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Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 23, 2014 08:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: You are envious of my Venus sq Neptune??? That would be a first! Usually, people give me a sudden look of pity when they hear it
Uh huh. I'd rather have that than Venus conjunct Neptune. The square means, you jump ship when things get wonky. You are nobody's fool. With the conjunction, you don't get a very definitive sense of when that time is, exactly. You're just kinda like "???<3<3<3???<3<3<3" as you go through life. quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: What did you mean by "deception"?
Oh, with respect to what you had said: " I don't believe in lies and deception, whenever we lie, we create a crumbling future for ourselves. Everything built on lies is doomed to fail." You don't have time for deception. (As per "nobody's fool" reference above.) quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: At least you're both "spiritual" people
I grant you that. Thanks =) IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 23, 2014 08:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: I don't think everyone needs to be 100% honest about everything all the time. There is nothing wrong with "white lies".
"If we were all given by magic the power to read each other's thoughts, I suppose the first effect would be to dissolve all friendships." -Mark Twain ^^ I'm an honest person but I think everyone needs some wiggle room and privacy. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1384 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 23, 2014 09:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: TBH, I don't see anything particularly bad about this. She talked about a hypothetical wedding and you gave a hypothetical "yes". Is there any reason really to say "no"? It avoids unnecessary hurt and awkwardness. How would it help by telling her no you won't go to her theoretical wedding? When her wedding does come around, then that is when you need to say no.I don't think everyone needs to be 100% honest about everything all the time. There is nothing wrong with "white lies".
Thank you!!!! Plus we love in the same house, that'd be mean and awkward...
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next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 2196 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 23, 2014 10:47 PM
...."when everything feels too good to be true"?? My relationship is very neptunian, and I bet it's the most neptunian in here :O In synastry alone we have sun square neptune (below 1 degree, and this is our closest aspect in the whole synastry), and mercury square neptune, jupiter opposite neptune, ascendant opposite neptune, and my neptune in my partners 7th house In composite it explodes with sun, mercury and venus square neptune and neptune in 7th house I think all the descriptions fit well... it's very romantic and like in a fairytale, but it's also a little bit like we just want to say what the other one wants to hear and please each other a little too much maybe IP: Logged |
Gemini30 Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Los Angeles Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 23, 2014 11:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: "If we were all given by magic the power to read each other's thoughts, I suppose the first effect would be to dissolve all friendships." -Mark Twain^^ I'm an honest person but I think everyone needs some wiggle room and privacy.
That is sooooooooo deep! I love Mark Twain and his infamous quotes. So much truth in that quote. Neptune ain't so bad.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 24, 2014 08:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by next to neptune: I think all the descriptions fit well... it's very romantic and like in a fairytale, but it's also a little bit like we just want to say what the other one wants to hear and please each other a little too much maybe
I'm curious-- how long have you been together? Sun square Neptune...are either of you suspicious of the other, and it turns out there was no real cause for it? Do imaginary things "get in the way"? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 24, 2014 08:46 AM
@Gemini30: Thanks ~ yeah I Mark Twain.IP: Logged |
next to neptune Knowflake Posts: 2196 From: The Moon Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 24, 2014 09:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I'm curious-- how long have you been together?Sun square Neptune...are either of you suspicious of the other, and it turns out there was no real cause for it? Do imaginary things "get in the way"?
A little over 1 year I was never really suspicious of him, but we did have 1 drama once over a girl that I was a bit jealous on..she kept contacting him on fb, and in the school and she even gave him a birthday present and it got too much for me. But I think really, it was just her way of making him her friend - but still, a little over the edge maybe. I trust him 100% though, and there is no reason to be suspicious for any of us... But besides from that, we havent really had a drama... I think we are also very good at avoiding any kind of drama lol (and he is also a libra sun + venus, so naturally he is very balanced)
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7167 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 24, 2014 11:06 AM
Uh huh. I'd rather have that than Venus conjunct Neptune. The square means, you jump ship when things get wonky. You are nobody's fool. With the conjunction, you don't get a very definitive sense of when that time is, exactly. You're just kinda like "???<3<3<3???<3<3<3" as you go through life.That is a great description of both aspects, conjunction and square  Any conjunction (especially close) makes it hard to look at that pair from a distance. It's so ingrained and natural and functioning on an unconscious, pulsional level. While the square gives you events and sometimes challenges forcing you to integrate that aspect with more free will, to learn how to deal with it, at your choice. Squares are the part of our chart building our character. I wish everyone sees this and gives up the outdated view that sq and opps are bad, conjunctions and trines are good etc. Every aspect has an equally good and bad side.
Thanks ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1384 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 24, 2014 11:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: [b]Uh huh. I'd rather have that than Venus conjunct Neptune. The square means, you jump ship when things get wonky. You are nobody's fool. With the conjunction, you don't get a very definitive sense of when that time is, exactly. You're just kinda like "???<3<3<3???<3<3<3" as you go through life.That is a great description of both aspects, conjunction and square  Any conjunction (especially close) makes it hard to look at that pair from a distance. It's so ingrained and natural and functioning on an unconscious, pulsional level. While the square gives you events and sometimes challenges forcing you to integrate that aspect with more free will, to learn how to deal with it, at your choice. Squares are the part of our chart building our character. I wish everyone sees this and gives up the outdated view that sq and opps are bad, conjunctions and trines are good etc. Every aspect has an equally good and bad side.
Thanks [/B]
I have the conjunction by 0.02 degree. I really relate ...Albeit Neptune isn't strong in my chart
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8850 From: Mordor Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 24, 2014 01:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Don't be afraid. Just make sure you live where the weed is cheap and legal, so you can enjoy a safe breakfast without police interference.
That was a joke. I couldn't do it every day and not instead of eating breakfast. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 4676 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted October 24, 2014 01:29 PM
I'm in a Neptunian/Pluto/Venus/Moon relationship right now! Omg! LolI love it the forgiveness is so sweet! His pisces so he doesn't always see things in reality...he gets hurt easily by his fears that he projects on us or me, actually we take turns projecting our insecurities and fears on each other. His saggy Neptune is exact sextile my libra Venus and his libra Pluto(0 degree conjunct) His cap Venus squares our Pluto/Venus exact My virgo Moon squares his saggy Neptune and trines his Venus exact. We have a lot of love and a lot of confusion and frustration...but we love working it out and we feel stronger afterwards. We have this super sweet/tight bond, we have so much love I cant stand it when we don't get along and don't just trust that we love each other! I could never feel like I hate him or get so angry I don't want to be with him, I get frustrated but feel more like "oh baby lets just stop hurting and just love each other" Neither of us actually do anything that hurts the other. We are both so devoted and engaged but our fears get the better of us and we think we don't have what we really do have, a lot of love. The way we get is so odd sometimes, insecurities and fears that we are going to get hurt but neither of us do anything to hurt the other, we love, respect and adapt to learn about each other, we really have so much love and devotion between us. I guess this is just another delusion of Neptune! IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7167 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 24, 2014 02:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby:
I guess this is just another delusion of Neptune !!
Hey, don't say that, why does it have to be a delusion? It makes sense, maybe you've both been hurt before and it's always this feeling when you meet something that feels right after several disappointments, you doubt it first, it takes time  Outer planets are majestic, heroic, there's no middle ground with them: it's either very high or very low. hence the fear they bring in people. Out of all of them, I noticed Neptune inspires the highest fear of all, it's a bit disconcerting even. Maybe because irrational fear is its domain?? ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 199 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 24, 2014 02:17 PM
When you solve your issues through dreams... But we also had Telephus conjunct mercury & Telephus conjunct Uranus and Neptune.When it was like a fairytale but ended mysteriously and is still a vague and unclear relationship to this day Neptune conjunct mercury exact, Neptune conjunct sun and mercury, trine moon exact, trine mars, conjunct venus... *sigh*
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 24, 2014 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: That was a joke. I couldn't do it every day and not instead of eating breakfast.
It doesn't have to be either/or! You and Mr. Soulmate can make magic muffins with healthy ingredients like bran, fruit, organic eggs and weed!  And yes I am half-joking, too! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 24, 2014 02:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I wish everyone sees this and gives up the outdated view that sq and opps are bad, conjunctions and trines are good etc. Every aspect has an equally good and bad side.Thanks
Thank you for your insights as well. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7167 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 24, 2014 03:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: It doesn't have to be either/or! You and Mr. Soulmate can make magic muffins with healthy ingredients like bran, fruit, organic eggs and weed!  And yes I am half-joking, too!
Man, you do know how to get people hungry Cappy, save one for me!  IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 24, 2014 03:11 PM
^^ LL party in Amsterdam for Cappy's wedding   "Yum, this wedding cake is soooooo good! What'd you put in it??"  IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 24, 2014 03:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Selenite: When you solve your issues through dreams... But we also had Telephus conjunct mercury & Telephus conjunct Uranus and Neptune.
What's Telephus? I sometimes have "total recall" emotional dreams about my ex-soulmate. I am technically over him but these dreams are intense and bewildering...so lemme see...Telephus 5264: Holy cow it's conjunct my Mars, just a smidgen over 1 degree. I'll have to research that. Composite Telephus 5 Cancer Composite Uranus 5 Scorpio IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 24, 2014 03:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown:
Thank you!!!! Plus we love in the same house, that'd be mean and awkward...
Here's another real world example: As much as I adore my BF, he really dresses terribly on a day to day basis. If I just came out and told him "Dude, that t-shirt is horrrrible", he'd be hurt as would I if he said the same thing. There really is no need for that. So what I do is when we go shopping together I'll suggested clothes to him that would suit him and actually fit. He's generally receptive when I tell him how nice he looks in something or I'll say, try this one it might fit better, etc. I mean, he can see that he looks better when his clothes actually fit properly and I didn't have to actually say "Your clothes don't fit. You look like a child wearing your dad, Hagrid's, clothes.". Ok, I'm not being 100% honest by not telling him I hate his clothes. lol. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7167 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 24, 2014 03:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: Here's another real world example: As much as I adore my BF, he really dresses terribly on a day to day basis. If I just came out and told him "Dude, that t-shirt is horrrrible", he'd be hurt as would I if he said the same thing. There really is no need for that. So what I do is when we go shopping together I'll suggested clothes to him that would suit him and actually fit. He's generally receptive when I tell him how nice he looks in something or I'll say, try this one it might fit better, etc. I mean, he can see that he looks better when his clothes actually fit properly and I didn't have to actually say "Your clothes don't fit. You look like a child wearing your dad, Hagrid's, clothes.". Ok, I'm not being 100% honest by not telling him I hate his clothes. lol.
tsk tsk tsk
 you! two-faced manipulative....Lucie!  IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 24, 2014 03:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: tsk tsk tsk  you! two-faced manipulative....Lucie! 
LOL! Not sure that's anything to do with Neptune. Probably more to do with men and women. Men often don't really care what they are wearing. Not that I care all that much. I'm a Sag after all. But geez that boy picks out the worst possible combinations in that wardrobe of his! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 8623 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 24, 2014 03:45 PM
***Continuing on with my ramblings above...don't mind me and my dreamy Pisces moon here***I can't get over the similarities in my composite with the ex-soulmate and my composite with my husband, even though their birthdays/ages are nowhere near each other. Both composites have a kite formation with Pluto at the base, flanked by Mars on the one side and a Neptune-Mercury conjunction on the other. Both composites have water at the apex: Aries moon with the ex, Pisces Chiron with my husband. Composite Juno w/ ex = husband's Neptune exact Composite sun w/ ex = composite NN w/ husband exact Composite Pluto w/ husband = ex's sun = my natal Juno = husband's pr sun-Mars when we married Also, both my husband and my ex have a Mars-Pluto-Mercury-Venus conjunction.  And I knew nothing about astrology, apart from sun signs, when I got married, so it's not like I planned this. I couldn't have planned it if I tried! Kinda off topic here unless you count the fact that I must've been guided by something in the back of my head (ie Neptune's domain) when choosing my husband (I liked him first; this was my idea. ) IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 7167 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted October 24, 2014 03:59 PM
I'm a bit confused about the watery Aries Moon  IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 1384 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 24, 2014 04:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: Here's another real world example: As much as I adore my BF, he really dresses terribly on a day to day basis. If I just came out and told him "Dude, that t-shirt is horrrrible", he'd be hurt as would I if he said the same thing. There really is no need for that. So what I do is when we go shopping together I'll suggested clothes to him that would suit him and actually fit. He's generally receptive when I tell him how nice he looks in something or I'll say, try this one it might fit better, etc. I mean, he can see that he looks better when his clothes actually fit properly and I didn't have to actually say "Your clothes don't fit. You look like a child wearing your dad, Hagrid's, clothes.". Ok, I'm not being 100% honest by not telling him I hate his clothes. lol.
That's very tactful of you! The thing is when it comes to bigger things in life, I still have problems communicating honestly with her. And I have noticed she doesn't communicate with me either, until things just "show up." My moon also square her moon and her mercury ... So hurt feelings go covered and not discussed. She has cancer moon and mars so I'm assuming lots of things are felt. I personally know that if we have an argument, I'd win and overpower her (Aries moon, cap mars, virgo jupiter) and there's no use in that ...So then I just become even more sensitive ... IP: Logged |