posted November 02, 2014 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Celebrity data is on public record, thus accessible for checks to everyone, which makes it more suitable than private data in cases such as this. And one example to the contrary is actually enough to disprove the idea that a theory works in 100% of all cases. This one about the effect of Sun-Uranus square clearly doesn't hold water in 100% of the cases. For what it's worth, I can add another anecdotal example to this effect, because in the composite of my aunt and uncle, who have been happily married for more than 50 years now, there is a Sun-Moon-Uranus T-Square with Uranus at the apex. I suppose because they're both Uranian characters, this aspect takes on a different quality with them; he's a retired aerospace engineer, she an occultist/alternative healer, very "far out" for her generation.

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posted November 03, 2014 06:10 AM            

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Originally posted by page one:
There is a perfect square between Sun and Uranus in the composite. Look again.

ETA: And if you're going to make an issue of "anecdotal evidence", pulling out the Celebrity Soulmate Synastry of famous couples is about the most anecdotal kind of evidence you could possibly use.

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Page one, it seems you're very new to astrology - is this where the nickname "page one" comes from?
Otherwise you would know relational astrologers, apart from their database of clients and acquaintances, have a database of famous synastries they study, an ongoing one: couples, murderous pairs, famous friendships and enmities, famous relationships in general, validated by time and history.

And no, no square in that composite: it's called a Cross. Golden rule of pattern astrology: interpret the pattern, not its component. If it's a T/square, interpret the T-square; a Minor Triangle, the Minor Triangle, not the sextile composing it. The components' interpretation depends on the whole.

But how would you know? Your only input on this forum is occasional trolling. When was the last time you paid a contribution here by opening a thread or writing a post where you exchange astrological information, or life information, where you give something positive to the world instead of spitting on it?

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posted November 03, 2014 06:22 AM            

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Originally posted by kaianna:
im not bashing anyway. but many of the couples posted above do have ''unstable'' relationships. Meryl streep is an actress and her husband has his own career, when she is filming im sure they spend many days, weeks or even months apart throughout their marriage, for many people this would be considered 'unstable'. Same with goldie, tom hanks etc. Even prince charles and camilla, he got married to another woman during the course of their relationship and their whole love story to me would be considered unstable. Soi dont think any of the couples listed above should be used as an example. However we can say that just because i reltionship is unstable it doesnt mean that it is not viable. You must be careful with strong uranus, i have a lot of strong uranus and it doesnt work for me, so i can imagine others. I think it really depends on how a relationship is set up and also how strong the saturn is. Many of the couples above have very strong saturn or binding aspects like meryl with the grand gross in the synastry, so that is a factor to.

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I think you're wrong, you should read their biography, all the examples I gave are among the most stable and long-lasting famous couples. Maybe they will split one day, but so far, 10, 20, 30 years, their relationship has not been an unstable one - even the challenge of filming in distant locations in Hollywood didn't separate them, although that's a challenge for many couples of actors.

Stable does not mean having a partner like a dog under your bed at your disposal 24/7.

Uranian instability means on and off, coming and going, a chaotic lifestyle.

Uranus does not mean JUST instability in charts. It also means:

- a couple made of two unlikely people, or different in some way: ethnicity, background etc.
- an international couple
- a couple of scientists, or having a lifestye related to the field of Uranus: like a couple of mathematicians
- a couples of adventurers, explorers, travelers, alpinists etc
- a couple who is much involved in the community, a New Age, philantropic couple
- a New Age couple in general
- a couple having an alternative lifestyle of any kind
- a couple having an exciting, adventurous life etc.

Uranus in the composite chart shows the dose of the above and it's customized for each couple: sometimes it means instability, sometimes it doesn't.

Uranus is a wonderful planet bringing excitement, thrills, revelations, adventure, feeling everything like a lightning bolt through the heart and without it, any chart would be dull.

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posted November 03, 2014 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I think much of it comes down to how we individually define "unstable".
To me the fact that a couple is not spending 24 hours of the day with each other is not necessaril a sign of lacking stability. Just that they do not spend 24 hours a day with each other.

for me unstable actually means "on-off"-relationships (as one example).

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posted November 03, 2014 06:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Celebrity data is on public record, thus accessible for checks to everyone, which makes it more suitable than private data in cases such as this. And one example to the contrary is actually enough to disprove the idea that a theory works in 100% of all cases. This one about the effect of Sun-Uranus square clearly doesn't hold water in 100% of the cases. For what it's worth, I can add another anecdotal example to this effect, because in the composite of my aunt and uncle, who have been happily married for more than 50 years now, there is a Sun-Moon-Uranus T-Square with Uranus at the apex. I suppose because they're both Uranian characters, this aspect takes on a different quality with them; he's a retired aerospace engineer, she an occultist/alternative healer, very "far out" for her generation.

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posted November 03, 2014 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think you're wrong, you should read their biography, all the examples I gave are among the most stable and long-lasting famous couples. Maybe they will split one day, but so far, 10, 20, 30 years, their relationship has not been an unstable one - even the challenge of filming in distant locations in Hollywood didn't separate them, although that's a challenge for many couples of actors.

Stable does not mean having a partner like a dog under your bed at your disposal 24/7.

Uranian instability means on and off, coming and going, a chaotic lifestyle.

Uranus does not mean JUST instability in charts. It also means:

- a couple made of two unlikely people, or different in some way: ethnicity, background etc.
- an international couple
- a couple of scientists, or having a lifestye related to the field of Uranus: like a couple of mathematicians
- a couples of adventurers, explorers, travelers, alpinists etc
- a couple who is much involved in the community, a New Age, philantropic couple
- a New Age couple in general
- a couple having an alternative lifestyle of any kind
- a couple having an exciting, adventurous life etc.

Uranus in the composite chart shows the dose of the above and it's customized for each couple: sometimes it means instability, sometimes it doesn't.

Uranus is a wonderful planet bringing excitement, thrills, revelations, adventure, feeling everything like a lightning bolt through the heart and without it, any chart would be dull.

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Well a lot of people can't handle those types of relationships, many would fail if placed in a situation of not seeing their spouses for an extended period of time. It really depends on the couple but uranus isn't for everyone.

Wait do any of the couples like meryl etc have strong neptune?

posted November 03, 2014 09:56 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Page one, it seems you're very new to astrology - is this where the nickname "page one" comes from?
Otherwise you would know relational astrologers, apart from their database of clients and acquaintances, have a database of famous synastries they study, an ongoing one: couples, murderous pairs, famous friendships and enmities, famous relationships in general, validated by time and history.

And no, no square in that composite: it's called a Cross. Golden rule of pattern astrology: interpret the pattern, not its component. If it's a T/square, interpret the T-square; a Minor Triangle, the Minor Triangle, not the sextile composing it. The components' interpretation depends on the whole.

But how would you know? Your only input on this forum is occasional trolling. When was the last time you paid a contribution here by opening a thread or writing a post where you exchange astrological information, or life information, where you give something positive to the world instead of spitting on it?

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Wow. This is not your week.

A grand cross is two intersecting oppositions, making four squares. In this case, Uranus dominates it, sitting on the MC. It also rules the 12th house. On top of that, Pisces is rising. So you've got a relationship here with a lot of Uranian and Neptunian energy, and unless the natals have these energies prominent, it probably isn't a good thing, in spite of the efforts of some to insist these energies aren't that bad. That isn't the case here. On top of that, as the OP said, addiction was a major problem in this relationship. Neptune and Uranus, instability and addiction, with maybe a little wishful thinking involved.

posted November 03, 2014 10:20 AM            

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Originally posted by page one:
Wow. This is not your week.

A grand cross is two intersecting oppositions, making four squares. In this case, Uranus dominates it, sitting on the MC. It also rules the 12th house. On top of that, Pisces is rising. So you've got a relationship here with a lot of Uranian and Neptunian energy, and unless the natals have these energies prominent, it probably isn't a good thing, in spite of the efforts of some to insist these energies aren't that bad. That isn't the case here. On top of that, as the OP said, addiction was a major problem in this relationship. Neptune and Uranus, instability and addiction, with maybe a little wishful thinking involved.

As for the celebrity synastry, your use of it here is totally anecdotal. Streep and Gummer both have a lot of Uranus in their charts, as someone else has pointed out, so the prognosis for their future would be brighter in spite of or because of the square. This doesn't change the fact that for MOST COUPLES, heavy uranus destabilises.

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Wow. First astrological post by Page One! This is your week.

Time to celebrate. The champagne is on you, I'm afraid, you're the rookie.

You could have written this different opinion of yours in the first place, sweetie, no need to belittle other people's, no need for trolling.

And no, nothing anecdotal about me and my examples from public record synastries, I study those synastries, I've been doing it for quite some time.

Keep it up with the astrological input good improvement here, I can feel you're about to turn that "page one"

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posted November 03, 2014 10:24 AM            

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Originally posted by kaianna:
Well a lot of people can't handle those types of relationships, many would fail if placed in a situation of not seeing their spouses for an extended period of time. It really depends on the couple but uranus isn't for everyone.

Wait do any of the couples like meryl etc have strong neptune?

Why do some uranus couples work and not others?

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As page one very well said, the result of an Uranian synastry/composite depends on the natal integration of Uranus, what it means for both people. At least this is my opinion too.

posted November 03, 2014 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Wow. First astrological post by Page One! This is your week.

Time to celebrate. The champagne is on you, I'm afraid, you're the rookie.

You could have written this different opinion of yours in the first place, sweetie, no need to belittle other people's, no need for trolling.

And no, nothing anecdotal about me and my examples from public record synastries, I study those synastries, I've been doing it for quite some time.

Keep it up with the astrological input good improvement here, I can feel you're about to turn that "page one"

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posted November 03, 2014 04:31 PM            

And don't think that if we're Moderators, you can say anything to us.

posted November 03, 2014 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hahahaha no rage here...just waiting for the champagne

And don't think that if we're Moderators, you can say anything to us.

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posted November 03, 2014 04:43 PM            

Now you did it again, contributing to this thread with more trolling and calling another Moderator a "screw-up".

And you're ONLY on this forum for this kind of interventions. Always. Your only contribution to this board.

How many warnings do you think you have left?

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posted November 03, 2014 04:58 PM            

But no "aspect lines to all", please. Just standard astro aspects
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posted November 03, 2014 05:24 PM            

Is there Venus on the SN in the synastry? It appears in the composite. This is part of what creates that comfortable feeling plus the Moon-Venus and Venus-Venus. Since SN contacts are usually limiting, I would say reflect on what you want versus what you need currently, as they're often two different things.

posted November 03, 2014 10:02 PM              

@Iced8Ace, yes his Venus/Moon conjunction is conjunct my South Node/Angel, but with a 5 degree orb. Our Angels are conjunct. He has and still does call me his "real life angel." We both feel like we knew each other in a past life. Sometimes I think we were family members or that he was even my father in a past life, there was a strange possessive yet comforting feel to his touch, it's hard to explain but it felt almost fatherly at times, I know that sounds creepy but I don't know how else to explain it... my father in this life struggles with harsh addictions and my brother is also Leo who has had heroin struggles in his past so there are those connections too. In his (my ex's) chart he has asteroids Union/Pandora/my name asteroid exact conjunct with Sabian "An Aristocratic Family Tree," I have Sun/Pandora exact in natal. There is also an asteroid with our two first names put together! Our synastry is not great though I feel besides the house overlays. Our Suns square (2 degree orb), my Sun quincunx his Asc, Our Asc's quincunx each other.

posted November 03, 2014 10:21 PM              

We both have Uranian aspects in Natal. His Uranus conjunct DSC and SN (3 degrees and 5 deg respectively), part of a wide orbed t-square- square Mercury (6 degrees), opposite Asc (3 deg), opp Chiron (2 deg), opp NN (5 deg), trine Sun (3 deg), trine moon (8 deg), sextile MC (3 deg).
Also he's got Pluto, Karma, Altantis exact/1 degree orb conjuction, square Neptune. We both feel strong Atlantis connections and I read in another thread that people with Karma Square Neptune messed up bad in Atlantis and shouldn't take drugs.. Oh well too late for him I guess. He starting shaking and crying a bit when we got our first crystals together, he was drawn to 2 different clear quartz, one an "old soul" crystal. He also has Kaali opp his exact Moon/Venus conjunction, 2 degrees.

I have Uranus in 12th widely conjunct my exact Saturn/Neptune/Asc conjunction (7 deg to all), sextile Sun (2 deg)

posted November 04, 2014 07:04 AM            

Here are some medical asteroids:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001473.html

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posted November 05, 2014 03:20 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

The facts are that Uranus square Sun in the composite chart makes for an unstable relationship. Plus there are other things in this composite chart which make it one that is less than ideal for a loving lasting relationship.

It's alright. I really don't take anything personal.

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Sun sq Uranus could also mean an "unusual" relationship if both people's natals indicate this is something they crave/need/want than that can be a good thing.

However, just based on what the OP is saying, I agree with you that in this case it's indicative of instability.

With Neptune as the chart ruler and real life history of substance abuse, I think that DBS is best to extricate herself from this. I think she's done what she was meant to do for him and now he needs to do the rest of the work by himself.

DBS, please work on letting go.

posted November 05, 2014 07:33 AM            

But to each his own