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Ceridwen
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posted December 14, 2014 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Messieri,

massive


Also on the 2nd house, it is seriously undervalued in astrology, and so important. Basil FEarrington even sais he starts synastry THERE.
I am not as strict in that regard or focused on it, but I do think he has a point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XATq1BlKwac


It might not relate really to the topic of love addiction here, but I have a very vulnerable 2nd house.

cusp in Capricorn, r2 in Cancer retro in 8th house
Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house, as ruler of 8th

for all the 2/8, Moon/Saturn plus a bit of Aquarius attached to that, for me a relationship could only work if it reflected some of that.
I suppose a synastry or the others natal being all composed of Jupiter-Venus-Neptune, as magnetized I might be to that individual (my Mars-Jupiter-Neptune WOULD be highly attracted to that individual I am sure), but if the other one did not have some of the serious pattern my 2nd house suggests, the commitment laced with a bit of Uranian vibe, a very vital part of me would stay hunry and unfulfilled, and I would never feel valued. And without feeling valued, there would never be a relationship for me in the longterm (other than fleeting crushes and imaginary romance - castles in the clouds: I love them, I dream of them, but I know they would never be enough for me in a relationship-way)

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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted December 17, 2014 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
oh wait, you have a tight Venus-Neptune square? Ok, that's the bug, that's the one. Hopeless romantic forevah!

Haha I can confirm this too.

Venus in Libra square Neptune & Uranus.

I'm too much of an idealist and romantic when it comes to love and relationships.

My DESC co-ruler is also in Pisces in the 8th, so I can be quite intense and jealous too. Lol
I do tend to have obsessive thoughts about the person I fall for, but it's more of an obsessive fantasy. Like I can't stop day dreaming about them. But it's nothing too extreme.

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posted December 17, 2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Messieri,

massive


Also on the 2nd house, it is seriously undervalued in astrology, and so important. Basil FEarrington even sais he starts synastry THERE.
I am not as strict in that regard or focused on it, but I do think he has a point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XATq1BlKwac


It might not relate really to the topic of love addiction here, but I have a very vulnerable 2nd house.

cusp in Capricorn, r2 in Cancer retro in 8th house
Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house, as ruler of 8th

for all the 2/8, Moon/Saturn plus a bit of Aquarius attached to that, for me a relationship could only work if it reflected some of that.
I suppose a synastry or the others natal being all composed of Jupiter-Venus-Neptune, as magnetized I might be to that individual (my Mars-Jupiter-Neptune WOULD be highly attracted to that individual I am sure), but if the other one did not have some of the serious pattern my 2nd house suggests, the commitment laced with a bit of Uranian vibe, a very vital part of me would stay hunry and unfulfilled, and I would never feel valued. And without feeling valued, there would never be a relationship for me in the longterm (other than fleeting crushes and imaginary romance - castles in the clouds: I love them, I dream of them, but I know they would never be enough for me in a relationship-way)


Oh, no, I think the 2nd house is totally relevant here. When you don't value yourself all that much, it's easy to put up with bad behaviour from others.

And I loved that video from Basil Fearrington. It's been a while since I watched it, but it's definitely worth watching it again. I find 2nd house very telling in my synastries with others - some people just make me feel comfortable right away and they usually touch my 2nd house/ruler in some way.

Whoa, Saturn ruling the 2nd house and then Rx must be tough, though I can see it lead to growing confidence over time. I get you wanting to have these needs met, too, for anything long-term to last. (Sounds like Saturn and Moon to me!)

My 2nd house Pluto makes for some intense swings in confidence for me. It makes a harsh aspect to my Sun, 8th and chart ruler, so it's taken me long to accept I shouldn't look for approval & happiness outside of myself. And when I started being honest about what I really wanted, suddenly things started falling into place and I'm so glad it happened before I met my boyfriend (who has a huge 2nd house emphasis himself, with Moon, Uranus, Neptune and the NN here, plus Venus conjunct the 2nd house ruler. My whole Cap stellium and Vesta fall right into it. It's intense!)

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posted December 17, 2014 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Any moon sign can get addicted to someone else. It just depends on the synastry... and also the natal chart. For example, SN conjunct Venus especially in a Male tends to create what I like to call "Henry the 8th Syndrome". Where the person tends to see their partner through VERY Rose colored glasses and can get obsessed and then once they get commited to the partner they realize that their partner (Gasp!) actually has flaws, so they become enchanted by someone else and dump the commited person and restart the unhealthy love addiction cycle all over again. With these natives as they see it- when they stop being commited to their partner it's not their own fault, but their partner's fault. "You make me cheat on you." "You are not the woman I thought you were and that is your fault." etc...

King Henry the 8th would fall for a woman after thinking she the perfect goddess, then after marriage would come to realize she was not perfect after-all and would then severe his commitment to the person. He would never look to himself as the problem. It was always THEIR fault that he fell out of love so off went their heads (or a big divorce depending on the wife we're talking about). And yes in case you're wondering- Henry the 8th also had this aspect in his natal chart so I don't call it by his name for nothing. Just one astrological example of what can cause repeated unhealthy love obsessions.



Holy crap! This is my ex. I was his 3rd divorce & he had not yet turned 40. I was his party girl/arm candy until I became pregnant with our daughter & I grew up. Peter Pan said marriage & parenthood were "too hard".
8H Sun/retro Venus/Jupiter/Ńarcissus conjunction in Scorpio opposite 2H Taurus Moon. Mars/Uranus conjunct Libra DSC which conjuncts my 2H Sun.

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posted December 17, 2014 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9zpnLBtwwg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh2LWWORoiM

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