posted November 02, 2014 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Second, what's the deal with belittling LeeLoo's astro competence?

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posted November 02, 2014 01:40 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

OK Highlander and Enlightened Christ Consciousness - you're pretty aggressive for this self-title, don't you think?, start with the OP They've already HAD a relationship and it's ongoing (unfortunately lol sorry DSB) so yes, a relationship of almost 6 years was possible with this chart. And Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson have been married for 26 years! What about checking Goldie and Kurt Russel? And yes, astrology is research, based on the research of thousands or at least hundreds of charts and this research gives you the moral right to come here and offer advice which some people take very seriously, so you should take counselling serious too. Without this research, you don't have this moral right, not to mention the expertise, and you, as a moral enlightened immortal person should know it better than all of us

Sun and Moon are conjunct in this chart.

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Lol..1st I I never once said I was 'enlightened christ consciousness' nor do i go out preaching anything about that in terms of myself.

2nd post Goldie Hawn's and KR's composite chart if you are going to compare it to this chart. I am taking into consideration the entire chart. Post the 2nd one you mentioned as well.

posted November 02, 2014 01:42 PM              

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Yikes. I bet this king of petty bickering is exactly what the OP needs in her time of distress….

Frist, deepseablues, so sorry for what you're going through I hope he uses the time apart from you well, recovers his power, and one day, becomes a good (and clean!) friend at least whom you can trust.

Second, what's the deal with belittling LeeLoo's astro competence? Unlike those here who present themselves as experts, she must have done scores of complete chart readings right here, on LindaLand, for everyone to see. There can be no doubt she knows very well what she's talking about, and again unlike some who make extravagant claims only, she gives her reasons for making assessments, cites her data and gives examples. It's certainly okay to disagree with assessments made by her or anyone else, but the tone of some replies to her is really something else and unbecoming of people who consider themselves "spiritually advanced".

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posted November 02, 2014 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm not sure who has an open marriage...certainly not Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks, or Goldie and Kurt Russel, to my knowledge. Goldie proposed an open marriage at their beginnings, but that was just her "bad, wild girl" act Kurt never accepted it, to my knowledge (duh!)

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posted November 02, 2014 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Sorry for going OT, deepseablues, will stop doing that now.

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I'm glad you're saying something, Vajra. This is the sort of disrespect I see here which just sets my teeth on edge. If we act as a community, I feel, we'll all put our best foot forward in general.

posted November 02, 2014 02:17 PM              

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Originally posted by Vajra:
athenegoddess,

this post of yours is a good example of what I meant. It's perfectly possible you don't even realize how what you wrote comes across, and perhaps didn't even mean it that way (which I hope), but since I am not LeeLoo, merely an outside observer, and have thus no reason to feel personally offended by your tone, please take it seriously when I say it literally made me squirm to read it. This sort of bitchiness is just so pointless and LeeLoo surely doesn't deserve it.

Sorry for going OT, deepseablues, will stop doing that now.

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posted November 02, 2014 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Yikes. I bet this king of petty bickering is exactly what the OP needs in her time of distress….

Frist, deepseablues, so sorry for what you're going through I hope he uses the time apart from you well, recovers his power, and one day, becomes a good (and clean!) friend at least whom you can trust.

Second, what's the deal with belittling LeeLoo's astro competence? Unlike those here who present themselves as experts, she must have done scores of complete chart readings right here, on LindaLand, for everyone to see. There can be no doubt she knows very well what she's talking about, and again unlike some who make extravagant claims only, she gives her reasons for making assessments, cites her data and gives examples. It's certainly okay to disagree with assessments made by her or anyone else, but the tone of some replies to her is really something else and unbecoming of people who consider themselves "spiritually advanced".

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posted November 02, 2014 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by deepseablues:
That's alright I don't mind the thread diversion especially for astrological debate. I myself have inadvertently diverted threads and not realized how I was coming across. I am thankful to everyone's time and advice including athenegoddess, I think all have made veritable points and am very appreciative. I will be careful in the continuation of the relationship even as a friendship. I really just want to help him get better but I need to help myself too. But it did end so abruptly I feel the need to go for the walk with him today even if its just for some closure or to be able to look into his eyes and try to assess from that how I think/feel he is doing.

In anyone's personal opinion are composites or synastry more important, indicative and verifiable for compatibility, soul mates/twin flames, etc?

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The problem, as I experienced it, when someone comes clean is that you can help him during this stage only if you're willing to take part in the "coming clean" process (keep him locked in his home etc.) After that, there is a long long process of rehabilitation, when he needs your support as a friend.

posted November 02, 2014 02:59 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry if you felt ridiculed, Athene, that was not my intention, and I mean it. I simply had a contradictory view, that's why I started my post with "I'm sorry, I have to contradict the previous opinions". I have no problem if someone reacts to that and a debate starts, but I do have a problem when the counter-arguments are not based on facts and the tone is disrespectful, because this is usually an attempt to cover the lack of facts.

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The facts are that Uranus square Sun in the composite chart makes for an unstable relationship. Plus there are other things in this composite chart which make it one that is less than ideal for a loving lasting relationship.

posted November 02, 2014 03:06 PM            

I agree with that, at least to a degree.

In the end it doesn`t matter how great a synastry or composite or how twinflamey it is, if the two people do not treat each other and themselves with love and respect.

posted November 02, 2014 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

The facts are that Uranus square Sun in the composite chart makes for an unstable relationship. Plus there are other things in this composite chart which make it one that is less than ideal for a loving lasting relationship.

It's alright. I really don't take anything personal.

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There is no such thing in this composite. What you see there is called a Cross. A Mutable Cross on angles.

And no, composite Sun sq Uranus is not always unstable. In the composite chart of Meryl Streep/Don Gummer - whom I believe everyone here knows and everyone knows how long they have been married - how is that unstable?, the Sun/Uranus square is EXACT- mutable degree 25. Camilla and Prince Charles have a loose Sun/Uranus square, 3 deg.

posted November 02, 2014 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Yes I agree with you LeeLoo. I did basically "babysit" him for the almost two years. Starting off with trying to get him clean cold turkey, I thought it worked, found our months later it didn't. It was basically impossible to keep him locked in because I had to go to work. So he got on methdose and again I thought that he was clean except for methadose but weird things continued to happen (strange people came to the door, things still being pawned, money being withheld etc.) so we broke up. It's funny cause we broke up the day I bought Gooberz, someone else told me after that this book is supposed to help one connect to their Twin Flame. I don't know if we are Twin Flames or not but anyway we broke up the day I bought that book, Juno was opposing my Uranus as well. Unexpected events occured for sure! Currently he is living with his mother who is his new "babysitter" but she works and is pretty social so I don't know how well that's going. Also she exacerbates the situation by insisting on his having a cell phone and paying for it and I feel this is what was also the downfall when I was trying to help him, because it would have been a lot harder for him to access the people/drugs had she not insisted on getting him the phone when he wouldn't have had one otherwise by not being able to pay for it himself.

As one more astrological side note story, there were I series of eclipses in April/May 2013 I believe. On one of these eclipses I looked up to see the exact time of the eclipse and realized it was happening that minute! So I went out to tell him it was happening right then and discovered him with a bag of needles. We lost our place the eclipse in April this year. Haha I have a fear of eclipses now.

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I'm sorry, it's really a tough one, this fight. If he doesn't want it, if he's not cut out for making it....no one can help him. That's why I said it's a lottery. It's a VERY good thing he's supported by his family though.
Deepseablues, this thing takes a lot of time it takes years to realize if he quit or not.

posted November 02, 2014 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"There is no manner of astrological interaction between two people that is so inherently sweet that enough selfishness, confusion about sex, or immaturity cannot turn it sour. There is no manner of astrological interaction between two people that is so inherently bitter that enough patience, devotion, and humility can not only make it last, but make it something precious to both people." - Steven Forrest on relationship synastry

I agree with that, at least to a degree.

In the end it doesn`t matter how great a synastry or composite or how twinflamey it is, if the two people do not treat each other and themselves with love and respect.

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posted November 02, 2014 03:23 PM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There is no such thing in this composite. What you see there is called a Cross. A Mutable Cross on angles.

And no, composite Sun sq Uranus is not always unstable. In the composite chart of Meryl Streep/Don Gummer - whom I believe everyone here knows and everyone knows how long they have been married - how is that unstable?, the Sun/Uranus square is EXACT- mutable degree 25. Camilla and Prince Charles have a loose Sun/Uranus square, 3 deg.

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posted November 02, 2014 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There is no such thing in this composite. What you see there is called a Cross. A Mutable Cross on angles.

And no, composite Sun sq Uranus is not always unstable. In the composite chart of Meryl Streep/Don Gummer - whom I believe everyone here knows and everyone knows how long they have been married - how is that unstable?, the Sun/Uranus square is EXACT- mutable degree 25. Camilla and Prince Charles have a loose Sun/Uranus square, 3 deg.

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There is a perfect square between Sun and Uranus in the composite. Look again.

ETA: And if you're going to make an issue of "anecdotal evidence", pulling out the Celebrity Soulmate Synastry of famous couples is about the most anecdotal kind of evidence you could possibly use.