and vice-versa), the thing is we don't get the chance to meet 99.99% of them.
And for me, feeling this way about a famous person is no different than crushing on the boy in Class B, or a workmate, or the new guy in your gang. The only difference is that we will never have a chance to explore it with them, as opposed to those other "real" people. Celebrities are real people as well, it's just that our worlds will never interact, so it's just the cruel stars dangling that perfectly delicious synastry in your face

Feeling this way doesn't prevent me from having real life relationships, nor does it have me moping around London like a lost puppy, what it does (and I'm a bit frustrated that I cannot turn it off) is have me imagining the possibilities every now and then *daydreaming*
The truth is, if Harry was just an army guy and we would meet while I was picking up my brother at the airport, nobody would bat an eyelash over the two of us getting together.

posted September 22, 2014 05:58 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Now go do a synastry with not only Psyche and Eros but also Vertex, Ceres, Amor, Juno, Alma, Moira, Pholus, h22 (Priapus) and his name asteroid!

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posted September 22, 2014 06:13 AM            

But, joking aside, on an intellectual level, of course I understand where millions of girls and women draw the attraction from. Apart from the "a billion pounds and a princely title", we also have the double impact of: direct heir to the most famous family in the entire world, thanks to a cruel and abusive legacy of world-wide colonialism & younger son of the possibly most heavily publicly tragically romanticised figure of the past 50 years. And all that with an approachable charm, rare phenotype, stereotypically masculine pursuits and being single.

I'm sorry if this comes off as being overly cynical , but what you have to keep in mind is that the royal family, any royal family, is, and always has been, all about PR. Every detail of this young man's life and his public image is meticulously planned in a cabinet to be appealing, particularly to young women such as yourself. You are the core target audience. You're being sold an image, and much like many others, you bought it. This kid's life is dictated through and through, you have no idea who he really is. Maybe he doesn't even know himself. I'd count that as likely.

Now, onto your actual chart. We see you have a Pisces DC, a classic sign of getting lost in fantasies about perfect partners. You also have Jupiter retro on your DC, in a pentile with your DC's ruler, Neptune. A quick&dirty interpretation gives us the archetype - attraction to sensitive, glamorous rich guys with worldly authority, BUT with some flaws.
Then we see that his Jupiter is conjunct your DC ruler, Neptune. This feeds back into your DC-Jupiter conjunction and creates the attraction. And it is especially potent as his Jupiter is direct, so it gives you a chance to experience a direct Jupiter energy, where you have a retrograde. This is generally important, it's a way we feel we can "fix ourselves".

His Sun in your H1 makes you notice him and think you're similar, his Venus on your Sun makes you find him attractive. Classic aspects.

The Chiron-MC exact conjunction is interesting though. There is something about Chiron in romantic synastry that keeps coming up, I don't know what it's about. Maybe someone else can chime in.

posted September 22, 2014 07:11 AM              

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Originally posted by Octobie:
Hi LeeLoo. I agree with your view mostly, I am just so intrigued by how we are able to "feel" the connections in synastry with this person without having ever interacted with them, and how powerful those feelings can get.
I've also had two other celebs influence me immensely when I was younger, and I later found that they had luminaries conjunct my NN.
It's just fascinating to me, and a bit scary.
And I do think that if given the chance to meet these people, they would feel some of this stuff too. Maybe then the synastry would be activated, as you say.

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Certainly But the fact that we meet certain people and not others is not random, IMO. In other words, your celeb choices reflect your astrological type, and there are thousands of them to choose from, so you'll obviously "choose to like" the one closer to your ideal. But there are million others girls who fancy Prince Harry for instance, and out of these, the statistical chances for a celeb to form a relationship with a fan are about 0 to 1 person in a lifetime.
I've had my celeb crushes, I know how you feel A celeb crush synastry is a theoretical, fantasy exercise because the chances to meet and interact with that person are actually very slim, the phenomenon of celeb crushes is very common, and a synastry, no matter how good on paper, doesn't produce an actual encounter.

You have great aspects with Harry!

posted September 22, 2014 07:12 AM              

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Personally, I've had a bunch of celeb crushes and all of them made sense given my chart. They were all different versions of what my chart indicates is my type.

Thing is though, with a guy like Prince Harry there are millions of other girls out there who probably have a bit of a crush on him. And for every one of those girls there is probably an astrological reason as to why they do. I think it's important to put such crushes in perspective. Just because some famous person has good synastry with us, and we find them attractive due to this synastry, does not mean there's anything significant to the connection. What I mean is, It's very unlikely that the celeb is our 'destined soulmate' or any such silly thing.

However, I do think the study of celeb crushes is interesting because it shows how our charts very much determines what we find appealing. Why Prince Harry and not some other random famous person? That's the question I find interesting.

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posted September 22, 2014 07:14 AM              

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Your another person I see with their Uranus aspecting celeb's Venus. Maybe we have a trend here.

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posted September 22, 2014 07:20 AM              

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Originally posted by Selene:
I think i've never had a *real* celeb crush, although i am a fan of already 13 years of one particular sportsman. I never had *feelings* for him or fantasized us meeting each other, no, but he always was and always will be important for me. I've outgrown the fangirling stage, but i am still his fan BIG TIME. And i have no reason i fell exactly for him in the first place, the first time i saw him driving that car was when i was eleven years old and he was wearing a helmet, and there was no internet. The only place i could see him or know something about him was every second sunday when there were races and maybe some magazine where his interviews were. It was not romantic or sexual at all, i suppose it was his personality that drew me in...

But what i wanted to tell. The *feelings* i have for him are real in some way. Obviously i am not in love with him, but through so many years (more than half my age, lol!), i've been virtually rooting for the guy, that it is only natural for me to still care about what happens with him (he still drives). He's more to me than just another driver, it's my childhood hero. And i don't ever want to lose that feeling, because that is part of who i am.

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I like your post, Selene I love the people I admire and like: actors, artists, personalities. I don't know them, but I like the energy they project into the world for us, and they are models. So I think yes, there is love involved.

posted September 22, 2014 07:21 AM              

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Originally posted by iliketurtles:
an attraction to a celeb i think tells you more about yourself than what kind connection you may have with them

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Brilliant!

posted September 22, 2014 07:24 AM              

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
Ah, prince Harry. I never got the fascination. Every time people mention him my reaction is Him? Really?
I guess a billion pounds and a princely title really do make anyone attractive.

But, joking aside, on an intellectual level, of course I understand where millions of girls and women draw the attraction from. Apart from the "a billion pounds and a princely title", we also have the double impact of: direct heir to the most famous family in the entire world, thanks to a cruel and abusive legacy of world-wide colonialism & younger son of the possibly most heavily publicly tragically romanticised figure of the past 50 years. And all that with an approachable charm, rare phenotype, stereotypically masculine pursuits and being single.

I'm sorry if this comes off as being overly cynical , but what you have to keep in mind is that the royal family, any royal family, is, and always has been, all about PR. Every detail of this young man's life and his public image is meticulously planned in a cabinet to be appealing, particularly to young women such as yourself. You are the core target audience. You're being sold an image, and much like many others, you bought it. This kid's life is dictated through and through, you have no idea who he really is. Maybe he doesn't even know himself. I'd count that as likely.

Now, onto your actual chart. We see you have a Pisces DC, a classic sign of getting lost in fantasies about perfect partners. You also have Jupiter retro on your DC, in a pentile with your DC's ruler, Neptune. A quick&dirty interpretation gives us the archetype - attraction to sensitive, glamorous rich guys with worldly authority, BUT with some flaws.
Then we see that his Jupiter is conjunct your DC ruler, Neptune. This feeds back into your DC-Jupiter conjunction and creates the attraction. And it is especially potent as his Jupiter is direct, so it gives you a chance to experience a direct Jupiter energy, where you have a retrograde. This is generally important, it's a way we feel we can "fix ourselves".

His Sun in your H1 makes you notice him and think you're similar, his Venus on your Sun makes you find him attractive. Classic aspects.

The Chiron-MC exact conjunction is interesting though. There is something about Chiron in romantic synastry that keeps coming up, I don't know what it's about. Maybe someone else can chime in.

Overall, yes, astrology will have a lot of say in why you're attracted to someone. It will outright spell it out for you in fact, if you can read it.
People have "celeb crushes" to work out their own issues in a safe context. It is, after all, a relationship in which you have absolute advantage. Fiction. This never happens with real life relationships. Those are often dangerous, scary and we lose control and need to compromise on things we don't want to compromise on.

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It looks like I love all answers here, sorry for hijacking your thread with posts, I couldn't help but showing my appreciation