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Topic: Forum Rules // A Not-So-Friendly Reminder
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 05:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vajra: If you start to think like this, the words have already found their target.
I know. I know, I know, I know, I know. You're right. I hadn't. I was angry. Then, I thought, I don't want to project nothing but an aura of anger. I'm not heartless. Am I missing something? How about humility? But you're right. That's not the stance to take. I'm a leader. I know what time it is. Thank you, Vajra. I've been studying the true essence of Stoicism. I greatly appreciated your insight into that regard. It's been so useful to me. IP: Logged |
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posted October 19, 2014 05:06 PM
Page one is just a trouble maker in my view. I've had maybe one even peaceful interaction with them and I see them in the midst of these things all the time. Very very confrontational and disrespectful. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 05:06 PM
Are you saying we should allow it? We should allow blatant disrespect? That's not criticism, Ami. That's abusive. We're to allow abusive behaviour?There is a FINE line between the two. Sometimes, a person will harass you in a way that no one sees until it becomes really obvious. I have had this for many years. I had to learn to deal with it as best as I could. I learned by screwing up and screwing up, basically lol If a person calls you an outright name, then Randall will ban him/her. However, ambient abuse is the Mod's to deal with, as I understand it. That is why many people resign as Mods. However, I learned all this from 6 years of screwing up, so they are lessons won with war wounds lol ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 05:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Page one is just a trouble maker in my view. I've had maybe one even peaceful interaction with them and I see them in the midst of these things all the time. Very very confrontational and disrespectful.
This person has harassed me, too.
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 05:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Page one is just a trouble maker in my view. I've had maybe one even peaceful interaction with them and I see them in the midst of these things all the time. Very very confrontational and disrespectful.
So, the virtual ignore was the right move? I appreciate the confirmation, DeepFreeze. Genuinely. Not a bit sarcastic; these things can get lost anyway -- and during Mercury Wretch, even more so. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 05:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne:There is a FINE line between the two. Sometimes, a person will harass you in a way that no one sees until it becomes really obvious. I have had this for many years. I had to learn to deal with it as best as I could. I learned by screwing up and screwing up, basically lol If a person calls you an outright name, then Randall will ban him/her. However, ambient abuse is the Mod's to deal with, as I understand it. That is why many people resign as Mods. However, I learned all this from 6 years of screwing up, so they are lessons won with war wounds lol [/B]
That seems dicey to me, Ami, but I do appreciate your elucidation. Moderators are expected to take personal attacks that have nothing to do with moderating? I can understand if a Moderator has stepped in to defuse a potential flame war -- and the parties involved are less than sanguine. But blatant attacks, as the Moderator is engaged in nothing outside of the practise of usual forum use -- opening threads, responding to queries, and having discussions -- do seem, to me, at least -- to be crossing a line. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 05:16 PM
Randall has had LL for many years and seen so many personal issues between people. He is wise to tell us to ignore. It is really hard to do but the alternative is lots of tiffs, tiffs, tiffs.Many people come on the internet looking for fights from a life they hate. Hence, they will pick on someone who seems sensitive and gentle. Then, fights begin. I have gotten to the point that I can see that most of them are the same, in the sense, that it is just people venting their inner anger on the internet. I used to take them seriously but now I see that they will be forever thus. If person B gets banned, person AB will take his place LOL There are some people with which one has a serious beef and for good reason but fighting on LL won't solve it ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 05:18 PM
Moderators are expected to take personal attacks that have nothing to do with moderating?If you don't ignore things other than BLATANT insults which are clear for all to see, you will always be in a fight. If a person gives a totally blatant insult, he can be banned but most insults are little sniping things that most people can't see but the target ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 05:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: This person has harassed me, too.
Okay, Ami. To me, that's enough to warrant at least issuing a warning. Right? We don't need to take the abuse. We should be able to warn the individual that it's improper forum conduct. Because it is. Isn't that what we need to be doing, as Moderators, as our primary goal? To ensure that the forum-going experience is a pleasant and productive one for all of our members? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 05:36 PM
If we're supposed to simply take it -- then, okay -- but that means our members are also supposed to 'just take it', too. It seems to me that we could be doing them a disservice by doing that.IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 05:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: If you don't ignore things other than BLATANT insults which are clear for all to see, you will always be in a fight.If a person gives a totally blatant insult, he can be banned but most insults are little sniping things that most people can't see but the target
These are visible to more than me. Moreover, it's a pattern. Now I'm being informed by other members that they too have been attacked. This has also been going on for months. At what point do we decide someone has shown that they refuse to conduct themselves in a respectful manner and should be banned? These are not snipes, but insults, and abusive character judgements. I admit. I've gotten into an argument within the past few weeks with a member when I suggested they take a look at their personal experience, and I was called names and -- whatever. That was an argument. It got heated on both sides. That's entirely different from an unprovoked attack, which is seems is the preferred method of the (aforementioned) individual. At which point do we issue a warning? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 05:44 PM
Okay, Ami. To me, that's enough to warrant at least issuing a warning. Right? We don't need to take the abuse. We should be able to warn the individual that it's improper forum conduct. Because it is. Isn't that what we need to be doing, as Moderators, as our primary goal? To ensure that the forum-going experience is a pleasant and productive one for all of our members?If you can PIN the person down to a blantent insult like your mother wears red stretch pants to Wal mart then he may be able to get banned. If the person just harasses you, I don't think he will lol ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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posted October 19, 2014 05:47 PM
It is best to advise with Randall in these matters. ------------------ ~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 19, 2014 05:53 PM
I don't usually answer your threads because your questions tend to be way too advanced for me. I'm sorry if people are targeting you. But I do very much agree with you on the shocking disrespect that is allowed on this forum and exactly as you say, I believe Linda would be horrified at some of the things threads that are allowed on here. I usually stick to the Astro sections. I did once drop into one of the political areas and the outrageous disrespect over there was stunning. You can disagree with politicians, people, etc. however some of what is written there is totally OTT and beyond the pale. Anyway, it's not my forum. If the owners and operators of this forum think that's Ok.... Well, nothing I can do about it but stay away from those threads.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 05:55 PM
AIf you followed me around LL for one week, you would see 10-20 pointed insults at me ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 3419 From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 19, 2014 05:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by page one: Because you're a drama queen, that's why. It's been like this for months, but poor you, somebody had the nerve to say something, even in fun, so you flounce off and start ANOTHER thread, because your nose has been put out of joint. Again.
HI TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!! You seem like a pleasant person to be around. ------------------------------------------------- The thing is that mods definitely take a lot of crap at times, sometimes unjustified. It is tough line to establish, because on the Internet words can easily be misconstrued. Sometimes people will come off being really rude when they were just joking or being opinionated, everyone has a different sense of humor and approach to things. Aubyanne, as a mod if you feel someone has stepped over the lines, you have a right to stay something and warn them. IDK, I have always felt if we got a timeout button that would help if someone was really out of line- get off the site for a bit and chill. It really comes down to discretion, since there are no 'technical' rules on when and what to stop besides the obvious (profound language, sexism/racism, etc.). Since page lame-I mean one- has a history of this, I think a stern warning is pretty fair. And everything else DeepFreeze said too. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 06:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: [b]Okay, Ami. To me, that's enough to warrant at least issuing a warning. Right? We don't need to take the abuse. We should be able to warn the individual that it's improper forum conduct. Because it is. Isn't that what we need to be doing, as Moderators, as our primary goal? To ensure that the forum-going experience is a pleasant and productive one for all of our members?If you can PIN the person down to a blantent insult like your mother wears red stretch pants to Wal mart then he may be able to get banned. If the person just harasses you, I don't think he will lol [/B]
I've been called a classless narcissist. But I guess that's allowed. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 06:04 PM
If someone calls you a drama queen, that does not rise to the level of being banned, from what I have seen.One person blatantly attacked me and was banned but the "little insults" like drama queen, we just have to take, as I understand it. If you stick with it, you will get more self confidence and more ability to assert yourself in life. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 06:07 PM
classless narcissistNot sure lol I have been called ALL sorts of names and something like this, too, and the person was not banned over this but went too far on something else and was banned lol Think about it. We are a community of very,very diverse people. If Randall banned people for the above, people would have to be watched all the time and LL would feel very stiff. I know it is HARD but the rewards are worth it. I could never, ever handle my website without being a Mod for 6 years. I get insulted and I have to be cool. If I raged at everyone, I would have no time to write my excellent articles ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 06:18 PM
All of these things, I like to believe, happen for a reason, rather than inside of a vacuum. Perhaps I missed something, or accidentally failed to respond to something somewhere. This might have even been taken personally. It seems that things were all right starting out, and soured, dramatically, several months ago. I wonder if there's a cause. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 06:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: All of these things, I like to believe, happen for a reason, rather than inside of a vacuum. Perhaps I missed something, or accidentally failed to respond to something somewhere. This might have even been taken personally. It seems that things were all right starting out, and soured, dramatically, several months ago. I wonder if there's a cause.
No cause. Just people ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Geeky Knowflake Posts: 1726 From: the Sun, vacation house on Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 19, 2014 06:24 PM
No comment or advice, just this really neat rainbow. I really like most everyone here. The people I don't, I just ignore. ------------------ “Most people would rather be sheep than stand on their own with antlers on.” IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6638 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 19, 2014 06:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geeky: No comment or advice, just this really neat rainbow. I really like most everyone here. The people I don't, I just ignore.
Hah! Thanks, Geeky. Cool rainbow. I don't think I'd have been so deeply affected if I wasn't trying to confront something I've had no idea how to for over a decade. So, I wasn't expecting to have shots taken at me right out of the gate. I likely reacted a bit sensitively -- which got me thinking about the whole thing. IP: Logged |
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posted October 19, 2014 06:45 PM
Auby,If/when you have time, please please confirm my Bull is not my Twin! I am meeting him again after 4 years, in a few days. Davison is on page 2, it looks an awful lot like your composite, I thought. But please say he's not that, ohh I don't know if I can take it! He's not, he can't be!! Right?! ------------------ ~the raving one dancing in the nude~ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69037 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 06:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geeky: No comment or advice, just this really neat rainbow. I really like most everyone here. The people I don't, I just ignore.
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